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Nice Planet XII: It's Cruel to be Kind!

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That airport is usually so crowded it must have been a slaughter, even without a large explosive, though the recent turndown in tourism might have saved many lives. For a metro area of around 20 million, it's an extraordinarily beautiful, peaceful place--just awful. The followup tragedy to this will be Erdogan's response: more authoritarian measures.
 
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Active shooter at 15th and Wynkoop in Denver. Details still coming in.

Building is known to house several left-leaning nonprofit groups.

ETA: Area secure. Can't confirm if shooter apprehended.

ETA 2: Suspect is dead. Murder-suicide.
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How many did the SOB kill before taking the easy way out?
 
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joecct said:
How many did the SOB kill before taking the easy way out?
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Looks like just the one, and it was targeted.

ETA: She's still alive, but in critical condition.
 
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An entire state of morons.

Texas doesn't require parents who home-school their children to register with state authorities. While families must meet "basic educational goals" in reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics and citizenship, they don't have to give standardized testing or otherwise prove student progress is made.

Problems for Laura and Michael McIntyre, who once educated their nine children in an empty office at the family's motorcycle dealership in El Paso, arose after an uncle told the school district that he never saw the children do much of anything educational. According to court filings, he also overheard of the children tell a cousin "they did not need to do schoolwork because they were going to be raptured,"
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An entire state of morons.
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I think that term is a bit harsh. I'm a product of formal education, including a college undergrad degree and beyond, so I am in favor of everyone getting the best education possible.

But my experience has also taught me there are people with advanced degrees who lack even the most basic common sense, while people with nothing more than a grade school education achieve success far greater than I could ever hope for.
 
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unofan said:
If you read the Washington Post story I posted a few posts back, some NASA engineers invented just such an alarm after this happened to one of them.

It didn't sell because most people think they could never do this and because of liability concerns (if you have the alarm but it doesn't work, you could get sued).
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I've read of some pretty simple hacks to remember the kid in the back. Too lazy to run it through the Google machine. There was a simple one invented by a kid that involved a strap that you unbuckled when putting Junior into his seat and then buckled somewhere in the front(?) thereby blocking/reminding you when you stop the car. Memory is fuzzy, but there are some reasonably simple solutions.

I made the mistake of trying to park my car in a city garage with the bike on a roof rack. The guy I wanted to strangle was the bicyclist who found it hilarious as he rode by. I was hoping he'd ride straight into a fire hydrant. Bashed up the fork, did some damage to the rack, but luckily didn't peel the roof off the car.
 
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SJHovey said:
I think that term is a bit harsh. I'm a product of formal education, including a college undergrad degree and beyond, so I am in favor of everyone getting the best education possible.

But my experience has also taught me there are people with advanced degrees who lack even the most basic common sense, while people with nothing more than a grade school education achieve success far greater than I could ever hope for.
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The main thrust of the story is that the kids aren't getting any education at all, home or away, and the Texas Supreme Court is OK with that.

People at my work homeschool their kids and while I don't share their reasons (Jesus plus fear of darkies) I can see that at least some of them get a decent education in some subjects. But without standards it might as well be the 19th century and the kids are working the farm.
 
Kepler said:
The main thrust of the story is that the kids aren't getting any education at all, home or away, and the Texas Supreme Court is OK with that.

People at my work homeschool their kids and while I don't share their reasons (Jesus plus fear of darkies) I can see that at least some of them get a decent education in some subjects. But without standards it might as well be the 19th century and the kids are working the farm.
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I was homeschooled from 7th-10th grade. For the first year or so, my mom kept up with it. However, for the second half of that frame, mom got a job outside the home. This meant I was alone for those 2 years, and nothing got done.

When I was reintroduced to public education in 11th grade, I found myself in over my head rather quickly, especially in math.
 
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SJHovey said:
I think that term is a bit harsh. I'm a product of formal education, including a college undergrad degree and beyond, so I am in favor of everyone getting the best education possible.

But my experience has also taught me there are people with advanced degrees who lack even the most basic common sense, while people with nothing more than a grade school education achieve success far greater than I could ever hope for.
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How did you come up with this post based on what Kepler posted and the article?
 
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Handyman said:
How did you come up with this post based on what Kepler posted and the article?
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I think "morons" is a particularly harsh term to use, whether you are describing the kids themselves who aren't getting an education (which I don't think Kep was doing) or the people (i.e., parents?) who are facilitating that. Just because someone chooses to home school their children and then does a terrible job at it doesn't justify painting them with the brush of being a "moron."
 
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Just because someone chooses to home school their children and then does a terrible job at it doesn't justify painting them with the brush of being a "moron."
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See, that strikes me as a great reason to call them morons. The government is required to provide their kids an education, and they willfully choose to not educate their kids. If that's not moronic, what is?
 
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See, that strikes me as a great reason to call them morons. The government is required to provide their kids an education, and they willfully choose to not educate their kids. If that's not moronic, what is?
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Hey! My kid is going Division 1 in (name your sport)!
 
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joecct said:
Hey! My kid is going Division 1 in (name your sport)!
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If by that your are implying that we ignore the education side for students who excel at sports, I have to say, Joecct, that a large percentage of the kids I know who excel in sports at the high school level also excel on the academic side. Admittedly small town middle America, though, and obviously not a true sample size.
 
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If by that your are implying that we ignore the education side for students who excel at sports, I have to say, Joecct, that a large percentage of the kids I know who excel in sports at the high school level also excel on the academic side. Admittedly small town middle America, though, and obviously not a true sample size.
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I was being cynical. Parents who redshirt their kid in middle school, parents who transfer their kid to 4 schools in 4 years of HS to get on the best team, parents who ship their child half way across the country to play for a diploma mill "high school".

Those parents.
 
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This is awful but thank god she's white.

A disabled woman was beaten bloody by federal agents during an airport security screening while on her way to undergo treatment for a brain tumor.

Hannah Cohen set off the metal detector at a security checkpoint at the Memphis International Airport, and she was led away for additional screening, reported WREG-TV.

“They wanted to do further scanning, (but) she was reluctant — she didn’t understand what they were about to do,” said her mother, Shirley Cohen.

Cohen said she tried to tell agents with the Transportation Security Administration that her 19-year-old daughter is partially deaf, blind in one eye, paralyzed and easily confused — but she said police kept her away from the security agents.

The confused and terrified young woman tried to run away, her mother said, and agents violently took her to the ground.

“She’s trying to get away from them, but in the next instant, one of them had her down on the ground and hit her head on the floor,” Cohen said. “There was blood everywhere.”

The young woman, who was returning home after finishing treatment for the brain tumor at St. Jude Hospital, was arrested and booked into jail.
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The TSA's response?

Neither police department commented on the suit, but a spokesperson for the TSA said passengers should notify agents ahead of time if they have special needs.

“Passengers can call ahead of time to learn more about the screening process for their particular needs or medical situation,” said TSA spokesperson Sari Koshetz.
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F-ck you, you f-cking f-ckers.
 
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