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Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The guy's a much better speaker than Hill. He is gonna get PAID. It would be nice to see him donate a lot of it - I'm sure he and Michelle will figure something out.
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OK, make it a provisional f-ck you until we see what he does.

God, it's an awful example for the utes, though. :mad:
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
It's just another example of how we never learn or progress as a species. The movie The Accused starring Jodie Foster came out in 1988. Yet, rape is still considered ok and women are still "asking" for it.
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They're not asking for it. I want to be clear on that. However, a woman probably shouldn't walk down a dark alley in a shady part of the city at 3am. Nor should I strut around South Side Chicago at 3am. I highly doubt good things would come of that. Best case scenario is that nothing happens.

Unfortunately, there are precautions that should be taken. Is it right? No. It is truth? Sadly, yes.
 
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Brenthoven said:
They're not asking for it. I want to be clear on that. However, a woman probably shouldn't walk down a dark alley in a shady part of the city at 3am. Nor should I strut around South Side Chicago at 3am. I highly doubt good things would come of that. Best case scenario is that nothing happens.

Unfortunately, there are precautions that should be taken. Is it right? No. It is truth? Sadly, yes.
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So he's warning that conservatives in Wyoming should be expected to act on the moral level of muggers and rapists.

Yeah. I can see that.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
It's just another example of how we never learn or progress as a species. The movie The Accused starring Jodie Foster came out in 1988. Yet, rape is still considered ok and women are still "asking" for it.
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We do learn and progress as a species. Fifty years ago 90% of the country would act like those "Real 'Muricans" at the bar. Today it's maybe 40%.

The apes are losing, that's why they're so scared.
 
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Kepler said:
We do learn and progress as a species. Fifty years ago 90% of the country would act like those "Real 'Muricans" at the bar. Today it's maybe 40%.

The apes are losing, that's why they're so scared.
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Really? How can anyone say that today about Islam. That world used to be the scientific epicenter of the World. And we're regressing in this country. We now have our worst President in our history. This a scant 8 years after what was our worst President in history.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Really? How can anyone say that today about Islam. That world used to be the scientific epicenter of the World. And we're regressing in this country. We now have our worst President in our history. This a scant 8 years after what was our worst President in history.
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At any given time, in some places we slip backwards. During some times even the net of the whole species slips backwards. But over long time intervals, the net of the species moves forward. Slowly we emerge from superstition to science, from violence to peaceful arbitration, from a reactionary mindset to a tolerant mindset.

The important thing to remember is it's not automatic or deterministic, it's dependent on individual people doing good things and stopping bad people. Sometimes civilizations forget this and then they collapse back into the chaotic violence of the primordial ape mind. But we're going to be OK unless an ape literally blows up the world.
 
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Kepler said:
At any given time, in some places we slip backwards. During some times even the net of the whole species slips backwards. But over long time intervals, the net of the species moves forward. Slowly we emerge from superstition to science, from violence to peaceful arbitration, from a reactionary mindset to a tolerant mindset.

The important thing to remember is it's not automatic or deterministic, it's dependent on individual people doing good things and stopping bad people. Sometimes civilizations forget this and then they collapse back into the chaotic violence of the primordial ape mind. But we're going to be OK unless an ape literally blows up the world.
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I think you are right, and it's an important thing to remember so that we do not let the oar slip from our hands.

A person does not have to be too old to remember times that lend a little perspective. 1968 may have been only one year removed from the Summer of Love, but the sense of hopelessness, anger, and despair coming out of that year was pretty overwhelming (or energizing, depending on how it affected you). Mired in a war in which 17,000 of our soldiers had died that year and which was already appearing as unwinnable as it was senseless, the assassinations of B. Kennedy and MLK, riots and bloodshed at the Democratic convention. We were only several years removed from the lynchings, beatings and riots that surrounded the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and we were living in a world that was even more fearful of nuclear holocaust than we are now.

These times are not those times, and it would be a false equivalency to say they are the same. But some good arose out of all that hate, violence, fear, and death (aside from great music), because a lot of good people kept pecking away at it.

Older posters could rightfully point out that there was a lot of hope and inspiration occupying that same place in time, and that is still a bit enigmatic to me. I was young and naive and full of hope, but looking back on it I wonder how some got through it.
 
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You Stay Classy US Customs and Border Patrol

As a musician, Mohammed Fairouz travels to other countries frequently.

Usually, there’s no problem.

But recently, after getting off an eight-hour flight from London, immigration officials at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York stopped him, Fairouz said. He was told to go into a room, where he stayed for several hours without knowing why he was there.

Fairouz, an American who was born in the United Arab Emirates, told The Washington Post that he was given no reason for his detention, other than his Muslim name.
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So glad we are giving these twats more power. Detaining an American Citizen because of his name...go F yourself.
 
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