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Nice Planet 6: Get Me Off This Planet.

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Jimjamesak said:
On campus offenses. I know this very well as I was suspended for being drunk at dance one year (along with about 20+ other kids) and I know two people who got expelled for a year after a second offense.

I looked it up, seems they changed it slightly from my day to not having automatic expulsion for the second offense if it occurs after 3 years. In my day *shakes cane* it didn't matter if you had in offense in Middle School and then got one your senior year of High School, automatic expulsion.

The full text is here on page 25.
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Class reunions for good old Draconian High must be a blast. :)
 
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Old Pio said:
"Cookie lady" has been doling out treats to kids on the school bus in her neighborhood for 15 years. One anonymous complaint, and the school tells her she has to stop. Makes sense to me

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I'm going to guess it was a parent with a child who has allergies to something common in cookies (gluten or something...who knows). Like the lady says, if people would take the time to get to know their neighbors this could be avoided. Parent could have said, hey, I like what you do but my kid can't have them because of allergy to X. Guarantee that the "cookie lady" would have went out of her way to make a cookie the kid could have. I don't blame the school. Their hands are tied there and they have to protect themselves from any potential legal issues that could arise. Again I blame the parent who can't take the time to get to know "cookie lady."

On a side note as a cookie fanatic (I'll take cookies over almost any other dessert any day), I would have loved this as a kid (if I ever rode the bus...haha)
 
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Proud2baLaker said:
I'm going to guess it was a parent with a child who has allergies to something common in cookies (gluten or something...who knows). Like the lady says, if people would take the time to get to know their neighbors this could be avoided. Parent could have said, hey, I like what you do but my kid can't have them because of allergy to X. Guarantee that the "cookie lady" would have went out of her way to make a cookie the kid could have. I don't blame the school. Their hands are tied there and they have to protect themselves from any potential legal issues that could arise. Again I blame the parent who can't take the time to get to know "cookie lady."

On a side note as a cookie fanatic (I'll take cookies over almost any other dessert any day), I would have loved this as a kid (if I ever rode the bus...haha)
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An over protective parent who wants her "delicate little snowflake" to be absolutely protected from any possible negative outcome? Or a school administration so cowed by possible legal ramifications that they've jettisoned common sense? Either way, as Dick Deadeye says: "It's a queer world."
 
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Old Pio said:
An over protective parent who wants her "delicate little snowflake" to be absolutely protected from any possible negative outcome? Or a school administration so cowed by possible legal ramifications that they've jettisoned common sense? Either way, as Dick Deadeye says: "It's a queer world."
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Schools have gone overboard with this... One of my kids is in a "nut free" classroom... Now I feel for the kid with the allergies, but the schools policy is to not allow anything in the lunches that is not pre-packaged with a label that shows it is but free and has not been produced in a facility that also does nut products. So that eliminates things like making a ham sandwich because everything has been taken out of its packaging and reassembled prior to arriving at the classroom.
 
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ericredaxe said:
Schools have gone overboard with this... One of my kids is in a "nut free" classroom... Now I feel for the kid with the allergies, but the schools policy is to not allow anything in the lunches that is not pre-packaged with a label that shows it is but free and has not been produced in a facility that also does nut products. So that eliminates things like making a ham sandwich because everything has been taken out of its packaging and reassembled prior to arriving at the classroom.
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Couple of years ago my high school (3200 students) announced that since an incoming freshman had a potentially fatal allergy to latex, that balloons were banished from the campus for the duration. Naturally, they had no control over any latex students may have been carrying in their wallets or purses. But this struck me as a gross over reaction, more out of a desire to avoid hurting the student's feelings than a medical requirement. Same thing with your kid's school. So in your kid's case the school had unilaterally increased the costs of providing him with a lunch. Not to mention limiting his choices. I've never had a premade sandwich that didn't taste like sh*t.

The philosophy of mainstreaming kids with problems is a good one, in the abstract. I recall several years ago there was a discussion about teachers being required to change medical appliances (catheters, etc) on students. Now it would certainly be nice if every teacher was willing to provide this service. But requiring it? As a condition of employment? And are there any limits? Diapers? Ostomy bags?
 
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Old Pio said:
The philosophy of mainstreaming kids with problems is a good one, in the abstract. I recall several years ago there was a discussion about teachers being required to change medical appliances (catheters, etc) on students. Now it would certainly be nice if every teacher was willing to provide this service. But requiring it? As a condition of employment? And are there any limits? Diapers? Ostomy bags?
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I would have installed my own foley catheter if I could have gotten Miss Heibrieter to check it just once.
 
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ericredaxe said:
Schools have gone overboard with this... One of my kids is in a "nut free" classroom... Now I feel for the kid with the allergies, but the schools policy is to not allow anything in the lunches that is not pre-packaged with a label that shows it is but free and has not been produced in a facility that also does nut products. So that eliminates things like making a ham sandwich because everything has been taken out of its packaging and reassembled prior to arriving at the classroom.
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If I were a parent of the kid with allergies this is the last thing I'd want. The world isn't going "nut free" so the earlier the kid learns, and takes responsibility for his or her own protection, the better off (and safer) the kid will be.
 
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ericredaxe said:
Schools have gone overboard with this... One of my kids is in a "nut free" classroom... Now I feel for the kid with the allergies, but the schools policy is to not allow anything in the lunches that is not pre-packaged with a label that shows it is but free and has not been produced in a facility that also does nut products. So that eliminates things like making a ham sandwich because everything has been taken out of its packaging and reassembled prior to arriving at the classroom.
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So if you send your kid to school with a Ziploc baggie of carrot and celery sticks, he would get in trouble because you can only be 99.99924% sure that the veggies didn't come within a mile of a peanut :confused:

I'd be screaming to high heaven... If the school wants to make a deal out of it, I'd claim financial difficulty since most of the time it's cheaper to make something yourself than to buy it prepackaged...
 
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RaceBoarder said:
So if you send your kid to school with a Ziploc baggie of carrot and celery sticks, he would get in trouble because you can only be 99.99924% sure that the veggies didn't come within a mile of a peanut :confused:

I'd be screaming to high heaven... If the school wants to make a deal out of it, I'd claim financial difficulty since most of the time it's cheaper to make something yourself than to buy it prepackaged...
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Thankfully, fresh fruit and veggies do not apply to this rule. A ziploc baggie of something like "cheeze-its" or goldfish crackers are out however... you have to buy the pre-packaged small portions, at a higher price point of course.

I also do understand the nut allergies... but the "rules" could be more sensible.. like please dont bring peanut butter sandwiches or products with nuts etc. I think it is just too far...
 
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SJHovey said:
If I were a parent of the kid with allergies this is the last thing I'd want. The world isn't going "nut free" so the earlier the kid learns, and takes responsibility for his or her own protection, the better off (and safer) the kid will be.
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I doubt it is driven by the parents or kids... It's all about the school most likely following the advice of thier lawyers. Of course taking all possible liability off of the school.... And of course taking away a bit of common sense.
 
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ericredaxe said:
I doubt it is driven by the parents or kids... It's all about the school most likely following the advice of thier lawyers. Of course taking all possible liability off of the school.... And of course taking away a bit of common sense.
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All it took was one anonymous complaint. One. Is that any way to run a railroad? BTW, one anonymous complaint is generally how the various pedophile show trials of the 90s started. This whole country is "lawyered up," and that's not a good thing, IMO.
 
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