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NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

Brenthoven said:
But were the refs allowed to see that angle?

IIRC, in the WCHA, only the overhead shot is allowed.

And this overhead shot was not conclusive to overturn the on-ice call. Period.
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In CCHA play during the REGULAR SEASON only the over-head look is allowed as well. However, this isn't the WCHA or CCHA regular season. This is the NCAA Tournament where each and every game has multiple angles available to it. So to answer your question, yes the down ice view is allowed. You could actually see the ref's looking at it during the 10-minute delay.

I'm also frustrated with the delay in the game. I would have been more upset with it had it been called no-goal and uno went on to win the game. Hey that happened last year in the Regional final to Michigan against Miami. That was clearly a goal but called no-goal and Miami went on to win the game. That blown call last year had nothing to do with the call today but these things all end up evening out.

If I was a uno fan, first I'd pistol whip myself for being their fan, and second yes I'd be disspleased with the result. But that's the way the puck bounces.
 
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Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

But that's the way the puck bounces.
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No, that's not the "way the puck bounces." It's called terrible officiating.

How can you stop the game for that long a duration then say it was a goal? It either is or it isn't. There is no "probably" and "likely." I agree with most on here -- there was no angle showing it was in, no matter how probable it was that it crossed the line.

I don't care about either team at all, but the game should not have ended on that decision.
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

UMICH said:
In CCHA play during the REGULAR SEASON only the over-head look is allowed as well. Howeve, this isn't the WCHA or CCHA regular season. This is the NCAA Tournament where each and every game has multiple angles available to it. So to answer your question yes the down ice view is allowed. You could actually see the ref's looking at it during the 10-minute delay.

I'm also frustrated with the delay in the game. I would have been more upset with it had it been called no-goal and uno went on to win the game. Hey that happened last year in the Regional final to Michigan against Miami. That was clearly a goal but called no-goal and Miami went on to win the game. That blown call last year had nothing to do with the call today but these things all end up evening out.

If I was a uno fan, first I'd pistol whip myself for being their fan, and second yes I'd be disspleased with the result. But that's the way the puck bounces.
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So why wasn't that view used on ESPN?
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

Brenthoven said:
And this overhead shot was not conclusive to overturn the on-ice call. Period.
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I didn't think it was conclusive enough (or really even a goal) until the last time they showed the replay (just to be clear, I'm only talking about the overhead view). Once you know where to look, you can see the puck under his skate blade, completely over the line, as he's kicking it out. You kind of need to watch in reverse slow motion to see where the puck came from, and that makes it easier to distinguish between his pad and the puck.
 
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HockeyMan2000 said:
Pathetic call. How can you stop the game for that long a duration then say it was a goal? It either is or it isn't. There is no "probably" and "likely." I agree with most on here -- there was no angle showing it was in, no matter how probable it was that it crossed the line.

I don't care about either team, but the game should not have ended on that decision....really bad call.
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On one hand, I agree with EJ Hradek's take. I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the puck was in the net.

But...

That is still an assumption. There was no DEFINITIVE proof that it was in the net. Given that you should have proof that the puck is behind the line before you overturn a call, that should be all that matters. There may be a lot of times when a referee needs to make some assumptions and judgement calls, but the review of a potential goal is NOT one of those times.
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
On one hand, I agree with EJ Hradek's take. I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the puck was in the net.

But...

That is still an assumption. There was no DEFINITIVE proof that it was in the net. Given that you should have proof that the puck is behind the line before you overturn a call, that should be all that matters. There may be a lot of times when a referee needs to make some assumptions and judgement calls, but the review of a potential goal is NOT one of those times.
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Agreed.
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

Meanwhile CC is destroying BC 4-1 after 1.
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

Hits, turnovers, hard skating, and big goals man that's playoff hockey I'm at half mast just watching this game!
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

ESPNU just spot-shadowed the replay. Clearly the puck was partially across. But again, not clearly 100% across the line, thereby making the on-ice call the call they should have made.
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

Brenthoven said:
ESPNU just spot-shadowed the replay. Clearly the puck was partially across. But again, not clearly 100% across the line, thereby making the on-ice call the call they should have made.
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Yep, and they ripped the refs for allowing the goal. I'm with many of you - there's no way the call on the ice should have been overturned.
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

It'll stun me if anyone other than a Michigan fan argues that was a "conclusive" replay to overturn the call on the ice. Maybe some UNO hater might ... but as much as I think Dean Blais is a jerk and have seen only one UNO fan on the interwebs that didn't look like a complete bumpkin whackjob from loserville ... I wouldn't argue it. So as much as it pains me ... that play shouldn't have been called a goal.
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

Brenthoven said:
ESPNU just spot-shadowed the replay. Clearly the puck was partially across. But again, not clearly 100% across the line, thereby making the on-ice call the call they should have made.
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What a gong show, if the rules are easy enough for me to understand clearly a team of NCAA officials should be able to interpret them :rolleyes:. Good news is that the WCHA isn't the only league that pulled idiots from their villages to wear skates and make calls.

Coincidence:

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I don't think so.
 
Re: NCAA West Regional - 3/25, 3/26 - BC, Michigan, UNO, CC

Joke call to eliminate Nebraska-Omaha. Inexcusable without 100% evidence to overrule that.
 
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