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NHL 2012: Playoffs! Part II: Boogalooing all the way to the Cup

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state of hockey said:
That night was great. I remember worrying about reaching the minimum, and then doing it in twenty minutes.
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We dam near doubled it. Each. Which was a task, since Irish Car Bombs were about $8, IIRC. It was a great night.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Karlsson was very deserving of the Norris. He had a Lidstrom-esque season for a shitty team.
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Except Lidstrom plays amazing defense while contributing a lot offensively. Karlsson, as DownGoesBrown basically put it on twitter, is a player you wouldn't want on the ice in the final minutes of a game to protect a lead that Karlsson gave them.
 
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Rimbaud said:
Except Lidstrom plays amazing defense while contributing a lot offensively. Karlsson, as DownGoesBrown basically put it on twitter, is a player you wouldn't want on the ice in the final minutes of a game to protect a lead that Karlsson gave them.
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True. I was mostly referring to his point total, and since the Norris has basically become the "best fourth forward" award... *shrug*
 
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Rimbaud said:
Except Lidstrom plays amazing defense while contributing a lot offensively. Karlsson, as DownGoesBrown basically put it on twitter, is a player you wouldn't want on the ice in the final minutes of a game to protect a lead that Karlsson gave them.
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I don't really know what the numbers say about Karlsson, but, anecdotally, I saw more of him than I liked during the playoffs and didn't think he seemed particularly bad in his own end.
 
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Jordan Staal has reportedly turned down a 10 year mega offer from Pittsburgh, indicating he doesn't want to extend with them. Let the trade rumors begin.
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
Jordan Staal has reportedly turned down a 10 year mega offer from Pittsburgh, indicating he doesn't want to extend with them. Let the trade rumors begin.
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Out of curiosity, why would you offer Jordan Staal a 10-year mega deal? He's pretty good, but overrated in a Chris Drury-type way. Won the Cup at a young age, put up pretty good numbers as a third-line center playing behind two mega-stars, but isn't the kind of guy who's going to carry you to success on his own.
 
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jmh said:
Out of curiosity, why would you offer Jordan Staal a 10-year mega deal? He's pretty good, but overrated in a Chris Drury-type way. Won the Cup at a young age, put up pretty good numbers as a third-line center playing behind two mega-stars, but isn't the kind of guy who's going to carry you to success on his own.
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As a backup plan in case something happens to the other two (kinda like the past two years)?
 
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We have a (the first of many) trade:

BOB goes to the Blue Jackets
Flyers get 3 picks 2012 2nd, 2012 4th, 2013 4th
 
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Well, he should be used to bad defense and poor leadership after his time in Philly. So, Columbus can't be much worse.
 
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Tim Thomas waived his no-trade clause 10 days early so the Bruins are shopping him ahead of the draft. Early indications are they are after Bobby Ryan of Anaheim.
 
jmh said:
Out of curiosity, why would you offer Jordan Staal a 10-year mega deal? He's pretty good, but overrated in a Chris Drury-type way. Won the Cup at a young age, put up pretty good numbers as a third-line center playing behind two mega-stars, but isn't the kind of guy who's going to carry you to success on his own.
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Probably as jmh said. I agree that he isn't likely to be a game changer on his own, but Pittsburgh probably thinks enough of him that they were hoping to lock him in for his prime years. I never saw any figures of what was offered, but Bob McKenzie stated it was a mega offer, whether that mega is in years or dollars wasn't specified.
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
Probably as jmh said. I agree that he isn't likely to be a game changer on his own, but Pittsburgh probably thinks enough of him that they were hoping to lock him in for his prime years. I never saw any figures of what was offered, but Bob McKenzie stated it was a mega offer, whether that mega is in years or dollars wasn't specified.
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10 years/$60 million
 
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Priceless said:
Tim Thomas waived his no-trade clause 10 days early so the Bruins are shopping him ahead of the draft. Early indications are they are after Bobby Ryan of Anaheim.
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I thought he wasn't playing this season so why would anyone trade for him?
 
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First Time said:
I thought he wasn't playing this season so why would anyone trade for him?
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They want to get to the floor of the salary cap. Phoenix needs help getting there. Already have 17 players signed and still have $20 million to go. A $5M cap hit and they don't have to pay him a dime of real money? Perfect!

Also, there is a rumor that if Thomas goes to the right team, he may decide not to take the year off. Colorado might be a good destination for his contract. The Avalanche need to get to the floor ($24M to get there) and his new bunker is somewhere in the Rockies, so there's a marriage...
 
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Can't imagine Anaheim's going to trade Bobby Ryan for him, though, as much as I'd love to see it.
 
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Priceless said:
They want to get to the floor of the salary cap. Phoenix needs help getting there. Already have 17 players signed and still have $20 million to go. A $5M cap hit and they don't have to pay him a dime of real money? Perfect!

Also, there is a rumor that if Thomas goes to the right team, he may decide not to take the year off. Colorado might be a good destination for his contract. The Avalanche need to get to the floor ($24M to get there) and his new bunker is somewhere in the Rockies, so there's a marriage...
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Thomas and Phoenix seem like the perfect marriage in more ways than one. :D
 
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Burke and Gillis were seen in serious discussion off the rink floor. Guess they were not discussing Argos - Lions.
 
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bronconick said:
Can't imagine Anaheim's going to trade Bobby Ryan for him, though, as much as I'd love to see it.
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No, they're talking Lucic, Krecji or a combo of these guys + draft picks/other prospects for Ryan. The thing with TT30's contract would only work for a team like Phoenix which will need help to get to the salary floor.

The price for Nash is Dougie Hamilton + Tyler Seguin + draft picks and Chiarelli told them to pound sand.
 
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Priceless said:
No, they're talking Lucic, Krecji or a combo of these guys + draft picks/other prospects for Ryan. The thing with TT30's contract would only work for a team like Phoenix which will need help to get to the salary floor.

The price for Nash is Dougie Hamilton + Tyler Seguin + draft picks and Chiarelli told them to pound sand.
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The Rangers may be willing to deal for Nash. The need for a top line scorer was exposed and I think NYR will be more apt to trade.
 
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