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NFL 2018.1 The off season
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St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
MavHockey14
New member
Offensive coaches, and the way the game has evolved towards offense, won’t ever let it happen, IMHO.
SonofSouthie
Misanthrope
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
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MavHockey14
New member
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
The catch rule has officially been changed.
1. Control
2. Two feet or another body part
3. A football move
The catch rule has officially been changed.
1. Control
2. Two feet or another body part
3. A football move
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
So basically "going to the ground" and/or "surviving the ground" are no longer a thing.
Dunno about the definitions of "control of the ball" and "football move" - I suspect we're going to be right back here next year.
So basically "going to the ground" and/or "surviving the ground" are no longer a thing.
Dunno about the definitions of "control of the ball" and "football move" - I suspect we're going to be right back here next year.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Why is that your interpretation?
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
"Two feet or other body part" making contact with the ground supersedes "surviving the ground." Guy catches, secures control, makes a forward lunge while losing balance, knee makes contact inbounds, then he completes his fall and the ball rattles loose in his hands but he holds on afterward. That can now be a good catch.
"Two feet or other body part" making contact with the ground supersedes "surviving the ground." Guy catches, secures control, makes a forward lunge while losing balance, knee makes contact inbounds, then he completes his fall and the ball rattles loose in his hands but he holds on afterward. That can now be a good catch.
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
So, what the rule was before all the fiascoes....funny.
So, what the rule was before all the fiascoes....funny.
rufus
rock and roller
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
but what if he made the grab just leaping straight up and down, falls to the ground and then the ball rattles loose. did he make a 'football move'?
but what if he made the grab just leaping straight up and down, falls to the ground and then the ball rattles loose. did he make a 'football move'?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
I think 99% of the time any sort of lower body movement after he grabs the ball can be interpreted as trying to stay in bounds / get more yardage / etc. If OTOH he gets hammered in the air and the ball comes free on contact with the ground that should never have been a catch anyway.
This does seem to clear 95% of the confusion up. I'm as surprised as anyone, but I think The Shield didn't actually make things worse just this once.
I think 99% of the time any sort of lower body movement after he grabs the ball can be interpreted as trying to stay in bounds / get more yardage / etc. If OTOH he gets hammered in the air and the ball comes free on contact with the ground that should never have been a catch anyway.
This does seem to clear 95% of the confusion up. I'm as surprised as anyone, but I think The Shield didn't actually make things worse just this once.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
3. A football move
What are they trying to capture with this addition? The more I think about it the less it is necessary. If you have control and your feet are in play, why is anything else necessary?
Interesting that they didn't take this opportunity to change it to only one foot in bounds. Much better rule IMHO.
3. A football move
What are they trying to capture with this addition? The more I think about it the less it is necessary. If you have control and your feet are in play, why is anything else necessary?
Interesting that they didn't take this opportunity to change it to only one foot in bounds. Much better rule IMHO.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
I assume they put that in for fumbles. If a move isn't required then there would be a lot more fumbles. Personally i'd prefer that but they don't.
I assume they put that in for fumbles. If a move isn't required then there would be a lot more fumbles. Personally i'd prefer that but they don't.
MavHockey14
New member
Correct. They used the Jesse James example in their video that it would be a touchdown under the new rules, but a fumble had it happened at mid field, as he wasn’t touched by a defender.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
I'm still not tracking.
If the initial impact with the ground causes him to lose the ball that shouldn't be a catch (it isn't two feet down or body part). If he gets down and then fumbles that should be a catch and a fumble.
The James play will be called correctly without the football move proviso. He has control and he has a body part down so it's a catch. The ball is in his hands extended over the goal line so it's a TD. Anything that happens after that doesn't matter.
I'm still not tracking.
If the initial impact with the ground causes him to lose the ball that shouldn't be a catch (it isn't two feet down or body part). If he gets down and then fumbles that should be a catch and a fumble.
The James play will be called correctly without the football move proviso. He has control and he has a body part down so it's a catch. The ball is in his hands extended over the goal line so it's a TD. Anything that happens after that doesn't matter.
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rufus
rock and roller
Re: NFL 2018.1 The off season
but on running plays, the ground can't cause a fumble. running back dives over the line, breaks the plane, then loses the ball, it's a td. receiver has to make a 'football move'? as I said, what if he goes way up in the back of the endzone, has possession, gets his two feet down, but does nothing else other than jump, catch, and fall to the ground? and then loses the ball.
possession. broke the plane. both feet in. is that a catch? I say it is, but the new new rule says it isn't, cause no 'football move'. and here we are, right back where we started.
but on running plays, the ground can't cause a fumble. running back dives over the line, breaks the plane, then loses the ball, it's a td. receiver has to make a 'football move'? as I said, what if he goes way up in the back of the endzone, has possession, gets his two feet down, but does nothing else other than jump, catch, and fall to the ground? and then loses the ball.
possession. broke the plane. both feet in. is that a catch? I say it is, but the new new rule says it isn't, cause no 'football move'. and here we are, right back where we started.