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NFL 2018 - cheaters never win, except for the super bowls and stuff :(

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Kepler said:
Kick it 100 feet into the sky and catch it in the end zone. TD.
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Way back when in the first game of the NFL season (I can't remember what teams were involved), the opening kickoff is sent to the endzone. The receiving team had two players back. They both thought the other player was going to catch it, so they both ran up to block. The ball bounces in the endzone and stops dead. The kicking team jumps on it for a touchdown.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
Way back when in the first game of the NFL season (I can't remember what teams were involved), the opening kickoff is sent to the endzone. The receiving team had two players back. They both thought the other player was going to catch it, so they both ran up to block. The ball bounces in the endzone and stops dead. The kicking team jumps on it for a touchdown.
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Stillers Titans
 
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joecct said:
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Looking at the replay, if the DB hit Diggs when he wanted to, it would have been before the ball got there.
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joecct said:
If he had been taught to wrap the player up instead of throwing his body at the player, NO wins.
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Exactly Joe, you responded to your own point. He shouldn't have even wanted to hit Diggs until after the catch. Props to the young man for not ducking the press after the game, but based on his comments, he still doesn't get it. He said he should have attacked the ball. No. He should have made sure that he was between the receiver and the goal line. And incomplete pass gives the Steelers another play. A completed pass and an in-bounds tackle and the game's over.
 
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walrus said:
It was obvious to everyone who had slow motion replay.



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No it was obvious to everyone and it should have been obvious to his sideline who were looking right at it. They tried to convince the ref it was incomplete (even though he had the perfect angle) then Payton trusted them cause they were emotional about it. Slow motion was the only way to see it might NOT have been a catch (the ball moves a tiny bit...god I hate that rule btw) but at real speed nothing makes it look like an incomplete pass.
 
CLS said:
Exactly Joe, you responded to your own point. He shouldn't have even wanted to hit Diggs until after the catch. Props to the young man for not ducking the press after the game, but based on his comments, he still doesn't get it. He said he should have attacked the ball. No. He should have made sure that he was between the receiver and the goal line. And incomplete pass gives the Steelers another play. A completed pass and an in-bounds tackle and the game's over.
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This is what I teach my kids in Pop Warner and they look at me like I have two heads. Now, I will show this play.
 
Re: NFL 2018 - cheaters never win, except for the super bowls and stuff :(

CLS said:
Edited your post. My question: If it's so important that the extra point be kicked with no time remaining, why didn't the Patriots have to kick the XP in the Super Bowl? Or the Colts in 195x



Dunno. Jimmy Jones said it was because he wanted to avoid a PI call. I don't buy that.
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Possibly. But he was early to get to the player cause he was so aggressive in going after him. But in that situation, aggressiveness is the last thing you need. Keep the play in front of you at all times, don't let anyone get behind you. I mean, that's just basic, end of game prevent defense.
 
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rufus said:
Possibly. But he was early to get to the player cause he was so aggressive in going after him. But in that situation, aggressiveness is the last thing you need. Keep the play in front of you at all times, don't let anyone get behind you. I mean, that's just basic, end of game prevent defense.
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Agree. Possibly what happened was that the coaches overemphasized the "no PI" because that was the <u>second </u>worst case scenario. It would have stopped the clock, perhaps giving the Vikings a shot at a field goal. And perhaps the reason that Williams is a good player is that he's aggressive. The fact that he didn't know (and apparently still doesn't) know how to properly channel his aggressiveness is a coaching failure.
 
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It's the way the game is played these days too. Everybody wants to make the highlight reel hit, or the amazing pass breakup instead of just making sure the player gets stopped. Why no one wraps up tackles anymore, they'd rather deliver the bone-jarring shoulder hit, and just wrap their arms around and drag him down.

He wanted to make the big hit, take his legs out from under him while he was up in the air, but then realized his timing was off and he was gonna hit him before the ball got there. Which is why he did that awkward stumbling fly-by.
 
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rufus said:
It's the way the game is played these days too. Everybody wants to make the highlight reel hit, or the amazing pass breakup instead of just making sure the player gets stopped. Why no one wraps up tackles anymore, they'd rather deliver the bone-jarring shoulder hit, and just wrap their arms around and drag him down.

He wanted to make the big hit, take his legs out from under him while he was up in the air, but then realized his timing was off and he was gonna hit him before the ball got there. Which is why he did that awkward stumbling fly-by.
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IDK, I heard that he was trying to not hit him and get the PI call, probably because they'd get the yardage and automatic clock stoppage.

That said who knows what was going through his head, for a safety to make that play at that moment was just mind boggling.

(edit: just saw the post you responded to now)
 
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trixR4kids said:
IDK, I heard that he was trying to not hit him and get the PI call, probably because they'd get the yardage and automatic clock stoppage.

That said who knows what was going through his head, for a safety to make that play at that moment was just mind boggling.

(edit: just saw the post you responded to now)
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No, I think you can see by the way he's charging up at him, he was planning to take the legs out from under him. But then, like you said, he heard the coach's "No PI" in his head, knew that he was gonna get there too soon, and so you see he kind of awkwardly threw himself down and to the side to avoid hitting him. You don't plan on not hitting someone, and close in on him that aggressively.
 
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You guys go to such great lengths to explain the unexplainable but utter not a word about Thor's role in all this.
 
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burd said:
You guys go to such great lengths to explain the unexplainable but utter not a word about Thor's role in all this.
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It was a battle between Thor and God...and Thor won....
 
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rufus said:
No, I think you can see by the way he's charging up at him, he was planning to take the legs out from under him. But then, like you said, he heard the coach's "No PI" in his head, knew that he was gonna get there too soon, and so you see he kind of awkwardly threw himself down and to the side to avoid hitting him. You don't plan on not hitting someone, and close in on him that aggressively.
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Yeah that's a good point... I get that it's an emotional sport that happens really fast in real time etc. but man that was such a meathead decision.
 
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