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National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

You guys want "tArrogance"???


How about this?


UMn has supplied more players to the US Olympic Hockey teams throughout history than ALL of the other 2014 Frozen Four participants COMBINED!!!!!!!!!

UMn has gotten TWICE AS MANY players into the US Hockey Hall of Fame than ALL of the other 2014 Frozen Four participants COMBINED!!!!!!!!!


UMn students, alumni and faculty, combined with the state of Minnesota as an entity, single-handily won World War 2 for the allies, and its really not even debatable.

In basically every way, shape and form you can think of, Minnesota as a entity, led by UMn students, alumni and faculty contributed to the Allied war effort more significantly than any other state and/or school did.



Here is my list of the Top Ten reasons why UMn and Minnesota in general was VITAL to the Allies winning WW2.

#1 - SPAM baby!!! Yeah, that's right, good ole Mn based Hormel and their canned ham helped keep Allied forces fed and able to be more manly. SPAM!!!!

#2 - K-RATIONS!!! To keep on the feeding the troops vein for a bit longer, UMn prof Ancel Keys, was the "K" in K-Rations. K-Rations being short for Keys Rations. UMn prof Ancel Keys ALSO helped keep Allied Troops fed and more importantly HEALTHY and strong and MANLY!!!! Also on the whole feeding the troops vein, the man who would later be accredited for feeding BILLIONS, Norman Borlaug, basically started out his career after graduating from UMn by developing a glue that didn't dissolve in salt water, thus allowing Allied Forces to get food to its troops stationed on the island of Gautalcanel. Simply put, Allied troops may have friggin starved to death had it not been for all of these UMn folk coming up with all these different ways of getting food, and good food, to them.

#3 - Nurses!!! Yeah, you got it, no school in the country supplied the war effort with more nurses than the University of Minnesota. Them hot UMn nurses kept our Allied troops on the mend and inspired them as well with their wonderous beauty and charm and care.

#4 - Doctors!!! Not sure if UMn supplied the most Docs, but with guys like Dr Wangensteen directing General Hospital #26, the LONGEST RUNNING war hospital in the Mediterranean Theatre, sent over by the University of Minnesota, and staffed by nothing but UMn docs and nurses and technicians, etc., UMn's medical presence was felt during WW2, so much so that the President sent a letter to the University of Minnesota thanking them for their support and read outloud during a Gopher sporting event at halftime, and awarding GH#26 with a Meritorious Service Award or something along those lines for their efforts. This hospital was largely funded by private donations collected by Dr Wangensteen before they left to support the war in Algeria and then Italy. Dr Owen Wangensteen's invention, the Wangensteen Suction Apparatus was accredited for saving THOUSANDS of soldiers lives during WW2 as well. Those soldiers whose lives were saved could then go on to possibly get back into action or to serve the military in some other fashion. Nier's Mass Spectrometer, mentioned down further was also used and made a big contribution to medical advancement in the application of anesthesia among other things as well.

#5 - Soldiers baby!!! UMn recorded the most WW2 veterans returning from service in WW2 registering for college in 1946, taking advantage of the Govt's GI Bill benefits, indicating that the state of Minnesota sent over a very large # of its young boys and men to fight in the war, and soldiers smart enough to know to go to college after the war. My guess is larger states probably sent higher #s over, but I wouldn't be shocked if Minnesota sent over the highest # on a Per Capita basis. A Minnesota unit was also the ones who fired the first shot fired by US troops during WW2, as they were the unit based on the ship that fired at a Japanese Sub just before the attack on Pearl Harbor. At least one Minnesotan was also a member of the first unit to land on the beaches of Normandy. This whole thing about being first when it comes to serving our country is not unique to these instances, as it was the Minnesota First that was the first unit to volunteer to serve the Union just after Abraham Lincoln publicly declared war on the Confederation, and it was the Minnesota First that has a song written about them and their losing more of their unit during the turning point battle in the Civil War, the Battle of Gettysburg. As the Union's forces were starting to retreat, it was the Minnesota First who charged the Confederate Forces, slowing their advance enough for the Union forces to stop their retreat, regather their wits about them and to turn and follow the Minnesota First into the fray, and ended up winning the battle, which was as I said, the turning point in the war. After Gettysburg, the Union just rolled until the war was won. The Minnesota First lost like 212 of its 242 members that day, or something like that.

#6 - Airplanes baby!!! Not as fresh in my memory as the other 4 I've listed, so I'll get back to you all with more details on this one. But off the top of my head I believe UMn prof Bryce Crawford was awarded for his contributions and leadership in developing rocket fuels and Walter Spivek was involved in the design of bombers and other planes used during WW2 if my memory is correct?

#7 - Synthetic Rubber!!! Yeah, while the Allies were running out of rubber, which was an essential product needed for production of so many things vital to the Allies winning WW2, because before the war most rubber came from SE Asia or somewhere like that, and those supplies got cut off by the Japanese forces during WW2, but UMn folk were making advancements in the creation of synthetic rubber that allowed the Allies to be able to go without the rubber they otherwise would have gotten from those Axis controlled countries.

#8 - RADAR!!!! Another one I need to go and brush up on before commenting on. But I think I remember it being UMn alum or Prof John Tate who contributed a great deal in the development of RADAR.

#9 - RU-235 & RU-238, the Cyclotron, the Mass Spectrometer, the Manhatten Project!!! Yeah, UMn grads, students and faculty were big parts of the whole development of the instruments that brought the end to World War 2. A small book could be written about Ernest O Lawrence, Merle Tuve, John H Williams & Alfred O.C. Nier's contributions to the development of the Atom Bomb. Inventing the instruments used for nuclear research, using those instruments to be the first to separate the elements in U-235 7 U-238, etc..

#10 - And finally, the most important factor of all, IRON ORE!!! About 90% of the Iron Ore used by the Allies during WW2 to build all of their guns and bullets and rockets and tanks and airplanes and jeeps and trucks, etc., came from Iron Ore mines in Minnesota. And UMn was leading the way in iron ore mining research, of course.




Honorable Mention - It wasn't just regular joe schmoes that Minnesota was sending into action during WW2, but winners, like the athletes that helped UMn win College Football Natl Titles in 1940 & 1941, and a Natl Title in Hockey in 1940, not to forget those who came close to winning titles, like the UMn wrestlers and tracksters and gymnasts, etc., all who were among the elite in the nation before and just after the war.

That's about a 10.5 on the compensation meter, Freds. You have an innie?
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Dude, I'm trying to have a little fun with this, and my original post was for the most part only pointing to the positives about Minnesota's contribution. I did not put anyone or any other state down.


But you come along and make a joke showing evidence of a lack of appreciation for what past generations did for our generation, the sacrafices they made and the research they did that has given us the highest standard of living and degrees of freedom in the world.


How do you think we are able to have this discussion over the internet on personal computers or whatever?! You think this technology just appeared out of thin air?!


Type the words Gopher and Internet into a search engine and see what comes up, maybe you will learn something? Yeah, UMn folk were instrumental in the development of the internet. And while you are at it, look up Seymour Crey and Reynold B Johnson while you are at it.


TV, computers, internet, etc., you name it, its possible the University of Minnesota had some hand in its development, if not a significant contribution to it.


And the guy you were making fun of for developing saltwater resistant glue, Norman Borlaug, won a Nobel Peace Prize and is accredited for saving the lives of BILLIONS of people. Go look him up while you are at it.

I assure you, the person I was making fun of was not Norman Borlaug.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

I assure you, the person I was making fun of was not Norman Borlaug.



Dude, I started the list with SPAM. Couldn't you tell I was trying to have fun with it? And the inclusion of the beauty of the UMn nurses inspiring the troops?! Ever watch the movie "The 5th Element"? It's the OVER THE TOP aspects of the movie that are just hilarious and very entertaining. I may not be as talented as the guy who wrote that script, but not understanding that is the vibe I was going for and trying to poke fun of me for YOUR lack of understanding, is hardly hurtful to me, imo.

You tried to make a funny by ridiculing a contribution to the war effort in WW2 that probably saved some lives, to make yourself look funny, in an attempt to poke fun of me, but you missed dude. You missed by a long shot.


And the thing is, leading in with the whole SPAM thing? And you pick to ridicule the Borlaug saltwater resistant thing? I guess I can give you credit for trying to be original or taking on a more challenging task, but the follow through was lame. Sorry.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Dude, I started the list with SPAM. Couldn't you tell I was trying to have fun with it? And the inclusion of the beauty of the UMn nurses inspiring the troops?! Ever watch the movie "The 5th Element"? It's the OVER THE TOP aspects of the movie that are just hilarious and very entertaining. I may not be as talented as the guy who wrote that script, but not understanding that is the vibe I was going for and trying to poke fun of me for YOUR lack of understanding, is hardly hurtful to me, imo.

You tried to make a funny by ridiculing a contribution to the war effort in WW2 that probably saved some lives, to make yourself look funny, in an attempt to poke fun of me, but you missed dude. You missed by a long shot.


And the thing is, leading in with the whole SPAM thing? And you pick to ridicule the Borlaug saltwater resistant thing? I guess I can give you credit for trying to be original or taking on a more challenging task, but the follow through was lame. Sorry.

Oh! The 5th Element, why didn't you just say so. Sorry for missing your vibe....dude.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Dude, I'm trying to have a little fun with this, and my original post was for the most part only pointing to the positives about Minnesota's contribution. I did not put anyone or any other state down.


But you come along and make a joke showing evidence of a lack of appreciation for what past generations did for our generation, the sacrafices they made and the research they did that has given us the highest standard of living and degrees of freedom in the world.


How do you think we are able to have this discussion over the internet on personal computers or whatever?! You think this technology just appeared out of thin air?!


Type the words Gopher and Internet into a search engine and see what comes up, maybe you will learn something? Yeah, UMn folk were instrumental in the development of the internet. And while you are at it, look up Seymour Crey and Reynold B Johnson while you are at it.


TV, computers, internet, etc., you name it, its possible the University of Minnesota had some hand in its development, if not a significant contribution to it.


And the guy you were making fun of for developing saltwater resistant glue, Norman Borlaug, won a Nobel Peace Prize and is accredited for saving the lives of BILLIONS of people. Go look him up while you are at it.

Dude, I started the list with SPAM. Couldn't you tell I was trying to have fun with it? And the inclusion of the beauty of the UMn nurses inspiring the troops?! Ever watch the movie "The 5th Element"? It's the OVER THE TOP aspects of the movie that are just hilarious and very entertaining. I may not be as talented as the guy who wrote that script, but not understanding that is the vibe I was going for and trying to poke fun of me for YOUR lack of understanding, is hardly hurtful to me, imo.

You tried to make a funny by ridiculing a contribution to the war effort in WW2 that probably saved some lives, to make yourself look funny, in an attempt to poke fun of me, but you missed dude. You missed by a long shot.


And the thing is, leading in with the whole SPAM thing? And you pick to ridicule the Borlaug saltwater resistant thing? I guess I can give you credit for trying to be original or taking on a more challenging task, but the follow through was lame. Sorry.

This has to be Dubber. Gurth was right: he just couldn't hold it in any longer.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Oh! The 5th Element, why didn't you just say so. Sorry for missing your vibe....dude.


No problem dude, my bad I guess. I can forgive ya. lol Bruce Willis seems to love those over the top kind of movies. I'm also a fan of good ole Monty Python and the Holy Grail as well. And in the spirit of this thread, YEAH BABY!!! Only American member of the Monty Python troop was Terry Gilliam, from yep, you guessed it, MINNESOTA!!! :)


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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Did you have posters of the Baby Blood Drinker in your bedroom when you were growing up? Is he your grandpa or something? Whatever your reason, you certainly have quite the mancrush on him.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

This has to be Dubber. Gurth was right: he just couldn't hold it in any longer.



I would deny being this Dubber person, as I have in the past, but everytime I denied it in the past, it just made people more convinced that I was he? lol But I'm not the Dubber or JDubb or whatever his moniker was, although I never hated him as much as so many others apparently did? I have not been around enough I guess to witness what his horrible crime against humanity or at least this forum was? I know he appreciated the past and UMn hockey and the state of Minnesota's contributions to hockey, but I am not, nor ever have been the Dubber/JDubb or whatever. Surprised no one has figured out who I used to be here? But like I said, I'm not a long time regular here, just come around about once every 4 years for a season. I was around last season and the year 4 WCHA teams got into the Frozen Four and probably one other season somewhere in there?
 
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This has to be Dubber. Gurth was right: he just couldn't hold it in any longer.

I never said that Fred was.

It's pretty common knowledge that mnstateof is the new persona of Dubbie - with apparently better rep.


Not sure how or why some of these Minnys are indoctrinated to be pompous d-bags when it comes to hockey (especially) or the state that they live in, but I believe there are far more of them than just Grand Puckbah Dubbie signing on with multiple identities.

Funny that no other fan base on here carries themselves in the same fashion.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Did you have posters of the Baby Blood Drinker in your bedroom when you were growing up? Is he your grandpa or something? Whatever your reason, you certainly have quite the mancrush on him.


I do? LOL. Dude, he was the one guy out of the what? dozen or so I listed that you chose to bash. Had you bashed Ernest O Lawrence or Alfred Nier or Owen Wangensteen I would have defended them as well.


Ancel Keys was an atheist, I am not an atheist, so no, I do not have a man crush on him, and honestly, I thought he was black, lol. Never saw a picture of him before today. Just read a few articles about him and they never included pictures of him.


He was a fan of the Mediterrenean Diet(sp?) and so am I, not to the same extent, I lean more towards the Kosher Diet of the Jews, but they are very similar, being close to the same region and all.

He may have been off about a few things, or maybe just didn't understand the WHY completely, but he was right about the Mediterrenean Diet being FAR more healthy than the SAD.


You know what the SAD is? The Standard American Diet? Americans are some of the worst eaters in the world. Far too much pork, FAR too much meat. Now don't get me wrong, I am very much enjoy meat and eat too much of it myself. But I know its not the healthiest for me.


But seriously, what part of Key's research was so "quackish"? I'm being honest here, I don't The "experts" advice about what is good for us to eat and what isn't, changes almost everyday. How was Keys such a quack in comparison?

He got Americans thinking that they needed to eat a healthier diet. Just because he may not have figured out EXACTLY what that diet should have been and the why back in the 40s, 50s and 60s doesn't mean he was a quack. He was ahead of his time, but probably and realistically behind OUR times. That hardly makes him a quack.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

I never said that Fred was.

It's pretty common knowledge that mnstateof is the new persona of Dubbie - with apparently better rep.


Not sure how or why some of these Minnys are indoctrinated to be pompous d-bags when it comes to hockey (especially) or the state that they live in, but I believe there are far more of them than just Grand Puckbah Dubbie signing on with multiple identities.

Funny that no other fan base on here carries themselves in the same fashion.

You're right-careless wording on my part. I was thinking of one of your earlier posts saying the old dubbie had to come out.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Drinking the infant blood seems rather quackish to me. Maybe you disagree though.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

I never said that Fred was.

It's pretty common knowledge that mnstateof is the new persona of Dubbie - with apparently better rep.


Not sure how or why some of these Minnys are indoctrinated to be pompous d-bags when it comes to hockey (especially) or the state that they live in, but I believe there are far more of them than just Grand Puckbah Dubbie signing on with multiple identities.

Funny that no other fan base on here carries themselves in the same fashion.



Gurt, I hope you know that if not other Minnesotans, at least I am one of them that CAN and does laugh at ourselves. I love it when people use their imaginations and are creative in their smack and I laugh at a lot of the jokes made about or towards Minnesota and Minnesotans. I try to have fun with it all. I enjoy doing the whole "tArrogance" thing. For one, I am proud of my state and my favorite school and its teams, probably more than it or they deserve, lol. but that is often what being a fan is about.

And I can also take things seriously as well. I also enjoy mixing the two, confusing people, making it a challenge to figure what which I am, joking or being serious? Guess I don't come here for the purpose of "efficient communication" or making friends, but for my own personal entertainment.


As for how so many of them carry themselves? A few comments about that. Dubbie got a lot of flack from other Minnesota Gopher fans, so labeling all Minnesota fans or even "many" of them as carrying themselves in that way is not all that accurate. And I've caught a lot of flack for it as well. I think the vast majority of Gophers fans are NOT like that, but since these type of forums attract mostly die hards, the percentage of die hards that will be like that are going to be higher, lol.

And I do it both to educate others, but mainly because its fun and entertaining.


And if you think Gopher hockey fans are arrogant? lol I follow and discuss college basketball and football as well, and Gopher hockey fans are not even close to arrogant, in comparison to fans of other sports teams. They may be the most arrogant among hockey fans, but for the most part, I find college hockey fans to be some of the most respectful sports fans out there. Myself not always included, lol. I guess I serve as some balance to the equation?!


But if you joke or have fun with me or at my expense, that's fine, and I encourage it. But if you make a serious and negative statement or crack about UMn or Minnesota or Minnesotans, I might reply with a serious post in return?



I vote for being light hearted and fun, but I can do both.


One thing I do struggle with though, is the whole short and sweet thing.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Anyone else hear Lou Nanne on KFAN yesterday? Seemed a little too confident the Gophers would get by UND to me.

UND made it this far for a reason IMO. They've really controlled the neutral zone in the first two games they played, and got some outstanding goaltending from Gothberg.

I hadn't watched too many UND games this season, so I was surprised by how far Zane has really come since last season. Not saying he was bad by any stretch last year, but he looked really good this past weekend.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Anyone else hear Lou Nanne on KFAN yesterday? Seemed a little too confident the Gophers would get by UND to me.

UND made it this far for a reason IMO. They've really controlled the neutral zone in the first two games they played, and got some outstanding goaltending from Gothberg.

I hadn't watched too many UND games this season, so I was surprised by how far Zane has really come since last season. Not saying he was bad by any stretch last year, but he looked really good this past weekend.



You can't be trying to talk hockey already? It's not even Thursday yet. lol
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

What is there to say really? The old fart is obviously suffering from dementia. Perhaps he should try drinking some baby blood.
 
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Anyone else hear Lou Nanne on KFAN yesterday? Seemed a little too confident the Gophers would get by UND to me.

UND made it this far for a reason IMO. They've really controlled the neutral zone in the first two games they played, and got some outstanding goaltending from Gothberg.

I hadn't watched too many UND games this season, so I was surprised by how far Zane has really come since last season. Not saying he was bad by any stretch last year, but he looked really good this past weekend.

That assessment of Gothberg is pretty close to how most UND fans feel. He's been strong but not the game-stealer we had hoped for. Last weekend, he did steal the game. No goalies do that week in and week out, of course, but we are now more hopeful that there are more of those games in him.

What he is likely to see from Minnesota is something different from what FSU had, though, and hopefully he can keep them in single digits.
 
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