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NFL 2018.1 The off season

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Millennials are killing the NFL!!!!1!

I know this is at least partially in jest, but increased ticket prices with flat wage growth of their fans, when taken over many years and adjusted for inflation, is killing the NFL.
 
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I know this is at least partially in jest, but increased ticket prices with flat wage growth of their fans, when taken over many years and adjusted for inflation, is killing the NFL.

That coupled with the improvement and decreasing cost of the at-home experience. You can get a pretty nice new 65" TV for the same price as taking the family to one game.
 
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I know this is at least partially in jest, but increased ticket prices with flat wage growth of their fans, when taken over many years and adjusted for inflation, is killing the NFL.

Plus bad/divisive PR from CTE, high profile criminal issues, team owners being ******canoes, and the anthem kerfuffle.

But yeah, all that avocado toast is our problem, dad gummit!
 
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That coupled with the improvement and decreasing cost of the at-home experience. You can get a pretty nice new 65" TV for the same price as taking the family to one game.

Many years ago, a friend of mine once said, and I agreed with him then and more so now, that of any sport where you lose the least going from an in person experience to an at home experience, it's football.
 
Many years ago, a friend of mine once said, and I agreed with him then and more so now, that of any sport where you lose the least going from an in person experience to an at home experience, it's football.

I still think there will come a day when most sports cater too much to the tv audiences to the detriment of the live experience. Football is already there, in my opinion. Hockey is getting there with the tv timeouts interrupting the game unnecessarily. Baseball's between innings breaks keep getting longer. Basketball's too.

Honestly one of the reasons I've gotten into soccer is the lack of tv timeouts. 45 minutes, 15 minute halftime, 45 minutes, call it a game.
 
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Many years ago, a friend of mine once said, and I agreed with him then and more so now, that of any sport where you lose the least going from an in person experience to an at home experience, it's football.

In-person NFL is horrid, b/c of the TV timeouts.
Baseball is slow enough where it doesn't really matter.
Hockey minimizes the timeouts, so it's cool. Plus, no-TV-timeout OTs.

Then, of course, the price of tickets.
 
I still think there will come a day when most sports cater too much to the tv audiences to the detriment of the live experience. Football is already there, in my opinion. Hockey is getting there with the tv timeouts interrupting the game unnecessarily. Baseball's between innings breaks keep getting longer. Basketball's too.

Honestly one of the reasons I've gotten into soccer is the lack of tv timeouts. 45 minutes, 15 minute halftime, 45 minutes, call it a game.

BU has been instituting tv timeouts when there isn’t tv :eek:
 
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In-person NFL is horrid, b/c of the TV timeouts.
Baseball is slow enough where it doesn't really matter.
Hockey minimizes the timeouts, so it's cool. Plus, no-TV-timeout OTs.

Then, of course, the price of tickets.

I was at the Twins game this past Sunday with my future in-laws. My fiancée's BIL bought two burgers, two hot dogs, two of the "small" pops, and two beers. $70. At $20/ticket in the RF bleachers, he spent $150, and that was by the end of the first inning. It's a lot of money for just a few hours of entertainment.
 
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Many years ago, a friend of mine once said, and I agreed with him then and more so now, that of any sport where you lose the least going from an in person experience to an at home experience, it's football.

If you're talking about the NFL I would say the experience is GREATLY improved being at home.

College sports lose the most by not being there. Among the pro sports, baseball is the one that loses the most for me. I have never been to an NBA game.
 
I was at the Twins game this past Sunday with my future in-laws. My fiancée's BIL bought two burgers, two hot dogs, two of the "small" pops, and two beers. $70. At $20/ticket in the RF bleachers, he spent $150, and that was by the end of the first inning. It's a lot of money for just a few hours of entertainment.

That’s what makes 5hr Red Sox yankees games economical :)
 
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If you're talking about the NFL I would say the experience is GREATLY improved being at home.

College sports lose the most by not being there. Among the pro sports, baseball is the one that loses the most for me. I have never been to an NBA game.

You and I have similar thoughts on live sports. If I can’t be there, I’d rather listen to baseball on the radio.
 
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I'd say baseball is the best radio sport.

If baseball were a 10 and dressage were a 1, I think the only thing above a 6 or 7 would depend on the radio announcer rather than the sport. Mike Grimm does the Gopher football and basketball games. He’s an absolute treat to listen to.
 
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If baseball were a 10 and dressage were a 1, I think the only thing above a 6 or 7 would depend on the radio announcer rather than the sport. Mike Grimm does the Gopher football and basketball games. He’s an absolute treat to listen to.

Radio completely depends on the PBP. Being a Mets fan has been... well, a trial... but made significantly better by a succession of truly great PBP men.

Bob Murphy, my favorite baseball announcer of all time, would say very little. He wasn't afraid to let us listen to the ballpark sounds. He understood you weren't there for him.
 
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If you're talking about the NFL I would say the experience is GREATLY improved being at home.

College sports lose the most by not being there. Among the pro sports, baseball is the one that loses the most for me. I have never been to an NBA game.

I would say the single best live sports experience I have ever had is sitting courtside at an NBA game. Sitting on the glass at a hockey game is cool and a little better than being up in the stands, but it's pretty much the same experience no mater where you are. Same for the NFL, nose bleeds or sideline, the in stadium experience isn't THAT different. Courtside for an NBA game is an entirely different experience than even being 10 rows up. Being at the same level as the players what you watch and how it feels is so different than it is when you're looking down at them.
 
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I would say the single best live sports experience I have ever had is sitting courtside at an NBA game. Sitting on the glass at a hockey game is cool and a little better than being up in the stands, but it's pretty much the same experience no mater where you are. Same for the NFL, nose bleeds or sideline, the in stadium experience isn't THAT different. Courtside for an NBA game is an entirely different experience than even being 10 rows up. Being at the same level as the players what you watch and how it feels is so different than it is when you're looking down at them.

I hate being on the glass for a hockey game, and would much rather be up high to see the plays develop.
 
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