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NFL 2022-23: How About A Lions vs. Jaguars Super Bowl?

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JF_Gophers said:
I didn't have the Vikings at *checks notes*, 5-1 to start. Could be 7-1 leading up to the Bill's game.
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Yeah this is weird. Not a terribly inspiring team, but hey you don’t turn wins down. Also didn’t have the Packers losing to the Giants and Jets, even when remembering their offense has been gutted.
 
state of hockey said:
Yeah this is weird. Not a terribly inspiring team, but hey you don’t turn wins down. Also didn’t have the Packers losing to the Giants and Jets, even when remembering their offense has been gutted.
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last year they lost a shyt ton of games on last possession. They haven't been winning decisively (other than GB), but at least they have ended that trend. Now they have to start putting teams away. I wish Couisins had bigger balls.
 
MissThundercat said:
Christian McCaffrey to the 49ers.

Doesn't matter with Jimmy G under center.
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You mean the QB that took the team to the Super Bowl, and also beat Green Bay last year?

I don't get the Jimmy G hate- he may not be Tom Brady, but he's also better that most other QBs in the NFL.
 
MichVandal said:
You mean the QB that took the team to the Super Bowl, and also beat Green Bay last year?

I don't get the Jimmy G hate- he may not be Tom Brady, but he's also better that most other QBs in the NFL.
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I’ll give him the SB year, but he only threw for 131 and an interception last year against GB. That was SF’s special teams that won that game.

I agree with you that he gets more hate than he deserves. He’s an average QB, which unfortunately in today’s NFL means he’s terrible.
 
Jimmy G has been on a couple teams that have done very well. He hasn't been the backbone of those teams, but he also hasn't sabotaged them either. It's more than other skill players around him, and the Shanahan system with its misdirection. It's the type of system that doesn't need a HoF QB, and looking at the league overall you could certainly do worse, but he also hasn't been quite what they needed to win it all. Add to that the injuries and there is doubt he will ever quite get there. Giving up three 1st round picks for Lance, who they hoped would be the solution but looks to be worse, did not help.

McCaffrey could do well in the 49ers system. The question is if he stays healthy.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
I’ll give him the SB year, but he only threw for 131 and an interception last year against GB. That was SF’s special teams that won that game.

I agree with you that he gets more hate than he deserves. He’s an average QB, which unfortunately in today’s NFL means he’s terrible.
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Horrible in the eyes of the talking heads, I suppose. But he's better than most out there- capable of effectively running the system that he's being asked to play. And since he came from a totally different system, he's capable of adjusting.

Lots of teams need solid QBs, and they all turned their backs on a good deal to get him. Sucks for them, but SF is doing pretty well as him as the playing back up.
 
MichVandal said:
Horrible in the eyes of the talking heads, I suppose. But he's better than most out there- capable of effectively running the system that he's being asked to play. And since he came from a totally different system, he's capable of adjusting.

Lots of teams need solid QBs, and they all turned their backs on a good deal to get him. Sucks for them, but SF is doing pretty well as him as the playing back up.
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Exactly. He's never going to win any stat competitions, but you can't argue with the results of the two seasons he was healthy: very close to winning one SB and very close to getting to another. His main job in their system is to run the offense, not pass for 5000 yards in a season. You can certainly wonder if with another QB they get over the hill in SB LIV or 2022 NFC CG, but you also have to make do with the QBs that exist, not one you want to create out of thin air, and there are far more worse QBs in the league than better ones.

All that said, it's the injuries, and the fact he's only had two full season of the four he's been here, that I think ways on people. The 49ers need to do something while all of their skill position players are still very good, and they have a limited timeframe to do it. Is a QB who is hurt as often as healthy the solution there?
 
French Rage said:
All that said, it's the injuries, and the fact he's only had two full season of the four he's been here, that I think ways on people. The 49ers need to do something while all of their skill position players are still very good, and they have a limited timeframe to do it. Is a QB who is hurt as often as healthy the solution there?
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Which is part of the reason they got Tre Lance. Who just got hurt by playing.

It's pretty ironic that nobody chose Jimmy G because of his injuries, and now he's playing (and winning) because of his replacement's injury.
 
MichVandal said:
Which is part of the reason they got Tre Lance. Who just got hurt by playing.

It's pretty ironic that nobody chose Jimmy G because of his injuries, and now he's playing (and winning) because of his replacement's injury.
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Oh yeah. I get the point of wanting someone to replace Jimmy G because of the injury issues, but Lance was just such a comically bad choice to be that guy. "Let's give up 3 first round picks for a guy who played one full season at NDSU."
 
French Rage said:
Jimmy G has been on a couple teams that have done very well. He hasn't been the backbone of those teams, but he also hasn't sabotaged them either. It's more than other skill players around him, and the Shanahan system with its misdirection. It's the type of system that doesn't need a HoF QB, and looking at the league overall you could certainly do worse, but he also hasn't been quite what they needed to win it all. Add to that the injuries and there is doubt he will ever quite get there. Giving up three 1st round picks for Lance, who they hoped would be the solution but looks to be worse, did not help.

McCaffrey could do well in the 49ers system. The question is if he stays healthy.
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Well, he did sorta puke up that Super Bowl.

I see the faults, but I don't really get the hatred either. He's Kirk Cousins, or Alex Smith. Probably not gonna win you games by himself, but he won't be the sole reason you lose them either(most of the time). There's a lot worse QBs out there.

As Garropolo fanboi 98.5 The SportsHub's Tony Masserotti says, he just wins.
 
rufus said:
Well, he did sorta puke up that Super Bowl.

I see the faults, but I don't really get the hatred either. He's Kirk Cousins, or Alex Smith. Probably not gonna win you games by himself, but he won't be the sole reason you lose them either(most of the time). There's a lot worse QBs out there.

As Garropolo fanboi 98.5 The SportsHub's Tony Masserotti says, he just wins.
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I very much don't put that on him- they changed how they played the game and let KC back into it.
 
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