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NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
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MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
I've been seeing a lot more Union on TWCS. I do realize that schools need to pay for the production truck, however if it were a regional sports network catering to ALL areas on the broadcast then there should be more of an effort to to try and include them in coverage.
I've been seeing a lot more Union on TWCS. I do realize that schools need to pay for the production truck, however if it were a regional sports network catering to ALL areas on the broadcast then there should be more of an effort to to try and include them in coverage.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
The beginning of the bowl season doesn't excite hockey fans, and to alleviate holiday concerns they could do Thu-Fri the last two weeks of the month.
The beginning of the bowl season doesn't excite hockey fans, and to alleviate holiday concerns they could do Thu-Fri the last two weeks of the month.
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Clarkson would be on (and was, in the 1st year TWCS did broadcasts) if they would pay for the airtime. The last few years, though, I'm not sure I want them to be visible to the general public.
Clarkson would be on (and was, in the 1st year TWCS did broadcasts) if they would pay for the airtime. The last few years, though, I'm not sure I want them to be visible to the general public.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
And the Gophers struggled mightly for a 3-4 year period before Herb Brooks was hired too, what's your point? If you're suggesting only the Gophers have had losing stretches over the course of their history, or that programs can't turn things around quickly (especially a program with the recruiting recources the Gophers have), you're insane. The Gophers were 8-24-0 the year before Brooks was named head coach. Two years later, they were national champions, and they won three within a 6-year stretch. Wishful thinking if you ask me.
And the Gophers struggled mightly for a 3-4 year period before Herb Brooks was hired too, what's your point? If you're suggesting only the Gophers have had losing stretches over the course of their history, or that programs can't turn things around quickly (especially a program with the recruiting recources the Gophers have), you're insane. The Gophers were 8-24-0 the year before Brooks was named head coach. Two years later, they were national champions, and they won three within a 6-year stretch. Wishful thinking if you ask me.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
Lucia has been slow to react, but that doesn't mean he hasn't reacted. Look at their incoming freshmen. Kyle Rau, Travis Boyd, Ben Marshall and upcoming recuits like Justin Kloos, etc... All talented players that have less than prototypical NHL size. I think he finally understands that you need a blend the 1-2 year studs and the 3-4 year team guys to be successful.
And you forget, the Gophers are always one great recruiting class away from being something special. That's one of the benefits of being the Gophers. What would your thoughts be if they landed commitments from Cammarata and Fasching? Not to mention, with Guentzel back, not only do I EXPECT our defensemen to play better, but I anticipate that we will be even better positioned to land high quality defensive recruits.
Lucia has been slow to react, but that doesn't mean he hasn't reacted. Look at their incoming freshmen. Kyle Rau, Travis Boyd, Ben Marshall and upcoming recuits like Justin Kloos, etc... All talented players that have less than prototypical NHL size. I think he finally understands that you need a blend the 1-2 year studs and the 3-4 year team guys to be successful.
And you forget, the Gophers are always one great recruiting class away from being something special. That's one of the benefits of being the Gophers. What would your thoughts be if they landed commitments from Cammarata and Fasching? Not to mention, with Guentzel back, not only do I EXPECT our defensemen to play better, but I anticipate that we will be even better positioned to land high quality defensive recruits.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
I agree that Guentzel should improve the defense, but should is the key word there. There is no doubt that Minnesota as a program is in great shape to be able to right the ship quickly if they figure it out. I just don't know when that will happen. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a new head coach to do it like it did with Herb Brooks.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
I agree, having Guentzel back doesn't guarantee anything, but I certainly think it will be an improvement over Hill. Lucia won two championships with the Gophers and has had a lot of success throughout his career, so the guy knows how to coach. IMHO, a lot of factors have contributed to the recent struggles for the Gophers: The changing landscape of hockey (post NHL CBA), player performance let-downs, Lucia's illness, and ineffectiveness of his assistant coaches to name a few.
As I mentioned before, I think Lucia is starting to finally make some adjustments in his recruiting strategies, and the Gophers are always one recruiting class away from being special. If he can find the right mix of top-end players and 3-4 year guys (including guys who are willing to work for their playing time and maybe play a role and not sulk when they don't come in and play on a top line or power play as freshmen), I think that will help. If you look at the Gophers recent recruits, I think Lucia has done a good job of trying to adapt. Now it comes down to players going out and performing.
And bringing Guentzel back does a lot to help in all of these areas IMHO. He is a good measure of talent, so he should help with recruiting (especially defensively). He's also a great coach (MUCH better than Hill ever will be IMO) and gets guys to get up and play on a nightly basis. To use a phrase you brought up, he understands "Pride On Ice" and how to convey that to players. He demonstrated that consistently in his tenure as a player and as a coach with the Gophers. Bringing him back can only be a positive IMO (at least it can't be worse than what we had with Hill).
Just my thoughts.
I agree, having Guentzel back doesn't guarantee anything, but I certainly think it will be an improvement over Hill. Lucia won two championships with the Gophers and has had a lot of success throughout his career, so the guy knows how to coach. IMHO, a lot of factors have contributed to the recent struggles for the Gophers: The changing landscape of hockey (post NHL CBA), player performance let-downs, Lucia's illness, and ineffectiveness of his assistant coaches to name a few.
As I mentioned before, I think Lucia is starting to finally make some adjustments in his recruiting strategies, and the Gophers are always one recruiting class away from being special. If he can find the right mix of top-end players and 3-4 year guys (including guys who are willing to work for their playing time and maybe play a role and not sulk when they don't come in and play on a top line or power play as freshmen), I think that will help. If you look at the Gophers recent recruits, I think Lucia has done a good job of trying to adapt. Now it comes down to players going out and performing.
And bringing Guentzel back does a lot to help in all of these areas IMHO. He is a good measure of talent, so he should help with recruiting (especially defensively). He's also a great coach (MUCH better than Hill ever will be IMO) and gets guys to get up and play on a nightly basis. To use a phrase you brought up, he understands "Pride On Ice" and how to convey that to players. He demonstrated that consistently in his tenure as a player and as a coach with the Gophers. Bringing him back can only be a positive IMO (at least it can't be worse than what we had with Hill).
Just my thoughts.
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Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
Look back at the last few draft years and we will see the talent of the state of Minnesota has had some down years. IMO, that is one of the reasons why Lucia hasn't been recruiting potential first and second round draft picks.
Look back at the last few draft years and we will see the talent of the state of Minnesota has had some down years. IMO, that is one of the reasons why Lucia hasn't been recruiting potential first and second round draft picks.
MUhawks628
Love & Honor
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
My guess would be that the wait on Notre Dame's decision, whether it be the cause or an effect, has something to do with the silence.
My guess would be that the wait on Notre Dame's decision, whether it be the cause or an effect, has something to do with the silence.
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
Then on Aug 14 sent out another tweet:
Havent heard much but back on Aug. 9th Stephan Curran from Kicksave Consulting sent out a tweet that said:
Then on Aug 14 sent out another tweet:
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
It certainly is one reason, but IMO it isn't the only one. As for strength of Minnesota hockey talent, the talent in the 1995 birth year from Minnesota is insane (Fasching and Cammarata being the headliners). Fasching looks like he's going to be a legit Top 5 NHL draft pick, but Cammarata may not go nearly as high because of his size. Both are high on the Gopher's recruiting list.
BTW - There were 4 Minnesota-born players drafted in the first round in the 2010 NHL Draft, so I wouldn't say the talent from Minnesota has been on decline for a few years. It was a down year for Minnesota talent last year, but those years are gonna happen.
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FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
They should look to get local and/or league-specific talents, similar to what Time Warner does in the ECAC.
They should look to get local and/or league-specific talents, similar to what Time Warner does in the ECAC.
scsutommyboy
Frozen four or Bust!!
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
Does anybody have any idea what the hold up is? I mean if it is true Hockey east is a no go why is Notre Dame waiting to announce? There is no way they are staying in the CCHA.
Does anybody have any idea what the hold up is? I mean if it is true Hockey east is a no go why is Notre Dame waiting to announce? There is no way they are staying in the CCHA.
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
ND basically has the option to do whatever they want. They are doing the smart thing and doing research into all of their options and making an informed decision about how their conference alignment will fit in with their program. No point in rushing the decision. Though I imagine this wait must be nerve raking to WMU fans.
ND basically has the option to do whatever they want. They are doing the smart thing and doing research into all of their options and making an informed decision about how their conference alignment will fit in with their program. No point in rushing the decision. Though I imagine this wait must be nerve raking to WMU fans.
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
This whole situation seems like a win-win for WMU. Either they jump into the NCHC and benefit from the exposure, or they stay in the CCHA and get into the NCAA tournament most years.
This whole situation seems like a win-win for WMU. Either they jump into the NCHC and benefit from the exposure, or they stay in the CCHA and get into the NCAA tournament most years.
Re: NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey
What has changed at WMU?... they have several near last place finishes, improved last year to 10-9-9 in the CCHA with a new coach--- and then lost their coach this year. Lets put them on equal terms with the rest of the CCHA should they remain
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Time Warner uses local talent because Time Warner Sports is considered to be a local television network. I'm not sure how well that would work with a large national TV network like NBC/Versus.
Time Warner uses local talent because Time Warner Sports is considered to be a local television network. I'm not sure how well that would work with a large national TV network like NBC/Versus.