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NESCAC season 2014-2015
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Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
Congrats to NESCAC champion Trinity Bantams!
Just drove back down the Connecticut to Old Lyme. The Editor has left for Beijing and I am scrambling to get things together for a new week. The truth is Trinity cashed their opportunities (and ticket) and Middlebury, while mounting a valiant comeback, came up short. Now their fate will be decided by others. By the by I thought the refs (Parsons and Walsh) called an outstanding game and did not let a contest between teams with no love lost for each other (lots of love taps after whistles, and I am sure various pleasantries were being exchanged) get out of their control. Things calmed down to some extent after the 1st, and at the same time the refs did not determine the outcome! Congrats to Parsons and Walsh!
Congrats to NESCAC champion Trinity Bantams!
Just drove back down the Connecticut to Old Lyme. The Editor has left for Beijing and I am scrambling to get things together for a new week. The truth is Trinity cashed their opportunities (and ticket) and Middlebury, while mounting a valiant comeback, came up short. Now their fate will be decided by others. By the by I thought the refs (Parsons and Walsh) called an outstanding game and did not let a contest between teams with no love lost for each other (lots of love taps after whistles, and I am sure various pleasantries were being exchanged) get out of their control. Things calmed down to some extent after the 1st, and at the same time the refs did not determine the outcome! Congrats to Parsons and Walsh!
HockeyEast33
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Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
I have a very deep knowledge of the value of the endowment in college athletics and also in how many schools use it as an excuse for poor facilities and performance (not suggesting that Conn is, but you are on its behalf). I'm sorry you have such a negative, martyr-ish opinion of your daughter's chosen school - apparently a poor sister school that only can dream about competing with the rich folks. What a load of c**p - give it a break - Conn is 53 out of 450 D3 schools (top 15%) in athletic spending and in the top 25% of all college endowments (including the D1 schools) and absolutely could have a better rink if they made it a priority - many lower endowment D3 schools have better facilities. St. A's for example has less than half of the endowment that Conn has and look at its rink - they simply made it a priority to find a lead donor. Conn doesn't have to apologize for deciding to place their capital campaign emphasis elsewhere, but it can't use that as an excuse for having a bad rink facility. They are a poor athletic sister to the other NESCACs because they choose to be (and out-of-proportion is subjective and meaningless - out of proportion to you I guess - but apparently not to the other schools). And I didn't go to a NESCAC school, so I'm not an Old NESCAC Boy and can't cure your feelings of inferiority on behalf of Conn.
And by the way, as Whistleboy says, winning is fun - and who doesn't want to have fun in sports (that one is for UCONN Fan)?
I have a very deep knowledge of the value of the endowment in college athletics and also in how many schools use it as an excuse for poor facilities and performance (not suggesting that Conn is, but you are on its behalf). I'm sorry you have such a negative, martyr-ish opinion of your daughter's chosen school - apparently a poor sister school that only can dream about competing with the rich folks. What a load of c**p - give it a break - Conn is 53 out of 450 D3 schools (top 15%) in athletic spending and in the top 25% of all college endowments (including the D1 schools) and absolutely could have a better rink if they made it a priority - many lower endowment D3 schools have better facilities. St. A's for example has less than half of the endowment that Conn has and look at its rink - they simply made it a priority to find a lead donor. Conn doesn't have to apologize for deciding to place their capital campaign emphasis elsewhere, but it can't use that as an excuse for having a bad rink facility. They are a poor athletic sister to the other NESCACs because they choose to be (and out-of-proportion is subjective and meaningless - out of proportion to you I guess - but apparently not to the other schools). And I didn't go to a NESCAC school, so I'm not an Old NESCAC Boy and can't cure your feelings of inferiority on behalf of Conn.
And by the way, as Whistleboy says, winning is fun - and who doesn't want to have fun in sports (that one is for UCONN Fan)?
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HockeyEast33
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Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
Not really a choke in my book. Elmira outplayed them much of the game, especially the last half - shots were 37-20 Elmira. Trinity was outshot every one of the NESCAC tourney games (even in the QF against Williams where it was 37-25) and took more penalties in each game as well - they were living a charmed life. Can't expect to win an NCAA tournament game against the no 2 team in the country getting outshot 37-20 and taking 8 penalties to 3. Ultimately, they had a power play with 3 minutes left, took a penalty to make it 4 on 4 and Elmira took advantage of their speed to tie it, and lost when Elmira got to the 5 on 4. Great season for Trinity and they should be proud.
Not really a choke in my book. Elmira outplayed them much of the game, especially the last half - shots were 37-20 Elmira. Trinity was outshot every one of the NESCAC tourney games (even in the QF against Williams where it was 37-25) and took more penalties in each game as well - they were living a charmed life. Can't expect to win an NCAA tournament game against the no 2 team in the country getting outshot 37-20 and taking 8 penalties to 3. Ultimately, they had a power play with 3 minutes left, took a penalty to make it 4 on 4 and Elmira took advantage of their speed to tie it, and lost when Elmira got to the 5 on 4. Great season for Trinity and they should be proud.
Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
So for the second season in a row there will be no NESCAC representative in the Women's DIII finals. Robert was outstanding in goal and Champagne scored twice in the 2nd (including a nifty shortie) as they led Norwich to a come from behind 3-2 win before an enthusiastic crowd at Kenyon this evening. The 1st period featured end to end, old fashioned "fire wagon" hockey with a stretch of possibly 8 minutes without a whistle. Middlebury opened the scoring when Martin and VanKula were grinding behind the Norwich net and in the right wing corner before getting the puck to Sullivan coming across the crease from Cadet goalie Robert's gloveside, fighting thru the D and putting her own rebound home with a backhand from a low, sharp angle, stickside. Norwich evened the game on a long wrist shot by Gemmiti from left point. Murphy had the puck on the left half boards, faked a shot and got tangled up with a Midd forward diving for a block; Murphy got the puck back to Gemmiti and her shot made it through traffic and beat Panther goalie Marsh high stickside. Middlebury regained the lead on a power play goal late in the period. Fluke fed off the left half boards for Watson on left point; she walked right before sliding a pass to Bielawski moving to the top of the right circle and blasting a one timer home. The momentum of the whole game turned on a Middlebury power play in the 2nd. Robert made a huge series of stops on first Sherman and then Sullivan, point blank on the door step at 7:50. Less than a minute later a Panther D was making a play to keep the puck in zone on right point in front of the Midd bench when Champange got a stick on the pass toward the left point, tipped the puck high and then grabbed it in the neutral zone and was off to the races on a clean break away. Champagne was in alone, came in from left to right, faked Marsh to the goalie's stickside, Marsh held her ground and appeared to stuff the play only to have Champagne beat her 5 hole for the score. Four minutes later it was Champagne with the game winner. DeCock made a play on the left half boards, passed to Murphy for a shot from the left circle that Marsh saved; Champagne found the rebound in traffic and buried the puck beating Marsh up gloveside from the slot. Middlebury saw a great chance fly away, literally, at 10:30 when a Watson drive from the blue line rang off the crossbar.on a power play. At 13:16 Robert made another key stop robbing Bielawski when she snuck into the slot for a feed from behind the net. Coach Mandigo went for the extra attacker following a time out with 1:59 to play and the Panthers appeared to tie the score with :30 to go after a furious battle at the top of the crease, only to have the ref, cage side on the goal line, wave the goal off. Consultation ensued and after speaking with the goal judge the no goal call stood. Norwich had taken a checking penalty in the right wing corner as the chaos at the crease was unfolding, but Middlebury, skating 6x4, never got the puck back to the net and the Cadets held on for the 3-2 victory and their ticket to play Plattsburgh next Friday.
So for the second season in a row there will be no NESCAC representative in the Women's DIII finals. Robert was outstanding in goal and Champagne scored twice in the 2nd (including a nifty shortie) as they led Norwich to a come from behind 3-2 win before an enthusiastic crowd at Kenyon this evening. The 1st period featured end to end, old fashioned "fire wagon" hockey with a stretch of possibly 8 minutes without a whistle. Middlebury opened the scoring when Martin and VanKula were grinding behind the Norwich net and in the right wing corner before getting the puck to Sullivan coming across the crease from Cadet goalie Robert's gloveside, fighting thru the D and putting her own rebound home with a backhand from a low, sharp angle, stickside. Norwich evened the game on a long wrist shot by Gemmiti from left point. Murphy had the puck on the left half boards, faked a shot and got tangled up with a Midd forward diving for a block; Murphy got the puck back to Gemmiti and her shot made it through traffic and beat Panther goalie Marsh high stickside. Middlebury regained the lead on a power play goal late in the period. Fluke fed off the left half boards for Watson on left point; she walked right before sliding a pass to Bielawski moving to the top of the right circle and blasting a one timer home. The momentum of the whole game turned on a Middlebury power play in the 2nd. Robert made a huge series of stops on first Sherman and then Sullivan, point blank on the door step at 7:50. Less than a minute later a Panther D was making a play to keep the puck in zone on right point in front of the Midd bench when Champange got a stick on the pass toward the left point, tipped the puck high and then grabbed it in the neutral zone and was off to the races on a clean break away. Champagne was in alone, came in from left to right, faked Marsh to the goalie's stickside, Marsh held her ground and appeared to stuff the play only to have Champagne beat her 5 hole for the score. Four minutes later it was Champagne with the game winner. DeCock made a play on the left half boards, passed to Murphy for a shot from the left circle that Marsh saved; Champagne found the rebound in traffic and buried the puck beating Marsh up gloveside from the slot. Middlebury saw a great chance fly away, literally, at 10:30 when a Watson drive from the blue line rang off the crossbar.on a power play. At 13:16 Robert made another key stop robbing Bielawski when she snuck into the slot for a feed from behind the net. Coach Mandigo went for the extra attacker following a time out with 1:59 to play and the Panthers appeared to tie the score with :30 to go after a furious battle at the top of the crease, only to have the ref, cage side on the goal line, wave the goal off. Consultation ensued and after speaking with the goal judge the no goal call stood. Norwich had taken a checking penalty in the right wing corner as the chaos at the crease was unfolding, but Middlebury, skating 6x4, never got the puck back to the net and the Cadets held on for the 3-2 victory and their ticket to play Plattsburgh next Friday.
Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
I could never in a million years do a PBP description such as above and I was also there, probably right next to you. Good Job. Now, from a NU fan prospective, (excuse the pun) I felt the Panthers outplayed NU in terms of SOG, crisp passing, less penalties and overall puck possession. In fact, Middlebury pretty much kept Norwich on their heels for most of the game IMO.
Not having been there for a few years, I was reminded of how nice that pond is too. I hope you all have a great summer and see you next season!
I could never in a million years do a PBP description such as above and I was also there, probably right next to you. Good Job. Now, from a NU fan prospective, (excuse the pun) I felt the Panthers outplayed NU in terms of SOG, crisp passing, less penalties and overall puck possession. In fact, Middlebury pretty much kept Norwich on their heels for most of the game IMO.
Not having been there for a few years, I was reminded of how nice that pond is too. I hope you all have a great summer and see you next season!
Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
I should probably reply with something snarky like maybe River Falls will win a game in 2015...in November, but I will be in Plattsburgh rooting for the Falcons, as everyone loves an underdog, and it would be great for DIII women's hockey if the west actually wins one of these years!
The NESCAC is the best conference, just not winning it all this season..."tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther... And one fine morning-"
GO U FALCONS!!!
I should probably reply with something snarky like maybe River Falls will win a game in 2015...in November, but I will be in Plattsburgh rooting for the Falcons, as everyone loves an underdog, and it would be great for DIII women's hockey if the west actually wins one of these years!
The NESCAC is the best conference, just not winning it all this season..."tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther... And one fine morning-"
GO U FALCONS!!!
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Bear - you are correct, there is no conference that is close to NESCAC from top to bottom. In the quarter finals, 3 of 4 games went to overtime, and the other game was a 1-0 game. In all the other conferences there are 1 or 2 good teams, then there is a drop off, looking at the box scores.
As for last night's game, I agree with NU that Middlebury controlled the game for the most part (backed by the stats) and clearly goaltending was the difference.
I also agree with you Bear that it would be good for DIII women's hockey if the West could do better than dead last as they do every year. We'll see next week. Good luck to all 4 teams, and here is to a successful and injury free weekend next week.
CrossCheck
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Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
Not comparing apples to oranges again are you chum? Inferiority complex? Yes, you seem to have a bad case.
compare nescac endowments and spending, then get back to me. as for St.A's...again, hardly a comparison vs a D2 program, backed by the Catholic Church...not to mention academics...
honestly, your comments are just laughable. Now run along and play in the road.
Not comparing apples to oranges again are you chum? Inferiority complex? Yes, you seem to have a bad case.
compare nescac endowments and spending, then get back to me. as for St.A's...again, hardly a comparison vs a D2 program, backed by the Catholic Church...not to mention academics...
honestly, your comments are just laughable. Now run along and play in the road.
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hockeyfanatic
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Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
I have been quietly reading this forum for the past eight years and am always so impressed with the detailed and very fair analysis that Obserbear posts regarding the NESCAC games. I am from the Midwest and was actually embarrassed by GoJackets comments. The NESCAC has always been a very deep conference, unlike the west conferences, but hopefully this will change in the future. Thanks Bear for you classy response regarding River Falls - Gojackets should take a page out of your book - just saying . . .
I have been quietly reading this forum for the past eight years and am always so impressed with the detailed and very fair analysis that Obserbear posts regarding the NESCAC games. I am from the Midwest and was actually embarrassed by GoJackets comments. The NESCAC has always been a very deep conference, unlike the west conferences, but hopefully this will change in the future. Thanks Bear for you classy response regarding River Falls - Gojackets should take a page out of your book - just saying . . .
dontyelldad
old n slo
Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
Yeah, my instinct was to go SNARK, but you folks have spoiled it for me.
Thanks, O'Bear. Happy St. Pat's.
Yeah, my instinct was to go SNARK, but you folks have spoiled it for me.
Thanks, O'Bear. Happy St. Pat's.
womanplayhockey
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First visit to this thread...Love the passion.
You have to remember Obserbear is most likely a SID and they're all long winded.
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gojackets
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Re: NESCAC season 2014-2015
oh I have classy responses about River Falls as well. I was just poking fun out of a conversation on another thread. I was also trying to rile-up CrossCheck but she didn't take the bait! You people need to lighten up a little bit.
oh I have classy responses about River Falls as well. I was just poking fun out of a conversation on another thread. I was also trying to rile-up CrossCheck but she didn't take the bait! You people need to lighten up a little bit.
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