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NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

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EAST
1. Utica 20-4-1 20-4-1
2. Norwich 16-2-1 21-2-1
3. Hobart 19-4-2 19-4-2
4. Bowdoin 19-3-2 19-3-2
5. Oswego State 20-4-0 21-4-0
6. Babson 11-4-5 14-6-5
7. Williams 14-5-3 15-6-3
8. Neumann 15-6-3 16-6-3
9. Trinity (Conn.) 12-6-3 14-6-3
10. Amherst 14-6-2 15-6-3
11. UMass-Boston 14-4-2 18-5-2
12. Castleton 12-7-1 14-9-2
13. Plattsburgh State 17-6-1 18-6-1
14. Manhattanville 13-9-3 13-9-3
15. Middlebury 12-10-2 12-10-2
16. Plymouth State 15-6-1 17-6-1
WEST
1. Wisconsin-Eau Claire 19-4-2 19-4-2
2. St. Norbert 21-5-1 21-5-1
3. Adrian 19-1-3 21-1-3
4. Wisconsin-Stevens Point 15-11-1 15-11-1
5. Wisconsin-River Falls 13-10-4 13-10-4
6. St. Scholastica 13-13-1 13-13-1
7. Gustavus Adolphus 14-7-2 15-7-3
8. Saint John's (Minn.) 14-7-4 14-7-4

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/icehockey-men/d3/diii_regional_rankings
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

Neumann is an interesting case. How high could they rise by beating both Hobart and Utica to win the ECAC-W tournament? I am not looking at their numbers at the moment, but any chance they could then be in play for a Pool C bid?
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

sshablak said:
Oswego better be concerned !! Hobart jumps.
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It's pretty well known that Oswego needs to win the SUNYAC tourney to get in. Their chances of a Pool C are very small. If Hobart/Utica make it to the ECAC W title game, they'll both get Pool C's. They may both get them anyway. SOS and RNK are both much better than Oswego's.
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

Plattsburgh State is the Al Gore of the NCAA polls ! Using the 5 main criteria, the Cards are tied with Neumann, Castleton, Trinity, Mass-Boston and BEAT Williams, Amherst and Oswego.

In some cases, the Cards have better W/L, SOS and RNK !!! Oh well, they may be one of the hottest teams in the country (9 out of last 10) and are using this for extra fuel. Imagine beating a team twice, having a tougher SOS and a better record against ranked....and being 8 spots behind them in the polls ?????
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

admiral0417 said:
Plattsburgh State is the Al Gore of the NCAA polls ! Using the 5 main criteria, the Cards are tied with Neumann, Castleton, Trinity, Mass-Boston and BEAT Williams, Amherst and Oswego.

In some cases, the Cards have better W/L, SOS and RNK !!! Oh well, they may be one of the hottest teams in the country (9 out of last 10) and are using this for extra fuel. Imagine beating a team twice, having a tougher SOS and a better record against ranked....and being 8 spots behind them in the polls ?????
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Imagine that same team doesn't lose to Fredonia, Geneseo, Castleton, Norwich, Middlebury, Amherst, and tie Cortland. Plattsburgh is right where they deserve. They can beat anyone in the country on a given night......and they can lose to almost anyone on any given night. Any rank below #5 is a waste of energy at this point anyway. 8, 10, 12, 15.....it doesn't change what the Cardinals have to do. Heck, Oswego is #5 and most of us believe they have no shot at a Pool C bid.
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

spwood said:
Imagine that same team doesn't lose to Fredonia, Geneseo, Castleton, Norwich, Middlebury, Amherst, and tie Cortland. Plattsburgh is right where they deserve. They can beat anyone in the country on a given night......and they can lose to almost anyone on any given night. Any rank below #5 is a waste of energy at this point anyway. 8, 10, 12, 15.....it doesn't change what the Cardinals have to do. Heck, Oswego is #5 and most of us believe they have no shot at a Pool C bid.
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Especially if they beat Plattsburgh ;)
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

Are they supposed to go undefeated?? Every team has a loss here and there that they shouldn't have. There's no shame losing 1-goal games to Norwich, Amherst and even Midd and Geneseo. OK, a loss to Fredonia and a tie to Cortland weren't good. I just don't understand the logic behind some of this (if any).

I am fully aware of how the system works. And if I thought we were ranked where we should be, I wouldn't have wasted my time posting. But thanks anyway.
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

For all but a very very few teams in the post season, it's one and done from here on out. As Prof has said (and I paraphrase badly), if you're in an AQ conference and you need Pool C to make the tournament, you're playing with fire.
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

At this point it doesn't matter if Oswego and Plattsburgh are ranked 5th and 13th or 55th and 73rd neither is likely to make the NCAA's without winning the SUNYAC. I think both teams would have been in good shape with, for Oswego another win or two vs. RNK and for Platty without the loss to Freddy and the tie of Cortland. I feel as long as the numbers were close for either they would get into the NCAA's based on the potential for decent attendance at Lake Placid if one or both of them made it their. At this point the numbers just aren't close enough to make that happen so their fates are in their own hands now.
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

I'm obviously a University of Saint Thomas fan and I know we haven't had the best season but I see we are not ranked by either poll (yet) even though we beat Saint Johns twice and Gustavus Adolphus twice this year and they are ranked in the NCAA west rankings today. I guess it must be our strength of schedule (or lack of). Maybe will serve as some kind of motivation to our players if they or the coaches pay attention to that. They say they don't though...Just wondering what others think??
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

I'm not sure I understand the NCAA poll any better than the USCHO poll.
Stevens Point are ranked 4th in the West when they have already been eliminated from the NCHA playoffs by the team ranked 5th.
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

NorthernLite said:
I'm not sure I understand the NCAA poll any better than the USCHO poll.
Stevens Point are ranked 4th in the West when they have already been eliminated from the NCHA playoffs by the team ranked 5th.
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Code: 
    Wisconsin-River Falls vs Wisconsin-Stevens Point
WIN      0.5556  0           0.5741  1
SOS      0.5397  0           0.5758  1
H2H     1- 3- 1  0          3- 1- 1  1
COP     6- 7- 3  1          7- 9- 0  0
RNK     4- 9- 2  0          7- 9- 1  1
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PTS              1                   4
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PWR              4                   6

Conference playoff games count the same as regular season games, and UWSP still torches UWRF under the criteria.
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

offside said:
I'm obviously a University of Saint Thomas fan and I know we haven't had the best season but I see we are not ranked by either poll (yet) even though we beat Saint Johns twice and Gustavus Adolphus twice this year and they are ranked in the NCAA west rankings today. I guess it must be our strength of schedule (or lack of). Maybe will serve as some kind of motivation to our players if they or the coaches pay attention to that. They say they don't though...Just wondering what others think??
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The Poll only takes on meaning for teams with a shot at Pool C.
St Thomas can and will be in Toournament discussion if they are MIAC champions.
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

We all are unhappy when our respected teams are not ranked as high as we feel they should be. I am obviously a die hard laker fan and have to admit plattsburgh in 13th place is tough to stomach.
last nite Bowdoin got spanked by Trinity college 10 to 5 anf bowdoin moves into 4th place.
Oh well i guess they believe the eastern and new england teams are better than our teams in our conf. RIGHT//////
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

lakont55 said:
We all are unhappy when our respected teams are not ranked as high as we feel they should be. I am obviously a die hard laker fan and have to admit plattsburgh in 13th place is tough to stomach.
last nite Bowdoin got spanked by Trinity college 10 to 5 anf bowdoin moves into 4th place.
Oh well i guess they believe the eastern and new england teams are better than our teams in our conf. RIGHT//////
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I believe the rankings were done Monday before the Bowdoin - Trinity game. The results are announced on Tuesday.
 
Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

Dyce said:
Code: 
    Wisconsin-River Falls vs Wisconsin-Stevens Point
WIN      0.5556  0           0.5741  1
SOS      0.5397  0           0.5758  1
H2H     1- 3- 1  0          3- 1- 1  1
COP     6- 7- 3  1          7- 9- 0  0
RNK     4- 9- 2  0          7- 9- 1  1
============================================
PTS              1                   4
============================================
PWR              4                   6

Conference playoff games count the same as regular season games, and UWSP still torches UWRF under the criteria.
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I think the torch for UWSP was extinguished on Saturday........so these comparisons have little to do with anything.

I could understand ranking one or both if in so doing the committee believed it would help the cause of a team with the potential for Pool C consideration.
 
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Re: NCAA Rankings 2/19/13

Hey, it ain't all bad. At least the Cards moved ahead of the team with a 1-8-3 record against ranked teams !!!
 
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