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Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
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bakdraft21
Well-known member
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
looks like a nice pick up, didnt play in the best league but still impressive #'s,should help THE U with some Offense
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
That's a big pickup for the Pios. He probably won't replicate those numbers but think 15-20 goals wouldn't be out of the question...especially with Utica's cake OOC schedule.
That's a big pickup for the Pios. He probably won't replicate those numbers but think 15-20 goals wouldn't be out of the question...especially with Utica's cake OOC schedule.
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
Lou Educate is a good scorer with real quickness and an accurate shot. The question with him is his size, not his dogged determination or skill.
He hails from Lake Forest, Illinois. Playing for Nichols, and the league they are in, was more conducive to his wide-open style of play than playing in the more physical Midwestern D3 leagues. His development was greatly enhanced by playing with 2 seniors this past season. Prior to that he played 4 years of Junior hockey. Three of those seasons in what is now known as the NA3HL, and his final year with, I believe, 3 different teams in the NAHL. He scores a good portion of his points on the PP, but he is always in an aggressive offensive mode when on the ice. He thrives with space.
I think LE will be a good addition to the Utica team. However, he'll be hard pressed to match those same numbers at Utica. I also feel it would be unfair to expect that same level of production from him during his first tour with Utica. I wish LE the best of luck with his new team.
Lou Educate is a good scorer with real quickness and an accurate shot. The question with him is his size, not his dogged determination or skill.
He hails from Lake Forest, Illinois. Playing for Nichols, and the league they are in, was more conducive to his wide-open style of play than playing in the more physical Midwestern D3 leagues. His development was greatly enhanced by playing with 2 seniors this past season. Prior to that he played 4 years of Junior hockey. Three of those seasons in what is now known as the NA3HL, and his final year with, I believe, 3 different teams in the NAHL. He scores a good portion of his points on the PP, but he is always in an aggressive offensive mode when on the ice. He thrives with space.
I think LE will be a good addition to the Utica team. However, he'll be hard pressed to match those same numbers at Utica. I also feel it would be unfair to expect that same level of production from him during his first tour with Utica. I wish LE the best of luck with his new team.
ilikehockey
New member
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
is Utica's schedule posted yet ?
is Utica's schedule posted yet ?
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
Interesting situation because you don't see many star players on one D3 team transferring to another D3. Usually it is the guys who are not receiving a lot of playing time transferring out. But I do remember a player from Salem transferring to Oswego when Salem droped out of the ECAC E. The only D3 player I can remember coming into Norwich recently was a player from the college in North Adams, MA when that school ended its hockey program.
Others might remember but I can not recall teams like Middlebury, Plattsburgh, or Norwich picking up many D3 players from other teams over the years.
Interesting situation because you don't see many star players on one D3 team transferring to another D3. Usually it is the guys who are not receiving a lot of playing time transferring out. But I do remember a player from Salem transferring to Oswego when Salem droped out of the ECAC E. The only D3 player I can remember coming into Norwich recently was a player from the college in North Adams, MA when that school ended its hockey program.
Others might remember but I can not recall teams like Middlebury, Plattsburgh, or Norwich picking up many D3 players from other teams over the years.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
I believe Cote was the name of the MCLA kid that transferred to Norwich.
Kevin Huinnik and Justin Fox both transfered from Salem to Oswego.
Just a season or two ago one of Finlandia's leading scorers transferred to Plattsburgh. I'm not sure he dressed for a single game, and eventually transferred out. That move seemed odd to be, but can't blame the guy for wanting to give it a go with a bigtime program.
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
Last Spring Lake Forest's leading scorer, Bushbacher, transferred to Lawrence. This past season he was LU's #3 scorer. I bring this up because of the irony that Bushbacher and Educate played for the same club youth hockey team when they were Midgets. Both have played for many years on Illinois' Northshore hockey scene.
Both players made a move that was an upgrade.
Last Spring Lake Forest's leading scorer, Bushbacher, transferred to Lawrence. This past season he was LU's #3 scorer. I bring this up because of the irony that Bushbacher and Educate played for the same club youth hockey team when they were Midgets. Both have played for many years on Illinois' Northshore hockey scene.
Both players made a move that was an upgrade.
Pioneers#1
Just call me Pio#1....
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
Not yet. I've checked UCpioneers.com, USCHO.com, D3hockey.com and UticaAud.com..... I do not believe its posted yet. But I would love to know when it will be since half the teams they're playing have released theres.
Not yet. I've checked UCpioneers.com, USCHO.com, D3hockey.com and UticaAud.com..... I do not believe its posted yet. But I would love to know when it will be since half the teams they're playing have released theres.
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
I'll talk to who i need to talk to and let you guys know at the very least who our nonconference opponents will be.
I have the following three NC opponents confirmed right now:
Oswego(twice)
Morrisville
Fredonia
The latter two will be our opening weekend.
As for Lou, i certainly think he can add some scoring punch to the lineup. But how much remains to be seen. His goal production will likely take a hit, and that's going to come with the territory of having a better crew around you (and i mean, look at Coffman between his sophomore and junior years if you'd like to see an example) , plus a far more difficult schedule than he faced at Nichols. If he's willing to take one for the team and fit the system, I feel he's going to be a quality addition. I say he scores 15-16. Maybe more. Maybe less.
The good news is that 27 goals is certainly the mark of an excellent finisher, and that's something Utica desperately needs right now, particularly with Coffman's departure. As a team, that is certainly going to get better with Chlanda returning and Hertz having his right hand man Adam Graff back to set him up. But nonetheless, the more options you have to finish off the play, the better your chances of winning the game and Lou could be a tremendous asset in that department.
My only other concern is possibly discipline. Taking a look under the hood at his player page on USCHO, i've counted four game misconducts last year. That's something that hopefully gets better with age. Or a coach can only hope so.
However, one question for anyone who might know: How is this kid's skill set on the powerplay? He had 5 extra--manners last year.
Not yet. I've checked UCpioneers.com, USCHO.com, D3hockey.com and UticaAud.com..... I do not believe its posted yet. But I would love to know when it will be since half the teams they're playing have released theres.
I'll talk to who i need to talk to and let you guys know at the very least who our nonconference opponents will be.
I have the following three NC opponents confirmed right now:
Oswego(twice)
Morrisville
Fredonia
The latter two will be our opening weekend.
As for Lou, i certainly think he can add some scoring punch to the lineup. But how much remains to be seen. His goal production will likely take a hit, and that's going to come with the territory of having a better crew around you (and i mean, look at Coffman between his sophomore and junior years if you'd like to see an example) , plus a far more difficult schedule than he faced at Nichols. If he's willing to take one for the team and fit the system, I feel he's going to be a quality addition. I say he scores 15-16. Maybe more. Maybe less.
The good news is that 27 goals is certainly the mark of an excellent finisher, and that's something Utica desperately needs right now, particularly with Coffman's departure. As a team, that is certainly going to get better with Chlanda returning and Hertz having his right hand man Adam Graff back to set him up. But nonetheless, the more options you have to finish off the play, the better your chances of winning the game and Lou could be a tremendous asset in that department.
My only other concern is possibly discipline. Taking a look under the hood at his player page on USCHO, i've counted four game misconducts last year. That's something that hopefully gets better with age. Or a coach can only hope so.
However, one question for anyone who might know: How is this kid's skill set on the powerplay? He had 5 extra--manners last year.
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norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
Ahh, Utica is known to be poachers, they stole Cody Adams from Plattsburgh 
Ahh, Utica is known to be poachers, they stole Cody Adams from Plattsburgh
Pioneers#1
Just call me Pio#1....
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
You guys can have him back ...He's like Hagrid from Harry Potter. He's huge and looks intimidating but doesn't do much in the way of production and is scared to hit half the time.
Ahh, Utica is known to be poachers, they stole Cody Adams from Plattsburgh
You guys can have him back
...He's like Hagrid from Harry Potter. He's huge and looks intimidating but doesn't do much in the way of production and is scared to hit half the time.Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
Jason Wilson transferred from Cortland to NU in the mid 00's
Jason Wilson transferred from Cortland to NU in the mid 00's
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
Potter
Wasn't he a crampy goalie poached by Oswego?
You guys can have him back
Potter
Wasn't he a crampy goalie poached by Oswego?Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
He wasn't poached, he no longer fit into Clarkson's plans and the St.Lawrence/Lake Ontario railroad was still open. I just checked and there now appears to be an extension to the Rochester area.Potter
norm1909
Larry Normandin
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
With the D3 transferring talk can someone in the know tell me why more D1 players don't transfer to D3 when they see there status will be 4th line or reserve say after the first or second year. I have been told most of the less highly recruited players only get a small financial package which a D3 school could match. You would think most good players would like an opportunity to show what they can do on the ice where in D1 they may not get playing time for a variety of reasons. When I go to a D1 game at UVM you always see a 8 or 10 guys in suits just standing around.
Just look at a goalie that was going to Norwich a few years ago that changed his mind and went to Clarkson at the last minute. From what I can gather he didn't play much there so a D3 career might of been a better alternative. In the last year both NEC and Plattsburgh picked very good D1 goaltenders.
With the D3 transferring talk can someone in the know tell me why more D1 players don't transfer to D3 when they see there status will be 4th line or reserve say after the first or second year. I have been told most of the less highly recruited players only get a small financial package which a D3 school could match. You would think most good players would like an opportunity to show what they can do on the ice where in D1 they may not get playing time for a variety of reasons. When I go to a D1 game at UVM you always see a 8 or 10 guys in suits just standing around.
Just look at a goalie that was going to Norwich a few years ago that changed his mind and went to Clarkson at the last minute. From what I can gather he didn't play much there so a D3 career might of been a better alternative. In the last year both NEC and Plattsburgh picked very good D1 goaltenders.
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
I agree. You'd think they'd rather be an impact player at the D3 level than in a suit at the D1 level. But, these are still just young guys and I think most dream of playing at the highest level. I also think that is a factor in my belief that the average age of a D3 player is actually older than that of a D1 player. I think there are more players at the D3 level who have exhausted all of their Junior eligibility in hope of landing on a D1 roster, while at the D1 level there are a number of kids every year making the jump directly from the USNTDP, Minnesota high school hockey, or US prep schools. The true blue-chippers are able to play at the D1 level at 18 or 19.
Many D3 teams have got 8-10 guys in the stands in suits every night too. You could ask them the same question in their decision to pursue playing at the D3 level rather than going somewhere to play Club hockey and perhaps seeing lots more game time.
I agree. You'd think they'd rather be an impact player at the D3 level than in a suit at the D1 level. But, these are still just young guys and I think most dream of playing at the highest level. I also think that is a factor in my belief that the average age of a D3 player is actually older than that of a D1 player. I think there are more players at the D3 level who have exhausted all of their Junior eligibility in hope of landing on a D1 roster, while at the D1 level there are a number of kids every year making the jump directly from the USNTDP, Minnesota high school hockey, or US prep schools. The true blue-chippers are able to play at the D1 level at 18 or 19.
Many D3 teams have got 8-10 guys in the stands in suits every night too. You could ask them the same question in their decision to pursue playing at the D3 level rather than going somewhere to play Club hockey and perhaps seeing lots more game time.
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bakdraft21
Well-known member
Re: Nichols College Lou Educate Transferring
Some of the guys who drop down to D3 dont do nearly as well as they and others expected ..its all a crap shoot