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NC$$ Title: Clarkson vs Wisconsin

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I apologize for nothing. The headline sucked.

I agree. But I was not responding to the headline. I was responding to his posting of the headline and his accompanying comments and, consequently, what I believed his intent was.
 
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Unless I'm misreading this which I don't think I am, it appears HE33 should have used some kind of emoticon to indicate sarcasm for a couple of you. ;)

I think HE33 was expressing a little butthurt over perceived lack of respect for Eastern teams. He is not entirely wrong but also a tad over-sensitive. There was some whining about UW not playing their best game or at their usual power, which is ridiculous for not crediting CU for the job they did but he also seemed to take offense to some fairly innocuous comments that appear to have not been as praise filled as he would have liked (it seems to me).

I thought UW dominated play and certainly shot total but CU did a good job of squelching some of their attempts while turning their fewer chances into better attempts. Tiley did a great job. OTOH goalies almost always get too much blame & too much credit for the work the skaters do. She for sure deserved a star as she handled everything that came her way & that is all you can ever ask.
 
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People doing the east/west thing is not my favorite feature of the forum, but a lot of people love it, so more power to 'em.

I recall no disrespect directed Clarkson's way either before or after the Frozen Four. Gopher fans knew what Clarkson was capable of as I think most people did. Wisconsin was #1 all year and was the favorite and many watched the game from that perspective.

Last year we lost posters here in the aftermath of the championship game and I was bummed in the way that deteriorated. We can take all the BC fans we can get on this forum it seems to me, as well as all the fans of any team, and women's hockey in general. People gotta state their opinions, and the aftermath of the Frozen Four is one of the best times to celebrate the game. And from what I've seen, the fans of the winning and losing teams have been gracious, and respectful while saying what they think they saw in the games and have given the players the respect they have earned.
 
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Say, did you ever get a visit in to the psyche ward? You seem kind of agitated...Course maybe that's just hangover effect from all the thinner you consumed. :)

I liked your phrase so I added it as my signature...

I feel honored to be in 2 people's sigs on this site, at least some folks appreciate my unique blending of mostly facts and a little flame. For the record I DO apologize for mis-spelling Kazmaier.

It is very ironic that my sister is an psychiatrist who specializes in eating disorders, isn't it? And she went along so I had all the back-up I needed. She is very concerned about the liver.....

Anyway, I'm not at all bitter about the loss, that is the way it goes. And Clarkson is a likeable enough team to lose to. I would have been bitter about losing to the rodents AGAIN or BC. I would hate to have UW feed TTT a slice of hope about BC's hopeless interiority to the top WCHA teams.
 
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We can't have it both ways, celebrating ARD's greatness because she piled up 10-save shutouts where her biggest obstacle was not freezing to death while trying to track the puck from 200 feet, while complaining that Tiley's 40-something shutout wasn't all that. It's a short list of goalies who have recorded a shutout in an NCAA Championship game: Vetter, Martin, Tiley, and unless I'm forgetting someone, that's it.
 
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Just because you mentioned her ARM, Martin's game vs UNH where she did give up a goal, but still had near 50 saves killed me that year! That was our best team IMHO......
 
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Just because you mentioned her ARM, Martin's game vs UNH where she did give up a goal, but still had near 50 saves killed me that year! That was our best team IMHO......
She gave up two in that game, but it was still one of the best goalie performances I've seen. The ice seemed tilted for long stretches.
 
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Just because you mentioned her ARM, Martin's game vs UNH where she did give up a goal, but still had near 50 saves killed me that year! That was our best team IMHO......

If you are referring to the 2008 semi final game that was something else. One of the most memorable hockey games I have ever witnessed. How UMD withstood the vicious UNH onslaught was a miracle with Fridfinnson eventually scoring for UMD to relieve some of the pressure. That was one powerful UNH team that year.

That was the Championship Game, not the one that followed two days later.
 
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If you are referring to the 2008 semi final game that was something else. One of the most memorable hockey games I have ever witnessed. How UMD withstood the vicious UNH onslaught was a miracle with Fridfinnson eventually scoring for UMD to relieve some of the pressure. That was one powerful UNH team that year.

That was the Championship Game, not the one that followed two days later.
Almost every year at least one poster states that one of the 2 semifinals was the "true" championship game, which immediately dismisses and belittles the other team that made the championship game. Comments like this are just another reason that there is some discord between posters here.

Sean
 
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BTN won't load on my computer or phone so far. This sucks that the game isn't being broadcast on NCAA.com. Anyone have any suggestions on how to watch this game?
How times have changed in just 3 years. Then many here posted complaints that the championship game was only being streamed on NCAA.com and was not on TV (BTN even being mentioned).

Sean
 
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How times have changed in just 3 years. Then many here posted complaints that the championship game was only being streamed on NCAA.com and was not on TV (BTN even being mentioned).

Sean

Yes, be careful what you wish for! Definitely an double-edged sword. People think it an issue of respect and possible growth of the game to have the event televised. Also, probably better production values. But it is likely to be put on a station like BTN or ESPNU that everybody does not get.

Most of the streams can be returned to and watched again which is nice for us big fans! The NCAA.com frozen four games have tended to be archived for about three years and free. I don't think the commentary was always the greatest..lol. (I tend to synch them with our Gopher play by play guy when I can.)
 
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For those trying to replay the game on BTN2Go, your cable company must offer the Big Ten Network and you must subscribe to the channel. Otherwise, find a friend who does and piggy back.
 
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Almost every year at least one poster states that one of the 2 semifinals was the "true" championship game, which immediately dismisses and belittles the other team that made the championship game. Comments like this are just another reason that there is some discord between posters here.

Sean

Yeah, I thought that someone might take it that way but that was not my intent when I posted that comment. My intent was simply to point out that it was by far a better, more well played, exciting, thrill packed game than the one that followed two days later. From there I suppose people can draw whatever other conclusions that they wish.
 
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Hi everyone, it's been a long time since I have been here, but I wanted to make a few observations. All of this, of course, is my own opinion.

ARD deserved the PK award. 'Nuff said.
Tiley was the better goalie in the championship game. She made the stops that she had to make (Nurse's breakaway, etc.). She gave up a number of rebounds but, whether by design or by luck, the rebounds were directed away from whichever Badger was coming towards the net.
It seemed that WI spent more time in their offensive zone than anywhere else. For whatever reason, WI wasn't able to capitalize on their chances.
For being the #2 scoring team this season, Clarkson came into the game with a methodical approach which obviously worked. Maybe that's how they normally play, but it's not like there is a ton of tv coverage where I could see that in action.
WI didn't lose, Clarkson won.
 
Re: NC$$ Title: Clarkson vs Wisconsin

Hi everyone, it's been a long time since I have been here, but I wanted to make a few observations. All of this, of course, is my own opinion.

ARD deserved the PK award. 'Nuff said.AMEN
Tiley was the better goalie in the championship game. And she is not getting enough credit for being positioned where she needed to be in that game. I don't think she was caught out of position once in the Championship game. She was square to the shooter, was at the top of the crease when needed to cut down the angles and she closed the 5 hole when the shot required it to be. She made the stops that she had to make (Nurse's breakaway, etc.). She gave up a number of rebounds but, whether by design or by luck, the rebounds were directed away from whichever Badger was coming towards the net. And Clarkson's dmen and forwards cleared a number of rebounds from the slot
It seemed that WI spent more time in their offensive zone than anywhere else. For whatever reason, WI wasn't able to capitalize on their chances.
For being the #2 scoring team this season, Clarkson came into the game with a methodical approach which obviously worked. Maybe that's how they normally play, but it's not like there is a ton of tv coverage where I could see that in action. Actually if you followed Clarkson, all their home games and a number of road games (Colgate/Quinnipiac) were free video on the internet. This is exactly their approach except during the Regular Season they were rarely out shot and spent much more time in the opponents offensive zone than what happened in the title game. Rushes by the defensemen (Harmon especially), Odd man rushes, cycle the puck in the corners until someone gets open in the slot or at the points is their methodical approach. You saw it in the semifinal and in the title game, just not as much as occurred in the regular season.
WI didn't lose, Clarkson won. Yes sir:)

see my comments in bold
 
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Yeah, I thought that someone might take it that way but that was not my intent when I posted that comment. My intent was simply to point out that it was by far a better, more well played, exciting, thrill packed game than the one that followed two days later. From there I suppose people can draw whatever other conclusions that they wish.
Yes, and instead of calling it the "Championship Game," you could have posted what your wrote here. Your comment also bring up the point that many times the championship game in any sport is not as well played, exciting, thrill packed, etc., than an earlier tournament game.

Sean
 
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Geez I leave the forum for two seconds and everyone starts fighting. Shouldn't that work the other way around?
 
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Yes, and instead of calling it the "Championship Game," you could have posted what your wrote here. Your comment also bring up the point that many times the championship game in any sport is not as well played, exciting, thrill packed, etc., than an earlier tournament game.

Sean

Yes, and the first two games that came to my mind were the 2013 Minnesota quarterfinal and semifinal games against North Dakota and BC. To say they were tense doesn't quite give them their due.
 
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Yes, be careful what you wish for! Definitely an double-edged sword. People think it an issue of respect and possible growth of the game to have the event televised. Also, probably better production values. But it is likely to be put on a station like BTN or ESPNU that everybody does not get.

I've never minded having the games streamed. In this day and age, I still find it a little amazing how many people find it so difficult to watch an online stream, especially with so many easy way to put a stream up on a tv. The biggest downside for me is that when something is streaming, you have to be out looking for it, and you get nothing from any casual viewer who might watch just because they were flipping through. In that sense, last year's situation where the game was shown live online and then on CBS a week later really had some positives.

Having said that, the quality of the streams from ncaa.com has been pretty mediocre in past years, so my hope was that at least by having BTN do the game, you should have a much higher production quality. That seems to have been the case, although I only went back on BTN2Go to watch a couple key plays from the game and haven't watched the whole thing.
 
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