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Nice Planet, Part 2: A-holes on parade

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It drives me crazy when someone perceives an inequality between two groups and instead of working to raise the worse-off group, they fight to lower the better-off group. It makes no sense!! If the poor kids are at a disadvantage - IF - then work to find the resources to get them the help they need.
 
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UncleRay said:
It drives me crazy when someone perceives an inequality between two groups and instead of working to raise the worse-off group, they fight to lower the better-off group. It makes no sense!! If the poor kids are at a disadvantage - IF - then work to find the resources to get them the help they need.
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It just confirms the laziness... it's much easier to fall than it is to climb.
 
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UncleRay said:
It drives me crazy when someone perceives an inequality between two groups and instead of working to raise the worse-off group, they fight to lower the better-off group. It makes no sense!! If the poor kids are at a disadvantage - IF - then work to find the resources to get them the help they need.
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Problem being: getting resources to the disadvantaged is always going to be fought tooth and nail by people who view that as inherently lowering the better-off.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
So, how exactly would Nicole Brown Simpson be alive today if we didn't have guns??
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And also: Would Belcher's girlfriend perhaps be alive today had she owned and possessed a gun? Realistically, the only way a small woman like that would have a chance to defend herself against a raving psycho three times her size would be to put a bullet between his eyes.

I also think Costas was pretty much told to say what he said. Let's not forget the network he works for, after all.
 
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johnnypohlfan said:
And also: Would Belcher's girlfriend perhaps be alive today had she owned and possessed a gun? Realistically, the only way a small woman like that would have a chance to defend herself against a raving psycho three times her size would be to put a bullet between his eyes.

I also think Costas was pretty much told to say what he said. Let's not forget the network he works for, after all.
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"Guns, bottles, fists, knives, clubs - all the same to me. All the same to you?" Kid Shelleen (Cat Ballou)
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
HS Football Coach fired for making players do up downs when late to practice

They should be so lucky. When I was in HS, if we were late to football practice, up downs would have been preferred to a Big Three (720 yards of running, crab, and bear crawl). God forbid kids be expected to show up to practice on time...
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Where I went to school didn't have a football team, but I did hear about "Seton Reminders", which is where you run up and down the field, and at each coach's whistle switch between that and push-ups wherever you are on the field. I think being late to practice was somewhere between 10 and 20. I believe it was also one for each penalty yard you incurred during a game.
 
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Guy fell onto subway tracks? You could run down and try to help, or you could just snap pictures of him...

And given it was a train about to stop to pick up passengers, why didn't the guy just run down the tracks a bit, make sure the driver knew he was there, and then bring NYPD in to help him out?
 
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It had never occurred to me to run down the tracks. But you might have something there, depending on how far down the platform you are.
 
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UncleRay said:
It had never occurred to me to run down the tracks. But you might have something there, depending on how far down the platform you are.
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Seriously, it didn't?!

Given the subway car slows when it comes to the station, you have a better chance at getting out of the way. Plus, it's too expensive to make a bunch of one-track tunnels; you might be able to go further and hop into a partition until you can get help. Granted, if you're the only one at the station, you're kind of screwed, but given in this situation you weren't...

Of course, it's easy for me to think of this; I'm not about to be impaled by an oncoming train.

Actually, looking at the picture again, there is a partition on the inside. Just hop in there until police arrive to help you.
 
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No, it never occurred to me to try to outrun a train. Get back on the platform or lie down low enough that the undercarriage passes over me (difficult with a train since they ride so low, but possible with a big scary truck). But not outrunning it. But like I said, it just might work.

I'm continually amazed at how different people attack a problem in different ways, from different angles, producing different solutions.
 
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The Whittier tunnel (one-lane shared car/train tunnel) here in AK has safe rooms every half mile or so, complete with beds, radios, food supplies, etc. If there's a disaster of some kind they can stop traffic and evacuate people to the safe rooms until help arrives. (Then again, there's also a foot path.)
 
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UncleRay said:
No, it never occurred to me to try to outrun a train. Get back on the platform or lie down low enough that the undercarriage passes over me (difficult with a train since they ride so low, but possible with a big scary truck). But not outrunning it. But like I said, it just might work.

I'm continually amazed at how different people attack a problem in different ways, from different angles, producing different solutions.
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Considering the platform is 3'9" from the rail (based upon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_platform_height#United_States ), it doesn't seem logical to me to get back onto the platform. The partition looks to be not more than 8-10 inches high from the rail, although you'd have to be careful because it looks to not be very wide, but it's a lifeline, and there should be enough time to stop other trains so you don't get something like from the movie "The Jackal" where the dude gets caught between two trains going in opposite directions (sorry but I can't easily find a Youtube clip).

On the other hand a subway car is about 50-75 feet in length, I'd estimate about 6-8 "cars" per train, which would give an average length estimate of about 500 feet. He was far enough along that you could get away with it, but I wouldn't depend on outrunning the train. Perhaps the best move was to slip into the partition between the two trains and wait for help over there.
 
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Seriously, it didn't?!

Given the subway car slows when it comes to the station, you have a better chance at getting out of the way. Plus, it's too expensive to make a bunch of one-track tunnels; you might be able to go further and hop into a partition until you can get help. Granted, if you're the only one at the station, you're kind of screwed, but given in this situation you weren't...

Of course, it's easy for me to think of this; I'm not about to be impaled by an oncoming train.

Actually, looking at the picture again, there is a partition on the inside. Just hop in there until police arrive to help you.
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Ehhhhh, they might slow down some, but they are still going much faster than somebody sprinting until at least halfway down the platform.

I would tend to agree that the partition between tracks (if possible) might be the best case depending on how the station tracks are laid out.
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
Ehhhhh, they might slow down some, but they are still going much faster than somebody sprinting until at least halfway down the platform.

I would tend to agree that the partition between tracks (if possible) might be the best case depending on how the station tracks are laid out.
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The last time I was in the subway in NYC, the partition was typically to separate the local and express lanes, as well as opposite directions. DC, IIRC, has no partition, so just like "The Jackal", you're pretty much screwed unless you can hang onto a signpost and squeeze yourself between the trains. It doesn't look all that wide (maybe a foot), but it's a better chance than trying to go under the train (and I think the middle of the track is electrified IIRC).
 
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