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NHL 2016.2: An All-Canada Final (Playoffs and Off-season)

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We have a trade

The Canadiens acquire Jonathan Drouin + a cond. 6th-round pick (2018) from TBL, in return for M. Sergachev + a cond. 2nd-round pick (2018).
 
joecct said:
We have a trade

The Canadiens acquire Jonathan Drouin + a cond. 6th-round pick (2018) from TBL, in return for M. Sergachev + a cond. 2nd-round pick (2018).
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Tampa has to give up a good player to get the young defenseman they need. Also frees up an expansion slot (Drouin has to be protected) and they likely couldn't afford him. Probably a smart trade both ways, though it will be better for Montreal if Drouin can slide into a center role.
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
Tampa has to give up a good player to get the young defenseman they need. Also frees up an expansion slot (Drouin has to be protected) and they likely couldn't afford him. Probably a smart trade both ways, though it will be better for Montreal if Drouin can slide into a center role.
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I think you are right, the expansion draft played a role in this trade.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The better question is would I start my team with anyone currently playing for the Minnesota Wild? The answer would be no.
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There was a story I read, I think on NHL.com, in which Fletcher talked about the draft and the fact that Minnesota doesn't have a first or second round pick this year.

He said that statistics show that if you want to be an average NHL program you must draft two players who will play 100+ NHL games for you each draft. He described that as the "baseline" an NHL team needs to achieve just to be "average." He pointed out that statistic to emphasize the point of later round picks, since he says the Wild and other teams obviously try to get 3 or more players each draft who will play 100+ games for them, so they can be "above average."

So I was bored today and I decided to go back and look at the Wild draft record. In the 17 drafts thus far in their history, they have achieved the "average" of drafting two players who went on to play 100+ games for them six times, none since 2010 when Granlund and Zucker were drafted. Now, in fairness, some of the recent draft picks haven't really had a chance yet. But I don't see a lot of 100+ game NHL candidates out of '11 and '12 other than Brodin and Dumba, respectively.

The Wild drafted "above average" only twice, their first two drafts.

Jonas Brodin is #8 all time in games played for the Wild by a Wild draft pick.
 
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bucky15 said:
I think you are right, the expansion draft played a role in this trade.
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I think that was probably a secondary/third priority. Salary cap savings/future almost certainly first. I've seen long-term deal figures in the 5.5-6.5 AAV range for Drouin, and TBL have Johnson/Palat as major RFA signings this year, Kucherov on a bridge deal that will need to be PAID soon(ish). Obviously this frees up a protection slot for an arguable secondary priority, most mock's I've seen have Namestnikov or Killorn being plucked from TBL, which are both pretty useful guys. Stevie was able to get his very wanted young stud defenseman, who may be able to step in next season from what I've read.

Drouin has the potential to be an elite player for a long, long time... but I do think this was a smart hockey trade that both sides will be happy with for years to come.
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
I think that was probably a secondary/third priority. Salary cap savings/future almost certainly first. I've seen long-term deal figures in the 5.5-6.5 AAV range for Drouin, and TBL have Johnson/Palat as major RFA signings this year, Kucherov on a bridge deal that will need to be PAID soon(ish). Obviously this frees up a protection slot for an arguable secondary priority, most mock's I've seen have Namestnikov or Killorn being plucked from TBL, which are both pretty useful guys. Stevie was able to get his very wanted young stud defenseman, who may be able to step in next season from what I've read.

Drouin has the potential to be an elite player for a long, long time... but I do think this was a smart hockey trade that both sides will be happy with for years to come.
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Signed 6 yrs $33 million. $5.5 AAV
 
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There was a post on FB that said the day Batman died, the Penguins won the Stanley Cup.
 
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SJHovey said:
There was a story I read, I think on NHL.com, in which Fletcher talked about the draft and the fact that Minnesota doesn't have a first or second round pick this year.

He said that statistics show that if you want to be an average NHL program you must draft two players who will play 100+ NHL games for you each draft. He described that as the "baseline" an NHL team needs to achieve just to be "average." He pointed out that statistic to emphasize the point of later round picks, since he says the Wild and other teams obviously try to get 3 or more players each draft who will play 100+ games for them, so they can be "above average."

So I was bored today and I decided to go back and look at the Wild draft record. In the 17 drafts thus far in their history, they have achieved the "average" of drafting two players who went on to play 100+ games for them six times, none since 2010 when Granlund and Zucker were drafted. Now, in fairness, some of the recent draft picks haven't really had a chance yet. But I don't see a lot of 100+ game NHL candidates out of '11 and '12 other than Brodin and Dumba, respectively.

The Wild drafted "above average" only twice, their first two drafts.

Jonas Brodin is #8 all time in games played for the Wild by a Wild draft pick.
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This is typical for all the Minnesota teams. They claim they need to draft someone for big minutes in the first round and then the player never plays.
 
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LA decides to protect 8 skaters, leaving Quick unprotected.

@mayorNHL: Can confirm...

LA Kings protected Kopitar, Carter, Toffoli, Pearson, Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez, Forbort

#NHLExpansionDraft
 
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joecct said:
LA decides to protect 8 skaters, leaving Quick unprotected.

@mayorNHL: Can confirm...

LA Kings protected Kopitar, Carter, Toffoli, Pearson, Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez, Forbort

#NHLExpansionDraft
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Every team must protect a goalie so Quick will be.
They are just protecting less players than going the 7-3 route.
 
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