Nescac 2009/2010

[hawk]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

Of the NESCAC teams I have seen Colby, Bowdoin, Middlebury, and Amherst seem close in ability. Might give the edge to Middlebury if they get there goaltending situation improves.

In reference to Middlebury I wonder if Chaz Svoboda being cut from the team has effected the offensive output of Middlebury since he was considered one of the best, if not the best offensive defensemen in the NESCAC last year. Also you have to wonder if Middlebury's decision to not recruit from the Junior A ranks is having an effect of the program. Heck even the Ivy League D1 teams recruit from Canadian and USA Junior A ranks. Further it appears to me that the overall talent level of the interlock teams has improved in recent years making it more stay on top.

 

[doncheery]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

In reference to Middlebury I wonder if Chaz Svoboda being cut from the team has effected the offensive output of Middlebury since he was considered one of the best, if not the best offensive defensemen in the NESCAC =.

Besides being incomprehensible, Charlie getting cut from Midd has no doubt had a negative impact on the team offensively. A Jr this year I think he was on the verge of a monster year. A good young man and a good citizen. Possibly his only sin being that his creativity did not mesh with Beany's paint by numbers style. Especially since Midd abandoned their Torpedo style system. Charlie being the rover had free rein.
I believe Beany knew he was going to cut him before the school year started and never gave the kid a heads up so that he could transfer or look for other educational and athletic opportunities. Seems venal. petty and says more about Beany than Charlie.

 

[OhioMule]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

Middlebury and Amherst have to be the favorites - both have 9-game unbeaten streaks going. I would give Amherst the slight edge due to the goal tending advantage. Goal tending is iffy for Middlebury - the switch to Max Kennedy is working for now but it might be premature to assume that he is the answer.

Colby's unbeaten streak is now at 11 after last night's tie at USM.

 

[jimmy d]

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Besides being incomprehensible, Charlie getting cut from Midd has no doubt had a negative impact on the team offensively. A Jr this year I think he was on the verge of a monster year. A good young man and a good citizen. Possibly his only sin being that his creativity did not mesh with Beany's paint by numbers style. Especially since Midd abandoned their Torpedo style system. Charlie being the rover had free rein.
I believe Beany knew he was going to cut him before the school year started and never gave the kid a heads up so that he could transfer or look for other educational and athletic opportunities. Seems venal. petty and says more about Beany than Charlie.

Just wondering.... where do you get this crap? Also one sentence in your Beaney bashing makes it obvious that you haven't seen Middlebury play this season. What makes you qualified to comment on negative impacts on the team or anything else for that matter?

 

[jimmy d]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

Colby's unbeaten streak is now at 11 after last night's tie at USM.

Wow, good point, and one that I had missed. I was quite impressed by the tie with Norwich... until I saw the box scores. I was equally unimpressed by the tie with St Mike's... until I saw the box scores It seems that throughout the NESCAC this season hot goaltending has trumped superior play, but what else is new? Can't wait for the head to head with MIDD, should be a GREAT GAME, and may the better team win

 

[OhioMule]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

Wow, good point, and one that I had missed. I was quite impressed by the tie with Norwich... until I saw the box scores. I was equally unimpressed by the tie with St Mike's... until I saw the box scores It seems that throughout the NESCAC this season hot goaltending has trumped superior play, but what else is new? Can't wait for the head to head with MIDD, should be a GREAT GAME, and may the better team win

Colby has been out-shot in most of their wins, relying on taking the good shots and solid goaltending. In the St. Mike's game, which I did not see, they had 49 shots on goal compared to 19 for St. Mikes. Wild guess: They were pressing in the St. Mike's end all night and gave up a few breakaways. With so few shots to handle, McKinney's head was probably not in the game. It was probably his worst game at Colby. But he came back the next night with a beauty - just 14 seconds away from shutting out the No. 2 team in D3.

The Middlebury/Williams trip in two weeks is going to be a tough one.

 

[NUProf]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

You make it sound as if Borat was calling the game. Although unusual to hear an Aussie accent calling a hockey game it is not as if he is from Kazakhstan. A volunteer, he is actually one of the better announcers in Dlll and has a passion for the game.

Do they have ice in Australia? I mean it's so darn far south and all

 

[hawk]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

Do they have ice in Australia? I mean it's so darn far south and all

http://www.iha.org.au/

Link to ice hockey in Australia. Looks like they have competitive teams too.

 

[NUProf]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

http://www.iha.org.au/

Link to ice hockey in Australia. Looks like they have competitive teams too.

Do they play in their winter or our winter, I wonder

 

[TheSnob]

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You make it sound as if Borat was calling the game. Although unusual to hear an Aussie accent calling a hockey game it is not as if he is from Kazakhstan. A volunteer, he is actually one of the better announcers in Dlll and has a passion for the game.

I'm not complaining. Henceforth, he shall no longer be dubbed the foreign guy. He does a nice job and clearly has a clue about what he is calling using proper hockey vernacular, etc. It's wierd to hear the accent at first describing the game, but it's highly listenable and it isn't laced "G'day mate" and "righto Guvnor". He is serious about what he is doing.

Wow, a volunteer?? Great catch for the Jeffs. Many of these guys are students who are Marv Albert wanabes.

 

[d3follower]

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I'm not complaining. Henceforth, he shall no longer be dubbed the foreign guy. He does a nice job and clearly has a clue about what he is calling using proper hockey vernacular, etc. It's wierd to hear the accent at first describing the game, but it's highly listenable and it isn't laced "G'day mate" and "righto Guvnor". He is serious about what he is doing.

Wow, a volunteer?? Great catch for the Jeffs. Many of these guys are students who are Marv Albert wanabes.

The other thing that is impressive about him is that he's a solo act - tough to cover a game all by yourself . .

 

[hockeyfan77]

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Do they play in their winter or our winter, I wonder

They play mostly in our Summer...The just got a promoted to DII U-20 next year beating teams like Turkey, North Korea, Chinese Taipei, Iceland, and Bulgaria,...Yes it's scary that I know this... here is the link


http://www.iihf.com/channels0910/wm20-iii

 

[Euler18]

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Bowdoin has a big roster and they seem to have inconsistent goaltending, maybe their best chance is to pull all the stops out and try to win high scoring games knowing they will give up a few goals themselves, they certainly get a lot of shots on net.

I think you're absolutely correct about the Polar Bears having to rely on their goal scorers. Their goaltending is very inconsistent once again, and therefore I believe Bowdoin's chances of doing well in the playoffs aren't good. The last team to win NESCAC with subpar goaltending was Middlebury in 2006-2007, when they relied on the magnificent offensive skills of Mickey Gilchrist and Tom Maldonado. Both Trinity in 2007-2008 and Amherst in 2008-2009 did it with outstanding goaltending. This trend is likely to continue. Thus, if you like teams from Maine, look for Colby, not Bowdoin, to do well down the stretch and into the playoffs.

 

[Mainehockeyman]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

Besides being incomprehensible, Charlie getting cut from Midd has no doubt had a negative impact on the team offensively. A Jr this year I think he was on the verge of a monster year. A good young man and a good citizen. Possibly his only sin being that his creativity did not mesh with Beany's paint by numbers style. Especially since Midd abandoned their Torpedo style system. Charlie being the rover had free rein.
I believe Beany knew he was going to cut him before the school year started and never gave the kid a heads up so that he could transfer or look for other educational and athletic opportunities. Seems venal. petty and says more about Beany than Charlie.

I don't know if you have your own special agenda or if you just have a personal vendetta against coach Beaney for some reason, but your post makes you seem like a complete @s$.

It seems to me that you have no facts to back up your statement, if you do, please enlighten me and I will refute my statement.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

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Besides being incomprehensible, Charlie getting cut from Midd has no doubt had a negative impact on the team offensively. A Jr this year I think he was on the verge of a monster year. A good young man and a good citizen. Possibly his only sin being that his creativity did not mesh with Beany's paint by numbers style. Especially since Midd abandoned their Torpedo style system. Charlie being the rover had free rein.
I believe Beany knew he was going to cut him before the school year started and never gave the kid a heads up so that he could transfer or look for other educational and athletic opportunities. Seems venal. petty and says more about Beany than Charlie.

I would just like to point out, before I say anything, that I know absolutely nothing as fact or not. I'm just speculating here...

IMO, a much more likely possibility is that Beany cut him from the team for a different reason. If you read the Norwich thread, some of us have been discussing a tendency amongst the better coaches in DIII (of which Beany is certainly one) to mandate a strict level of discipline, both on and off the ice, of all their players. I believe that it is much more likely that Svoboda was cut from the team for disciplinary reasons.

As I said before, I don't know what did or did not happen, but I think this is a MUCH more likely possibility than Beany cutting him because of some petty difference or whatever. If it really were because Svoboda didn't fit into his plans, I think even Beany would have given him the chance to transfer.

 

[TheSnob]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

Say what??? "Lord Jeff" is one of the most un-PC monikers going. He was a British general whose chief claim to fame (besides Amherst College being named after him) is the following (as per wikipedia) :

Well, when it you put it that way, the Lord Jeff nickname is right up there with the ND Fighting Souix and Washington Redskins.

 

[Jim]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

I saw Wesleyan-Amherst last Friday, and I have to say that it looked like the teams were in the wrong uniforms...Wesleyan really did dominate play. If I didn't know the standings, I'd have absolutley assumed that the Cards were the team challenging for the leage lead and Amherst was the also ran.

 

[TheSnob]

Re: Nescac 2009/2010

I saw Wesleyan-Amherst last Friday, and I have to say that it looked like the teams were in the wrong uniforms...Wesleyan really did dominate play. If I didn't know the standings, I'd have absolutley assumed that the Cards were the team challenging for the leage lead and Amherst was the also ran.

Jim:

I think you are referring to ConColl who played Amherst to a 2-2 tie on Friday Jan 15. Yes?

 

[d3follower]

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I saw Wesleyan-Amherst last Friday, and I have to say that it looked like the teams were in the wrong uniforms...Wesleyan really did dominate play. If I didn't know the standings, I'd have absolutley assumed that the Cards were the team challenging for the leage lead and Amherst was the also ran.

Or were you watching Wesleyan play Williams??? Whatever game you watched on Friday, it certainly did not involve Wes and Amherst.

 

[WillieC]

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I would just like to point out, before I say anything, that I know absolutely nothing as fact or not. I'm just speculating here...

IMO, a much more likely possibility is that Beany cut him from the team for a different reason. If you read the Norwich thread, some of us have been discussing a tendency amongst the better coaches in DIII (of which Beany is certainly one) to mandate a strict level of discipline, both on and off the ice, of all their players. I believe that it is much more likely that Svoboda was cut from the team for disciplinary reasons.

As I said before, I don't know what did or did not happen, but I think this is a MUCH more likely possibility than Beany cutting him because of some petty difference or whatever. If it really were because Svoboda didn't fit into his plans, I think even Beany would have given him the chance to transfer.

Well said. I usually subscribe to the adage that there are always 4 sides to a story like this: the truth, Beaney's story, Svoboda's story and stories that others who know little or nothing make up. Then there are those of us who know little or nothing and refrain from speculation (sadly, not a widely practiced habit on this board).

What Chaz's departure has had for an impact is certainly open to debate. Although he had a 22 point season last year he contibution was minimal the second half of the season, 7 points in the last 10 games, including no points in the last 3 games that involved Amherst and Williams in the key NESCAC playoffs. This is nothing against Charlie, he may be a fine human being (but I don't know that either since I don't know him) but why he is not on the roster currently is known only to a few...and I doubt any of them inhabit this venue.