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New Conference Idea

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A ton of the discourse in this thread seems to fly in the face of common sense.

It is undeniable that more college hockey games are on TV now than ever before.

Further, there are even more that are going to be on TV, come next season, than are, even now.

If this were not a money making proposition for the entities televising these games, they wouldn't be doing it. Pure, plain, and simple. I mean, this is Business 101 stuff. Who cares WHAT the ratings are if you are making money at a level that satisfies the people that care about this at the various networks involved? I mean, television is becoming more and more fractionated every passing day and I don't know if the ratings some of these broadcasts are getting are necessarily all that bad any more. I have Direct TV and I have something like 1000 channels to chose from!

One can infer, because of the proliferation of games, that MORE interest in the product will be generated in it as well. I have to think that NBC, the BIG 10 Network, and CBS gave this some level of thought before basically going all in on this. Plus, as is currently being discussed in at least two other threads in the forum that I know of, the BIG 10 is certainly not going to be sitting on any 6 team conference for very long.

It's interesting to me, that in a forum like this that would seemingly be loaded with college hockey proponents such as myself, that there are so many Negative Nancys on the television topic.
 
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the only people watching are the ones who can't afford to go to the rink for the game, so tell me how that is a desirable group? UNO has a total of 85k people watch a national network show? You could put on the shopping channel or deputy dawg re runs, which have production costs 1/10 the size of hockey and make triple the money.

Every hockey fan I know can most certainly afford to go to a game - Most of them have kids who have activities that don't end till about game time of friday and saturday nights.... Or you take me for instance. I used to go to AT LEAST one Gopher game a weekend, but I now live 4 hours from the U and almost 2 hours from my other teams rink.
 
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ok, then I stand corrected.

I can see how college hockey can be on in New England and in Minnesota, but even in Michigan the local sports network, which used to put it on, took it off. So it can't be making much, if any, money. They are desperate for programming and they STILL took it off.

And since it can't make money in parts of the country where hockey is known, I don't see how it's going to be a national draw. Plus I still don't see hockey fans as an affluent group any more than baseball fans or football fans, or basketball fans, or poker fans.
I live 600 miles from the team I support, and I try to watch them on the internet feed, but really I don't watch some other college game, even if it's on, unless it's a game with National significance. Minnesota vs North Dakota, or BU vs BC. I'll listen to the Tech games, but when they are over, I'm not watching wisconsin.
 
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You could put on the shopping channel or deputy dawg re runs, which have production costs 1/10 the size of hockey and make triple the money.
BTN has found that by just sending 2 cameras and a girl reporter to do on ice interviews, they can keep costs down. The play by play guys stay back at the studio. They don't do any research, and they show clips of Michigan Tech vs. Minnesota while talking about how Michigan is struggling. It's obvious they'd rather be showing bouncy ball...but every now and then they show volleyball or hockey or some other sport they believe few people care about.
 
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BTN has found that by just sending 2 cameras and a girl reporter to do on ice interviews, they can keep costs down. The play by play guys stay back at the studio. They don't do any research, and they show clips of Michigan Tech vs. Minnesota while talking about how Michigan is struggling. It's obvious they'd rather be showing bouncy ball...but every now and then they show volleyball or hockey or some other sport they believe few people care about.
Their producers aren't worth a darn either. At last year's Michigan-Northern Michigan game at Yost, the fonted NMU as "UNM." I didn't know the university of New Mexico had a college hockey team. Their college hockey production fell far short of what FSN put out the following night! Morons!
 
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I'm still wondering where the "one major marquee team from the WCHA" came from in the original post. Is Mankato a "major marquee team" or is it UAA, since they're in a metropolitan area that more than 10% of the population of this country could point to on a map? Maybe Bemidji, since they were at the Frozen 4 a few years ago.... Tech has 3 dusty national titles, maybe that's it.
 
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I'm still wondering where the "one major marquee team from the WCHA" came from in the original post. Is Mankato a "major marquee team" or is it UAA, since they're in a metropolitan area that more than 10% of the population of this country could point to on a map? Maybe Bemidji, since they were at the Frozen 4 a few years ago.... Tech has 3 dusty national titles, maybe that's it.
Bemidji. Beavers are always a "major marquee" mention
 
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I'm still wondering where the "one major marquee team from the WCHA" came from in the original post. Is Mankato a "major marquee team" or is it UAA, since they're in a metropolitan area that more than 10% of the population of this country could point to on a map? Maybe Bemidji, since they were at the Frozen 4 a few years ago.... Tech has 3 dusty national titles, maybe that's it.

Sarcasm or are you being serious? If serious reread the thread again.
 
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I'm still wondering where the "one major marquee team from the WCHA" came from in the original post. Is Mankato a "major marquee team" or is it UAA, since they're in a metropolitan area that more than 10% of the population of this country could point to on a map? Maybe Bemidji, since they were at the Frozen 4 a few years ago.... Tech has 3 dusty national titles, maybe that's it.

I'm going Minnesota. (We're mocking the big ten here, not nWCHA)
 
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Plus, as is currently being discussed in at least two other threads in the forum that I know of, the BIG 10 is certainly not going to be sitting on any 6 team conference for very long.
Define very long. I'd say at least a decade. Maybe more. It just doesn't seem that feasible for many schools at this particular time. But then again we said that about the Big Ten hockey conference.
 
Define very long. I'd say at least a decade. Maybe more. It just doesn't seem that feasible for many schools at this particular time. But then again we said that about the Big Ten hockey conference.

Or Biddco getting engaged.

And yeah, the first post is talking about the Big Ten. Subpar WCHA = UW. CCHA schools mentioned = Mich, MSU, OSU. Expansion team = PSU. Starting to make sense now? :D
 
Re: New Conference Idea

A ton of the discourse in this thread seems to fly in the face of common sense.

It is undeniable that more college hockey games are on TV now than ever before.

Further, there are even more that are going to be on TV, come next season, than are, even now.

If this were not a money making proposition for the entities televising these games, they wouldn't be doing it. Pure, plain, and simple. I mean, this is Business 101 stuff. Who cares WHAT the ratings are if you are making money at a level that satisfies the people that care about this at the various networks involved? I mean, television is becoming more and more fractionated every passing day and I don't know if the ratings some of these broadcasts are getting are necessarily all that bad any more. I have Direct TV and I have something like 1000 channels to chose from!

One can infer, because of the proliferation of games, that MORE interest in the product will be generated in it as well. I have to think that NBC, the BIG 10 Network, and CBS gave this some level of thought before basically going all in on this. Plus, as is currently being discussed in at least two other threads in the forum that I know of, the BIG 10 is certainly not going to be sitting on any 6 team conference for very long.

It's interesting to me, that in a forum like this that would seemingly be loaded with college hockey proponents such as myself, that there are so many Negative Nancys on the television topic.

Delusional is a terrible way to go through life.
 
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Define very long. I'd say at least a decade. Maybe more. It just doesn't seem that feasible for many schools at this particular time. But then again we said that about the Big Ten hockey conference.
How about 40 years? The ACC has had a 4 team lacrosse conference since the 1970s, but Notre Dame and Syracuse are just about to join.
 
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Still beats fat, drunk and stupid. Wait... no it doesn't.

Flounder > Red Cows

Hey, Animal House is one of my favorite movies.

Red Cows > Flounder

I get laid every once in awhile. He didn't. Plus, I don't borrow my brother's car. I have my own. :D
 
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I'm still wondering where the "one major marquee team from the WCHA" came from in the original post. Is Mankato a "major marquee team" or is it UAA, since they're in a metropolitan area that more than 10% of the population of this country could point to on a map? Maybe Bemidji, since they were at the Frozen 4 a few years ago.... Tech has 3 dusty national titles, maybe that's it.
Read it again BigBlue. #7, 10 & 11 from the CCHA are Ohio State, Ann Arbor and Michigan State. WCHA #8 is Wisconsin and Penn State is the expansion team. Minnesota would be the Marquee program.
 
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Read it again BigBlue. #7, 10 & 11 from the CCHA are Ohio State, Ann Arbor and Michigan State. WCHA #8 is Wisconsin and Penn State is the expansion team. Minnesota would be the Marquee program.

Interesting that you chose to identify Minnesota as simply "Marquee program" instead of by their current standing or ranking...;)
 
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