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Nice Planet 5: Insert Catchy Title Here

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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
...until the Senate joins the House in wanting to undo the law (and gets the President to sign off on it...
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Isn't that exactly what they're trying to do? Get new legislation enacted that would reverse/alter prior legislation? There's nothing sacred about existing laws - the legislature can change them (within constitutional limits and subject to executive endorsement) whenever they want.

Of course, the particular tactics the TP Repubs are using are deplorable and the end in no way justifies their means, but that is exactly the "end" they're going for.
 
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Twitch Boy said:
http://engineeringevil.com/2013/10/...y-for-streaking-at-high-school-football-game/

Sad story all around. 15 year old kid goes streaking at a football game. Administration threatens him with expulsion and being put on the sex offender registry. Kid goes home and kills himself.
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How sad. Seems like they went after the kid harder than they needed to. But this is generally the pattern with school officials these days, isn't it? A couple of kids "streaked" (wearing speedos) at a game involving my high school a couple of weeks ago. Officials did a lot of blustering and threatening (which I kind of understand). Don't know how it turned out, but there is the little problem their attire was the same as they'd wear during a swim meet.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
An agreement on what, exactly? De-funding or otherwise crippling the Affordable Health Care Act? Has it not occurred to some of you folk that the Affordable Health Care Act is law, voted on by the legislature, signed by the executive and upheld by the judiciary? The government is not honor-bound to alter it just because the majority of one house wants it gone.

Unless the Supreme Court undoes it's decision on the matter or until the Senate joins the House in wanting to undo the law (and gets the President to sign off on it), it's law and it's not changing. So to refuse to pass any other legislation unless everyone else agrees to change course is just ridiculous.
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Has it not occurred to you that the Second Amendment and prohibition of marijuana are also law, voted on by the legislature, signed by the executive and upheld by the judiciary? The government is not honor-bound to alter those either just because specific states want them gone.

Unless the Supreme Court undoes it's [sic] decision on the matter or until the Senate joins the House in wanting to undo the law (and gets the President to sign off on it), it's law and it's not changing. So to refuse to acknowledge these through state legislation is just ridiculous.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
They can't.

They're unable to be objective on any level.

If right wing media doesn't spoon feed it to them, they won't admit it.

Any right wing media that tries gets labeled a rhino.


I have these people in my personal life and every time I feel like this (fill in the blank) will be the thing that opens their eyes and at least makes them slightly objective, it never does. I've realized that it's because they don't actually hear about it due to where they're getting their information from.

Even if they do hear it in passing, they assume that it must be lies by the mainstream media - coz they've been conditioned that everything from the mainstream media is a lie.

To be honest, right wing media has done a great job of securing their demographic. Years and years of pounding them has paid off with viewers/listeners who just won't question... well, anything.

It's a product of living within the echo chamber. They're lost.
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He said. . .modestly. Must be tough to have to share the word with people who fall so far short of your lofty standards. Open minded. Non judgmental. Well informed. Caring. Yup, you're just about perfect.
 
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LynahFan said:
Isn't that exactly what they're trying to do? Get new legislation enacted that would reverse/alter prior legislation? There's nothing sacred about existing laws - the legislature can change them (within constitutional limits and subject to executive endorsement) whenever they want.

Of course, the particular tactics the TP Repubs are using are deplorable and the end in no way justifies their means, but that is exactly the "end" they're going for.
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Actually, what is being done is the balancing of a budget. Because the PPACA is a staunch contributor to the country's yearly deficit, the House is stating that because the country has an inability to pay for it, it will not spend that money.
 
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LynahFan said:
Isn't that exactly what they're trying to do? Get new legislation enacted that would reverse/alter prior legislation? There's nothing sacred about existing laws - the legislature can change them (within constitutional limits and subject to executive endorsement) whenever they want.

Of course, the particular tactics the TP Repubs are using are deplorable and the end in no way justifies their means, but that is exactly the "end" they're going for.
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Agree. What I find most irritating is the moronic spin from the WH (repeated here, verbatim endlessly) that somehow this business is unique and without precedent. It's politics. And politics ain't beanbag.
 
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Old Pio said:
Agree. What I find most irritating is the moronic spin from the WH (repeated here, verbatim endlessly) that somehow this business is unique and without precedent. It's politics. And politics ain't beanbag.
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It's the left wing's echo chamber. One of the voices echoing in there is that they are not in an echo chamber and everyone else is.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
It's the left wing's echo chamber. One of the voices echoing in there is that they are not in an echo chamber and everyone else is.
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No, no, no you've got it all wrong. It's not a left wing echo chamber. It's a community of like minded, open minded, wonderful, caring, informed, intelligent people.
 
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Old Pio said:
No, no, no you've got it all wrong. It's not a left wing echo chamber. It's a community of like minded, open minded, wonderful, caring, informed, intelligent people.
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You forgot that we're usually better looking and always more fun.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Has it not occurred to you that the Second Amendment and prohibition of marijuana are also law, voted on by the legislature, signed by the executive and upheld by the judiciary? The government is not honor-bound to alter those either just because specific states want them gone.

Unless the Supreme Court undoes it's [sic] decision on the matter or until the Senate joins the House in wanting to undo the law (and gets the President to sign off on it), it's law and it's not changing. So to refuse to acknowledge these through state legislation is just ridiculous.
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And you show us where the Dems are shutting down the government to repeal the 2nd amendment and I got your back.

No one is saying the House has no right to try and repeal the ACA, they have been trying (and failing) for months. To shut down the government to prove a point though is ridiculous. And dont give me this BS that is because they feel we cant fund it, the GOP hasnt been about fiscal responsibility in the new millenium and the TP is no better. They dont want to fund it because the Dems put it out there and they couldnt stop it, plain and simple.
 
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Old Pio said:
No, no, no you've got it all wrong. It's not a left wing echo chamber. It's a community of like minded, open minded, wonderful, caring, informed, intelligent people.
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Who all gets to be part of this chamber? Goldwater himself would be left wing compared to the 30 or so Pioist teatards currently holding Boehner's jewels.
 
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burd said:
Who all gets to be part of this chamber? Goldwater himself would be left wing compared to the 30 or so Pioist teatards currently holding Boehner's jewels.
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That should go over well :eek:
 
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burd said:
Who all gets to be part of this chamber? Goldwater himself would be left wing compared to the 30 or so Pioist teatards currently holding Boehner's jewels.
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Reagan and Bush I and II are so far left compared to the Pioist teatards you could call them libtards and not be offbase.
 
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burd said:
Who all gets to be part of this chamber? Goldwater himself would be left wing compared to the 30 or so Pioist teatards currently holding Boehner's jewels.
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Wonder where Pat Moynihan or Scoop Jackson would fall?
 
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