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Nice Planet 5: Insert Catchy Title Here

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LynahFan said:
Isn't that exactly what they're trying to do? Get new legislation enacted that would reverse/alter prior legislation? There's nothing sacred about existing laws - the legislature can change them (within constitutional limits and subject to executive endorsement) whenever they want.

Of course, the particular tactics the TP Repubs are using are deplorable and the end in no way justifies their means, but that is exactly the "end" they're going for.
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Sure its what they're trying to do. Then again, I can try to knock a brick wall over with my mind, but it's not going to happen. Maybe it's a better idea to try something else that might actually work.

The practice of tacking on a bull**** piece of legislation (that never has a chance of passing on it's own) in order to kill bills that ought to be passed on their own is tiresome, childish and stupid. Both parties have been doing a variation of that practice for ages, usually for pork barrel spending on pet projects, and that's tiresome enough when the consequence is "merely" the corrupt funneling of wasted taxpayer dollars into the pork barrel. But to sit back and decide that you're just going to not do your job at all because of it? What a load of crap.

In my book, it's about as ridiculous as that one scene in the episode of The Simpsons where Bart discovers a comet that's going to hit Springfield:

Kent: With our utter annihilation imminent, our federal government has snapped into action. We go live now via satellite to the floor of the United States congress.

Speaker: Then it is unanimous, we are going to approve the bill to evacuate the town of Springfield in the great state of --

Congressman: Wait a minute, I want to tack on a rider to that bill: $30 million of taxpayer money to support the perverted arts.

Speaker: All in favor of the amended Springfield-slash-pervert bill?

[everyone boos]

Speaker: Bill defeated.

[bangs gavel]

Kent: I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply doesn't work.
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burd said:
Who all gets to be part of this chamber? Goldwater himself would be left wing compared to the 30 or so Pioist teatards currently holding Boehner's jewels.
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I hadn't realized 'till this moment the depth of obsession about me by the ladies of the chorale. I'm deeply moved.
 
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Several pro-gun groups want to have a "Guns Save Lives Day", presumably to celebrate how useful guns can be for saving lives. You know, like that one time when I had a gunshot wound and I shot a bullet into my mound to stop the bleeding.

The only problem? Well, let's just say that the PR geniuses behind the idea might be a little uncouth...

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/10/5810555/groups-jointly-sponsor-guns-save.html

The Second Amendment Foundation, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, and DefendGunRights.com announced today they will join together with other groups to sponsor Guns Save Lives Day on Dec. 14, the anniversary of the tragic Newtown, Conn., shootings "because crazy people, criminals and gun control extremists prefer unarmed victims."
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What a mature, reasonable group of people. *sigh*

The most hilarious part:

"No one at Newtown should have been a victim," Gottlieb said, "and no one in the future should be victimized by laws that do not allow people to defend themselves."
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I'm trying to picture the thinking behind the idea that those schoolchildren should've been armed to defend themselves.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Several pro-gun groups want to have a "Guns Save Lives Day", presumably to celebrate how useful guns can be for saving lives. You know, like that one time when I had a gunshot wound and I shot a bullet into my mound to stop the bleeding.

The only problem? Well, let's just say that the PR geniuses behind the idea might be a little uncouth...

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/10/5810555/groups-jointly-sponsor-guns-save.html



What a mature, reasonable group of people. *sigh*

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I'm trying to picture the thinking behind the idea that those schoolchildren should've been armed to defend themselves.
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Or their teachers. This magical thinking is fairly common among certain people. While the possibility exists that these extremely rare shooting events might turn out better if bystanders were armed, these folks resolutely refuse to consider these events might instead turn out worse if bystanders were armed. If a pretty young co-ed is shot dead at Virginia Tech by some student aiming at Woo Tang Clan, is that a win?
 
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Old Pio said:
Or their teachers. This magical thinking is fairly common among certain people. While the possibility exists that these extremely rare shooting events might turn out better if bystanders were armed, these folks resolutely refuse to consider these events might instead turn out worse if bystanders were armed. If a pretty young co-ed is shot dead at Virginia Tech by some student aiming at Woo Tang Clan, is that a win?
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I'm with you on that one. It's a lot to ask of a properly trained person, much less your average teacher (lest we forget what some people think of the mental capacity of your average teacher).
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
I'm with you on that one. It's a lot to ask of a properly trained person, much less your average teacher (lest we forget what some people think of the mental capacity of your average teacher).
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I mean, a good outcome is possible. But you read occasionally about cops shooting the wrong person or each other. Remember that Luby's cafeteria deal from years ago where a guy literally drove his pickup into the restaurant and began shooting? Lots of folks at the time (it was in Texas, after all) said it was a d*mn shame there weren't armed customers in there to take the guy out. And I would have cheered if there had been. But what if my mother was in there enjoying her senior citizens special and took one in the face fired by a citizen? Is that a win? The folks who advance this notion of armed citizens taking out bad guys never consider or even mention the possible down side.
 
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ShirtlessBob said:
Attempted murder charges after 911 caller sees man chasing woman covered in blood

And if that wasn't enough, the suspect injured himself by slamming his head repeatedly against the plexiglass in the cop car.
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You know, if I were a cop on that case and that pos began slamming his head against the divider, I might think it would be a good time to go get a cup of coffee. Let him do the job good and proper, with no interference. And I love the language. This a*shole is "lodged" in the county jail. Really? Did he get upgraded to a suite?
 
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Old Pio said:
I mean, a good outcome is possible. But you read occasionally about cops shooting the wrong person or each other. Remember that Luby's cafeteria deal from years ago where a guy literally drove his pickup into the restaurant and began shooting? Lots of folks at the time (it was in Texas, after all) said it was a d*mn shame there weren't armed customers in there to take the guy out. And I would have cheered if there had been. But what if my mother was in there enjoying her senior citizens special and took one in the face fired by a citizen? Is that a win? The folks who advance this notion of armed citizens taking out bad guys never consider or even mention the possible down side.
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True, and I agree, though I'm sure some will argue that that risk is more than offset by the deterrence factor--that fewer risky situations will arise if shooters think the vics are armed. I'm just not convinced random killers think that way, but there have probably been studies of some kind.
 
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