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More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is...

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10 of 12 games have been completed in mostly dramatic fashion. In front of mostly empty seats.

Yes, the NCAA regional disaster rolls on. The most important games of the season, featuring electrifying action, overtime, and bad officiating. And nobody goes to see the games.

I knew nobody would be in Green Bay. I took my wife and kids and we had a great time, but there were fewer than 3500 people there on Friday. There were whole sections that but for one or two people were totally empty. With four teams that weren't particularly close, this wasn't a surprise. Still, it's embarrassing to see the highlights of these "crucial" games play out in front of a sea of red seats.

Nonetheless, the real travesty was in St. Paul. St. Paul, a stone's throw from the University of Minnesota, who was in the game. St. Paul, a few hours of familiar driving away from Grand Forks. St. Paul, home to the best hockey arena in the world. St. Paul, which finally won the regional lottery and got both Minnie and NoDak, the two most prominent fan bases at the Final Five the week before. Both playing on a <b>Saturday.</b>

The attendance for day one of that regional: 9386.

I'm not going to blame Minnie or NoDak fans who just went to the Final Five and hope for a Tampa trip. I won't blame promotion of the games, though it doesn't seem to have been very good. I won't even blame the absurdly high prices. And, granted, there will be a huge walk-up tomorrow as fans look for a rematch of last week's see-saw WCHA title game.

But this, to me, is an absolute travesty. If you can't even draw 10,000 fans at the X for the two biggest fan bases in the WCHA, your regional system is broken. It is an insult to the players, the coaches, the fans, and the sport itself. It must change.

The NCAA must drop neutral-site regionals and play the first 12 games at the home sites of the higher seeds.
What they need to do is split the tickets instead of the 1 day pass crap. More fans would show up if they weren't force fed both games cost.
 
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The other thing is, they should not charge the same price for each ticket. How can you charge the same price for seats in prime locations and seats in the balcony or in the corners or in the last rows in the balcony???

I don't understand why I got bad seats when there were much better seats available near my section or in lower levels. There were plenty of empty seats all around. Fortunately, there were so many empty spots that I was able to sit in better seats and get a better view of the game.

On top of that, they charge you 12.50 for processing fees for each day for a whopping 25.00 in processing fees if you order online and can't make the long drive to the rink to buy tickets to avoid the processing fees !!!

Is it not better to sell tickets and fill the rink up and make more money in concessions if the rink is filled???
 
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Mariucci's capacity isn't much more than what was in the X for that game. The problem was the price of tickets, the fact that they didn't start selling single game tickets until the day of, and the fact that they wouldn't let people leave between games. It's hard to justify spending $500 + parking + food and beverage to bring a family of five to the games and sit there with kids 7+ hours when you can watch on TV. Not to mention the significant additional costs if you're coming from out of town.

Bingo. This was the reason I didn't go, I went to the Final Five and forked out plenty of money just last week, the prices the NCAA was asking were crazy.

I like the idea of opening the upper deck and selling those tickets for 10-15 bucks, I would have went.
 
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BTW, I wonder who came up with starting the Northeast regional final on a Sunday night at 8 PM EST...that just sounds like a brilliant idea.

It's called going up against the NCAA round ball regional finals. They're done when this starts.

The other thing is the coverage on ESPNU. How many like the no HD Look/ Step child to round ball tournament. Some network take charge. ESPN hates hockey. Just ask them. Why don't we try streaming and give up blurred TV coverage. Fire Melrose as well. NHL guy can't cover College Hockey with a 30 minute prep.
 
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C'mon, don't you like those $7.00 hot dogs and $8.50 beers???? :D

Ha, I actually managed to escape the place and had a nice Sam Adams and a Chicken Parm at Ralph and Richs between games.

As to the single session tickets, BPT sold them about 5 or 6 days before the event.
 
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Bingo. This was the reason I didn't go, I went to the Final Five and forked out plenty of money just last week, the prices the NCAA were asking were crazy.

Yup. My party of 5 wanted tickets - decided it was ransom.
 
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It's the NCAA's fault that the Xcel Energy Center is not to capacity. They asked people to spend 7 hours in since the arena and without beer or anything to do outside watching the game. It was one of the most sterile atmospheres ever for a sporting event. The only excitement or energy came from the Sioux and Gopher fan bases. There was minimal to no merchandise for the regional itself. One table with one style T-Shirt for each team and a bunch of Frozen Four gear. If this was business and not a corrupt non-profit system where a few adults make a ton of money off of "student athletes" while screwing over the customer base (no you didn't see the a Final Four team play at Williams arena in 1997 for $25 dollars, but no you can't have your money back we gave it to Iona so their ****ty basketball team has the privilege of remaining D1) it would have been dead faster then a Sausage Vendor cart at a PETA convention. It was such a stark contrast to the final five just one weekend ago. Which left the Hockey Lodge open with a ton of merchandise for all WCHA teams and the final five itself, beer sales, a band (and I've had enough Uncle Chunk already to last me a lifetime, but it was still a nice way to connect people), you could go out and re-enter, and there were corporate sponsorships. I could even go on a whole other rant about the ticket pricing (I sold a 45 dollars ticket for $20 and the scalper still couldn't sell it), but suffice to say it's not necessary. The NCAA made the building people cover up the FSN North sign, but can't even get a student intern to change the Name Scramble from last year's Frozen Four. Cam Aiktinson and Adam Burish again, really the NCAA is like a Hooker who doesn't even give you the courtesy of moaning.
 
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3 game series for 2 weeks.

Lower seed hosts game 1 on Thursday, higher seed gets games 2 and 3 (if needed) on Saturday and Sunday.

No week off after round 2.

Frozen Four as is.

Easy, and NCAA, you're welcome.

You just doubled the cost of travel for the NC$$. Not happening.
 
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As far as I'm concerned, it's got to be the pricing. St. Paul half empty with Minny and NoDak there. Worcester half empty with BC there (note that the BB regional is also being hosted by BC, but BC isn't there). You could have counted on both of these teams to be in these regionals months ago; it's not like this would be a sudden unplanned expense for fans.

Bring down the ticket prices and change some policies and you'll get crowds. When the NC$$ regional is in Albany, I generally go regardless of the teams involved. I missed Bridgeport this year due to work commitments but I generally go every other year to B'Port since it's been there too. However, if I'm an average Clarkson fan and I'm there to see Clarkson (like in 2008), I'm not going to sit in the Times-Union Center for 7 hours with no beer to see 2 schools I don't care about (Michigan and Niagara). Sure, I love hockey, so I'll watch quite a bit of the game, but I'm definitely going to be spending the intermissions and between games at a local establishment.
 
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I may not be the first to suggest this but, what about 2 sites hosting 2 regionals each? Doubleheaders for two days and a third doubleheader for the regional finals. Put them in your NHL type arenas. 8 teams. Enough ticket demand. To bang the place out with ease. Right now its just too easy to watch the games on TV. Wasn't always that way
 
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I may not be the first to suggest this but, what about 2 sites hosting 2 regionals each? Doubleheaders for two days and a third doubleheader for the regional finals. Put them in your NHL type arenas. 8 teams. Enough ticket demand. To bang the place out with ease. Right now its just too easy to watch the games on TV. Wasn't always that way
A lot of people would argue, it's NOT easy to watch them on TV.
 
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A lot of people would argue, it's NOT easy to watch them on TV.

If they were about TV there should be at least 3 regional championships today, not two. Missed half the games, because of overlap. It would be so much better if the East or Midwest regional was at 1 pm CST instead of during other games.
 
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I may not be the first to suggest this but, what about 2 sites hosting 2 regionals each? Doubleheaders for two days and a third doubleheader for the regional finals. Put them in your NHL type arenas. 8 teams. Enough ticket demand. To bang the place out with ease. Right now its just too easy to watch the games on TV. Wasn't always that way
7 games over how many days, on the same ice? What kind of shape is the ice going to be in after the first round, let alone regional finals?
 
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Just wait to see the skeleton crew in Worcester tonight. Sunday night, 8pm, Maine's been eliminated -- it's not gonna be pretty lol.

I still think going back to campus sites is the way to go...especially as the regional set-up as it currently stands seem to be more and more of a disappointment every year.
 
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Just wait to see the skeleton crew in Worcester tonight. Sunday night, 8pm, Maine's been eliminated -- might be able to count how many people are there.

they still got BC fans right? Just how far is Worcester from Boston?
 
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