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NFL 2018.1 The off season

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jericho said:
I don't follow the NBA either, but about a decade or so ago there was a Muslim player for the Nuggets who did the same thing. He was also blackballed from the league
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Had to Google it,

On March 12, 1996, the NBA suspended Abdul-Rauf for one game, citing a rule that players must line up in a “dignified posture” for the anthem. It cost him almost $32,000 of his $2.6 million salary. The players union supported Abdul-Rauf, and he quickly reached a compromise with the league that allowed him to stand and pray with his head down during the anthem. But at the end of the season, the Nuggets traded Abdul-Rauf, who averaged a team-high 19.2 points and 6.8 assists, to the Sacramento Kings.
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https://theundefeated.com/features/abdul-rauf-doesnt-regret-sitting-out-national-anthem/
 
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Handyman said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just in case ya forgot who suggested to <a href="https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Kaepernick7</a> that he should kneel... <a href="https://t.co/QkfO5NV7c5">pic.twitter.com/QkfO5NV7c5</a></p>— &#55356;&#56810;&#55356;&#56808; J.A.M.&#55356;&#56810;&#55356;&#56808; (@MrAcosta89) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrAcosta89/status/999339467004620804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Thanks, Handyman. I wasn't aware of the backstory on how sitting evolved into kneeling. The discussion between the Marine and Kaepernick is really outstanding. What a shame that the public conversation never approached this level.
 
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trixR4kids said:
It's not a free speech issue in the legal sense. But corporations and employers definitely trample on free speech, albeit legally.

Saying, "it's not a free speech issue", is sorta right in the sense that the first amendment simply means the government can't deny your free speech but a company you work for can. But it doesn't mean the company isn't denying you the opportunity to say something you would've otherwise.
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The company isn't denying you can say whatever, but it can take action against you.

Ok, this board, USCHO, has terms and conditions of being a member. If I start spouting off that "All n* (you know the rest) should die!" Well, I have free speech protection, yes? Nope. USCHO can ban me. The NFL has those same terms and conditions, as agreed upon in contract with the NFLPA.

NOTE: I do NOT believe that all n* should die, using it as an example in this situation.
 
Brenthoven said:
The company isn't denying you can say whatever, but it can take action against you.

Ok, this board, USCHO, has terms and conditions of being a member. If I start spouting off that "All n* (you know the rest) should die!" Well, I have free speech protection, yes? Nope. USCHO can ban me. The NFL has those same terms and conditions, as agreed upon in contract with the NFLPA.

NOTE: I do NOT believe that all n* should die, using it as an example in this situation.
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Well yeah... the person can choose to say whatever and the company can choose to take action against those who exercise their first amendment rights. Thus essentially denying free speech.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Well yeah... the person can choose to say whatever and the company can choose to take action against those who exercise their first amendment rights. Thus essentially denying free speech.
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I think you're getting it. The free speech laws do not apply here, despite what some say here and elsewhere.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NYT editorial board shreds NFL: They caved to a president who "relishes demonizing black athletes" <a href="https://t.co/HC2c4jz1aa">https://t.co/HC2c4jz1aa</a> <a href="https://t.co/lYeGHTLmtC">pic.twitter.com/lYeGHTLmtC</a></p>— The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1000498069224460290?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That’s exactly what this whole thing is about. Putting a bunch of uppity black people back in their place.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
That’s exactly what this whole thing is about. Putting a bunch of uppity black people back in their place.
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Catering to the 'Murica (educated opinion: the audience that might put football ahead of God in life's important things) is my take. Doesn't matter if they are black or white. They are offending football and our troops galldurnit.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Catering to the 'Murica (educated opinion: the audience that might put football ahead of God in life's important things) is my take. Doesn't matter if they are black or white. They are offending football and our troops galldurnit.
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But when Fergie/pop star decides to put their own spin on the anthem, no comment.
 
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"Respect the Anthem" crowd has no issues yelling "Sue" at the end of the Anthem either...
 
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I can’t say “meh” hard enough. It has literally nothing to do with the troops, America, or any such Murica boner inducing whatever.
 
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