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NFL 2023-24. Now without Dan Snyder!

After his wife's podcast Matthew Stafford at practice tomorrow:

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As a Lions fan, the worst thing you can have is hope. Last year it was Hard Knocks, and it took most of the season to recover from that. This year it's everyone saying that the Lions already won the Norris, and that this game was possible even before two KC players were out.

While it's not the same Lions- they are competitive, you can feel it's not what everyone hyped up the hope with. Hopefully, in the remaining 1.9 quarters, I'm proven wrong. There's that word again- hope.
 
MichVandal said:
As a Lions fan, the worst thing you can have is hope. Last year it was Hard Knocks, and it took most of the season to recover from that. This year it's everyone saying that the Lions already won the Norris, and that this game was possible even before two KC players were out.

While it's not the same Lions- they are competitive, you can feel it's not what everyone hyped up the hope with. Hopefully, in the remaining 1.9 quarters, I'm proven wrong. There's that word again- hope.
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Bastards. Now I have hope again.
 
Bronco said:
I think they might actually be good.
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See, that's exactly the problem. Even when they have been good, what have the fans actually gotten?

But yea, that line. And as frustrating as it was to see Mahomes run all over the place, the D is more like the second half than the first half of 2022. And the non Lions fans should notice the calls that tilted away from Detroit- like when Hutch was tripped and didn't get called, and the next drive a KC defender jumped over the running back that he leveled- and because they intertwined a little, he got a 15 yard tripping call. Or KC's tackle who lined up as a back- to get a better angle on the defenders- his head should be at least near the waist of the center. Or the number of clean holds that were only called when the defender was hauled down from behind. Thankfully, KC got so used to holding that they did it really badly on their last drive and had to get called for it.
 
MichVandal said:
See, that's exactly the problem. Even when they have been good, what have the fans actually gotten?

But yea, that line. And as frustrating as it was to see Mahomes run all over the place, the D is more like the second half than the first half of 2022. And the non Lions fans should notice the calls that tilted away from Detroit- like when Hutch was tripped and didn't get called, and the next drive a KC defender jumped over the running back that he leveled- and because they intertwined a little, he got a 15 yard tripping call. Or KC's tackle who lined up as a back- to get a better angle on the defenders- his head should be at least near the waist of the center. Or the number of clean holds that were only called when the defender was hauled down from behind. Thankfully, KC got so used to holding that they did it really badly on their last drive and had to get called for it.
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So I expect some to think this post is very sour grapes. But I have seen a few national videos pointing out exactly what I posted here- the holding and the too far back on the right tackle. And they add that the same tackle was moving his leg before the snap- which is not legal, too. The pointed out that it was a relief that the Lions won the game for the sake of the reffing.
 
MichVandal said:
See, that's exactly the problem. Even when they have been good, what have the fans actually gotten?

But yea, that line. And as frustrating as it was to see Mahomes run all over the place, the D is more like the second half than the first half of 2022. And the non Lions fans should notice the calls that tilted away from Detroit- like when Hutch was tripped and didn't get called, and the next drive a KC defender jumped over the running back that he leveled- and because they intertwined a little, he got a 15 yard tripping call. Or KC's tackle who lined up as a back- to get a better angle on the defenders- his head should be at least near the waist of the center. Or the number of clean holds that were only called when the defender was hauled down from behind. Thankfully, KC got so used to holding that they did it really badly on their last drive and had to get called for it.
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Yeah the defense was what held them back last season, and it looked better last night. We will see how improved against Seattle next week. This is the first time in a long while I've been excited to watch the Lions. Still feels weird. :-)

I appreciated last 4 min of the game. The Lions finished the game like good teams do by getting first downs and killing the clock. They can run the ball. It is refreshing to see it after a decade+ of drop back and pray Stafford will carry them. They are different this season. As long as they can remain relatively healthy, they've got a shot at winning a playoff game.
 
Bronco said:
Yeah the defense was what held them back last season, and it looked better last night. We will see how improved against Seattle next week. This is the first time in a long while I've been excited to watch the Lions. Still feels weird. :-)
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Feels like a trap.

I've been a Lions fan since before I moved back to Michigan, and seeing them in Idaho is really hard. I remember listening to the playoff game they won on the radio when my brother and I went skiing during the winter break. That was the single major highlight of being a Lions fan in my +40 years of being a fan.
 
Oh Jesus f-ck, I just realized. 9-11. In New York.

I am not watching that maudlin hypocritical chest-thumping garbage. You'll find me with the Muslims celebrating on the roof.
 
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