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New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

Puck Swami

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There is a high school in Texas that is building a new 18,000 seat high multi-million school football stadium. As I look at this facility, I wonder if we as a society, have lost our sense of priorities....

Have a look:
http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/if-drawings-are-any-indication.html

If you want to go in depth:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29858263/Allen-high-school-football-stadium-drawings-specs

This school district can spend its money how it wants, but I can't help but think this might have pushed sanity over the brink...
 
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Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

There is a high school in Texas that is building a new 18,000 seat high multi-million school football stadium. As I look at this facility, I wonder if we as a society, have lost our sense of priorities....

Have a look:
http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/if-drawings-are-any-indication.html

This school district can spend its money how it wants, but I can't help but think this might have pushed sanity over the brink...

Have we lost our minds? No. Has Texas? Yes. :p
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

The owner of a certain Norse themed pro team is going to be jealous.
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

Is our children learning, indeed.

I especially like how it takes until the *12th* comment on the blog before someone says
18,000 seats?!

A RIDICULOUS WASTE OF $119.4 MILLION!!

And even then, it's unclear whether he's upset about the cost to taxpayers, or just about the # of seats for the price.
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

There is a high school in Texas that is building a new 18,000 seat high multi-million school football stadium. As I look at this facility, I wonder if we as a society, have lost our sense of priorities....

Have a look:
http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/if-drawings-are-any-indication.html

If you want to go in depth:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29858263/Allen-high-school-football-stadium-drawings-specs

This school district can spend its money how it wants, but I can't help but think this might have pushed sanity over the brink...

Can't say I'm surprised. I went to private school, and I remember being impressed with the facilities of many larger public high schools. It's amazing what millions of dollars worth of state funding will get you. So really, it was only a matter of time before the football-mad South proposed to build a high school stadium that puts the vast majority of the small colleges and universities in this country to shame.

Not saying it's right, but I did see it as inevitable.
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

There is a high school in Texas that is building a new 18,000 seat high multi-million school football stadium. As I look at this facility, I wonder if we as a society, have lost our sense of priorities....

Have a look:
http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/04/if-drawings-are-any-indication.html

If you want to go in depth:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29858263/Allen-high-school-football-stadium-drawings-specs

This school district can spend its money how it wants, but I can't help but think this might have pushed sanity over the brink...

Swami, we're talking about Texas here, where two story air conditioned press boxes and theatre type seats are far from unheard of. Where the highest paid guy at a high school will be the football coach, not the principal. And where, when you call the coach, a nice lady answers the 'phone saying "football office." No, no, the perspective you're talking about would be relevant in any of the 49 other states, but not Texas. I was living there when they finally got around to implementing "no pass, no play," to encourage the boys to do a little studying in the off season (Texas has spring football too, dontcha know) and it took a blue ribbon commission headed by H. Ross Perot, to get it done. This reform brought Texas in line with the academic requirements of my high school and I assume yours and everyone else's. But in Texas it was a BFD of the first order.

Anyone who hasn't read Friday Night Lights should do so. It's an eye opening experience, but nothing new for anyone familiar with Texas high school football. I recall the 60 Minutes piece about the book. They interviewed some idiot woman who strongly asserted that they had football in perspective, and she had on black nail polish, you know, Permian's color. This was a middle aged woman, not some cheer leader, but of course her perspective and that of the cheer leader were identical when it came to Permian football. IIRC, the Permian stadium seats over 20K, features a home on the property for the head grounds keeper, and the field is below grade level. Oh yeah, and it's totally sold out. So while this stadium in Allen is a gross waste of taxpayer money, I'm not surprised. In fact, if some egg head would have suggested spending some of that money on, say, books or computers or something, he'd have been laughed out of town (if not worse).
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

"Go ahead and vote down the bond. Sounds like more of a Shelbyville idea anyway."
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

Can't say I'm surprised. I went to private school, and I remember being impressed with the facilities of many larger public high schools. It's amazing what millions of dollars worth of state funding will get you. So really, it was only a matter of time before the football-mad South proposed to build a high school stadium that puts the vast majority of the small colleges and universities in this country to shame.

Not saying it's right, but I did see it as inevitable.

Allen HS is an upper-income high school has 5,000 students. The only reason to have a high school that big in the first place is to dominate in sports.
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

No one who has ever seen a Texas HS football game live should be surprised by this. There are NCAA D1 universities that don't draw as well as some of these high schools in Texas.
 
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I get that high school football is big in Texas. So put up some grandstands for a million or two and let people watch. Or play in college stadiums. For a high school to spend $75-100 million on a fancy stadium that gets used 6 or 8 nights a year is insane. Truly.
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

If Indiana had kept the single class basketball championships the same thing would be going on there. 10 of the top 12 largest are located there LINK

I agree that its excessive and costly...but not surprising.
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

How local communities pay for that kind of bond, anyway?

Do local property taxes jump from $18.40 per $1k to $72.90/$1k?!?
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

For a high school to spend $75-100 million on a fancy stadium that gets used 6 or 8 nights a year is insane. Truly.

It is. But remember, these are paid for by bond issues, and that means the tax payers are going into these deals completely voluntarily.
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

When I worked for Daktronics, much of our work was dedicated to new video displays in Texas high school stadiums. It's just ridiculous what they are spending.
 
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I wonder how many of these athletes who end up transferring districts or schools are being paid under the table? Theres no regulatory body (as far as I know), like the NCAA to run tabs on these things and I doubt most high school districts have the resources or (in Tejas) the desire to run herd on things like that.

edit: The comments suggest the 119 million is for three projects. The actual price for the stadium is a mere 65 million dollars.
 
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Have we lost our minds? YES! What are these morons thinking??? THOSE SIGHTLINES WOULD BE HORRIBLE FOR HOCKEY!!!
 
Re: New High School Football Stadium in Texas: Have we lost our minds?

It is. But remember, these are paid for by bond issues, and that means the tax payers are going into these deals completely voluntarily.


That's exactly why I am questioning this. What kind of community votes to spend this much money on something so thoroughly un-needed? $5 million would buy you all the grandstands you need. Or pay a few thousand in rent and play your games at SMU or North Texas State...
 
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