nCoV 2019-2020 Outbreak

[Kepler]

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So does mine ... BUT...

If you're out five consecutive days, don't you flip to short term disability? Does your company pay 100% salary for STD? Mine does NOT!

With my company you need medical proof and it's 2 weeks. STD is part of your elective insurance package so you get what you paid for (I elected 90%).

 

[alfablue]

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We travel a lot, and are on ships a lot (which IMHO get a bad wrap for all viruses, especially since planes never, ever do- and they are disgusting). Our cruise line has just announced a policy of "Cruise with Confidence" allowing people who are nervous to cancel up to 48 hours in advance- getting a future cruise credit as payment. Makes sense, as I see on those message boards how nervous many people are.

Now I hope to get some very cheap upgrades.

 

[leswp1]

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That is how I lived before coronavirus. The thing that has changed is the GOP and all portions of the government they control are now even stupider than the population.



Had no idea there was one. The original is so perfect I worry it will ruin it. I'm glad Goldman died before trying to write Buttercup's Baby.

The thing that has changed is all these cognitively impaired people are vectors.

I'm not burning my PTO so I guess I'll just be spreading my germs to my office. I will also be attending every event at Corporate that is scheduled, as well as scheduling my skip levels and requesting close mentoring from the highest placed executive I qualify for.

I feel that strongly about synergies.

I love this plan. I recommend informing people you know they respect people who 'work through it' as you sniffle and cough.
Book so far is slow going.

Five CASES of TP? Self-quarantine will last two weeks. Maybe four. We don’t go through that much TP in a year.

But- if you are ill you need to quarantine after you finish symptoms and if the family gets it sequentially then do the math. I saw ads for cloth wipes.... ew

With my company you need medical proof and it's 2 weeks. STD is part of your elective insurance package so you get what you paid for (I elected 90%).

Watch for all of them who try to make them use FMLA. Comcast and the local corrections facilities used to make patients get a note for every incidence and Comcast tried to force us to fill out FMLA for every absence- illegal- and made it so the patient was maxed out before they really needed to use it.

 

[Scarlet]

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We get FTO to be used for both illness and vacation. We can work from home, in fact my team pretty much does so on Fridays. If I decide to stay home because I'm feeling kinda crappy but I work from home all day, I don't take any time for that. If I'm indeed sick and sleep all day, then I'll have to be charged a day off.

With regards to short term disability, I can only speak from my experience when I had my ankle surgery. The first five days of leave you have to take FTO. Then it's up to 8 weeks at 100% and after that you get 1 week for each year you've been with the company and then it winds up being 2/3 of your salary. Or something like that. I was only out for five and a half weeks and got full pay. They did not accrue any FTO time, though.

 

[BassAle]

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Yeah. We switched to PTO along with the rest of the world. No shock there. I've been working all week while home sick. Fun stuff.

We have separate vacation and sick time (and a pool of floating holidays in addition to the fixed holidays)

Right now I've got 3 months of sick time banked (our company used to allow unlimited sick time accrual, but it was a big liability on the books so they capped it at 3 months and then paid for long term disability insurance for everyone).

I'll still work from home when I'm sick unless I feel so ****ty I don't want to get out of bed. Most of the time I don't feel so bad that I can't put in a reasonable effort at work and I just stay home so I don't infect my coworkers. I'd rather be able to put in a 50-80% effort when I don't feel well vs take the day off and like I'm behind on projects.

 

[joecct]

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Washington:

If you work for the federal government you get 13 paid sick days per year with unlimited carryover. When you retire, half of the balance is credited to your time worked.

 

[Kepler]

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Washington:

If you work for the federal government you get 13 paid sick days per year with unlimited carryover. When you retire, half of the balance is credited to your time worked.

Carryover is not unlimited. Dr. Mrs. has so much cached she has had to use or lose several times over the years.

USG also allows you to donate your sick days to co-workers in need, which is great. I can see Corporate America having an aneurysm right now. Refund?! Refund?!!!

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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With my company you need medical proof and it's 2 weeks. STD is part of your elective insurance package so you get what you paid for (I elected 90%).

Until this year, my company didn't even offer STD expansion as an elective. Seriously. They offered STD at 70% your salary for free. That was it. This year, they offered an option to buy the other 30% protection (which I did, because it's quite inexpensive). Don't get me started with them not even giving me the option to buy up in the past.

Nonetheless, my real point is a lot of people (and I'm only counting those who have benefits) are not going to forego salary (there are still a lot of people, even well off workers, who live paycheck to paycheck, some not even putting enough away in their 401K) for any sort of extended quarantine. They will just lie and go to work. Companies are not going to "play their part" in helping out in any sort of way to contain any kind of epidemic.

Sometimes, society sucks.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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Washington:

If you work for the federal government you get 13 paid sick days per year with unlimited carryover. When you retire, half of the balance is credited to your time worked.

My grandfather worked for the City of New York. When he retired, he had 180 sick days accrued. So, he technically retired six months after the day he actually stopped working.

 

[Kepler]

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Until this year, my company didn't even offer STD expansion as an elective. Seriously. They offered STD at 70% your salary for free. That was it. This year, they offered an option to buy the other 30% protection (which I did, because it's quite inexpensive). Don't get me started with them not even giving me the option to buy up in the past.

Nonetheless, my real point is a lot of people (and I'm only counting those who have benefits) are not going to forego salary (there are still a lot of people, even well off workers, who live paycheck to paycheck, some not even putting enough away in their 401K) for any sort of extended quarantine. They will just lie and go to work. Companies are not going to "play their part" in helping out in any sort of way to contain any kind of epidemic.

Sometimes, society sucks.

STD and LTD are still very good deals if you have a decent package. The expected value is negligible for the insurer so they can afford to be "generous." I think the add-on premium to push my STD from 70% to 90% is something like $23.

Per year.

Just another example that the rich get richer. Our package is great but our salary structure is great, too. Meanwhile people who work for the American median are shoved into junk packages that cover nothing catastrophic.

Eat the rich. We're healthy.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

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STD and LTD are still very good deals if you have a decent package.

That is true. And I have no problem with LTD not being 100%. That I get because LTD could last a very, very long time. Like years. And that is there mainly to be able to keep you head above water if you become disabled.

 

[Kepler]

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That is true. And I have no problem with LTD not being 100%. That I get because LTD could last a very, very long time. Like years. And that is there mainly to be able to keep you head above water if you become disabled.

Yes.

STD is to maintain all your current commitments. LTD is to keep up your mortgage payments; the rest you have to adjust. I am fine with that.

 

[Kepler]

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Apart from everything else, he's just a POS.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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So does mine ... BUT...

If you're out five consecutive days, don't you flip to short term disability? Does your company pay 100% salary for STD? Mine does NOT!

Yes, we have several weeks of STD @ 100% an a **** ton @ 60% and then there's long term. Plus we, and everyone else, has FMLA. Obviously FMLA isn't a real option for everyone because you don't get paid, but at least you keep your job.

Mandatory sick leave and NOT PTO should be a law. We'd save so much money to to lost productivity because Jan in Accounting had to come in sick and now half the company is sick.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Interesting thread

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the last 24 hours, I’ve spoken to lots of sources on the Hill and in the White House and I’ve become convinced that Washington’s response to coronavirus is going to be a massive massive story.</p>— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1235998629732790275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Interesting thread

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the last 24 hours, I’ve spoken to lots of sources on the Hill and in the White House and I’ve become convinced that Washington’s response to coronavirus is going to be a massive massive story.</p>— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1235998629732790275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I mean, the first tweet is interesting, but the rest of the thread seems kind of on a different topic. More about what washington has done or will have to do, not necessarily how bad the story is going to be for the Trump administration.

Here's the thing, this will blow up in their face. This is going to cause a recession. This is going to kill thousands if not tens of thousands of Americans. Then Baghdad Trump kept proclaiming publicly this isn't a big deal until people were dying. We've got people in blue states dying right now and there is a lot of great things Democrats have done in California, New York, and Washington. Wait until this hits the Deep South and Texas. Texas is going to be absolutely overwhelmed. THe Deep South has ****ing gutted their poor health care and never provided Medicaid expansions. Those are the areas that are going to be hit hardest.

Between the people dying in the streets and the pending recession, this has absolutely torpedoed his chance at re-election as long as the ****ing Democrats wise up and act like adults. Don't give him a chance to parlay the blame. Don't act like children and tie things up politically, just get things done. It's already too late to stop the virus, maybe there's a silver lining here, but until we get to the end of this pandemic, it's going to be ugly.

 

[leswp1]

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Apart from everything else, he's just a POS.

Pretty sure they would rather have him stay far far away.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I mean, the first tweet is interesting, but the rest of the thread seems kind of on a different topic. More about what washington has done or will have to do, not necessarily how bad the story is going to be for the Trump administration.

Here's the thing, this will blow up in their face. This is going to cause a recession. This is going to kill thousands if not tens of thousands of Americans. Then Baghdad Trump kept proclaiming publicly this isn't a big deal until people were dying. We've got people in blue states dying right now and there is a lot of great things Democrats have done in California, New York, and Washington. Wait until this hits the Deep South and Texas. Texas is going to be absolutely overwhelmed. THe Deep South has ****ing gutted their poor health care and never provided Medicaid expansions. Those are the areas that are going to be hit hardest.

Between the people dying in the streets and the pending recession, this has absolutely torpedoed his chance at re-election as long as the ****ing Democrats wise up and act like adults. Don't give him a chance to parlay the blame. Don't act like children and tie things up politically, just get things done. It's already too late to stop the virus, maybe there's a silver lining here, but until we get to the end of this pandemic, it's going to be ugly.

That’s the thing, the media and dems need to make this a story about the total lack of leadership and coordination from the WH.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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That’s the thing, the media and dems need to make this a story about the total lack of leadership and coordination from the WH.

100% agree.

 

[leswp1]

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That’s the thing, the media and dems need to make this a story about the total lack of leadership and coordination from the WH.

read the comments on anything that is presenting facts. These idiots need more people to die before they pay attention. And they will have to die in their neighborhoods or it is fake news. (Not kidding n the least)