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MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

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Just watched a documentary about the prison system. It really is designed to get the accused to take a plea deal. In this day and age, with all the info and scrutiny and immediate judgement out there...hoo boy.

I am not saying he is not guilty. However, I am saying he paid his price, seems to be on track with his life, and let's move on. We want criminals to rehab, pay for their sins, and become productive members of society, yes? So far, he's doing that.

Now, if he messes up, different story.
 
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Bumgarner throws 82 pitches in 6 innings, gives up 8 hits 2ER's and strikes out 3 in his 1st start since coming off the DL.
 
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SonofSouthie said:
Wasn't drafted. I'd be surprised if one of those independent league teams took a chance.
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The Heimlich story is just such a good lesson for how we go off track as a society.

What he did was heinous. It's a mark that has to remain with him for the rest of his life. He can't complain about people always looking out of the corner of their eye to make sure they know what he is doing at all times. He's forfeited his presumption of normalcy.

But do we just demand as a society that his life be discarded? Playing baseball, professionally, is simply a job. The teams hire the players, and pay them handsomely. But it's still employment.

Do we also say that we don't want him working at a WalMart?

I know why teams won't take a chance on him. It's because of us. They are afraid of our reaction, of our outrage, of our demand that Heimlich be released. But do we really have that right, or should we exercise it? Aren't we better off trying to turn him into a useful, productive member of society?

It bothers me when the pitchfork and torch crowd gets their way.
 
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SJHovey said:
The Heimlich story is just such a good lesson for how we go off track as a society.

What he did was heinous. It's a mark that has to remain with him for the rest of his life. He can't complain about people always looking out of the corner of their eye to make sure they know what he is doing at all times. He's forfeited his presumption of normalcy.

But do we just demand as a society that his life be discarded? Playing baseball, professionally, is simply a job. The teams hire the players, and pay them handsomely. But it's still employment.

Do we also say that we don't want him working at a WalMart?

I know why teams won't take a chance on him. It's because of us. They are afraid of our reaction, of our outrage, of our demand that Heimlich be released. But do we really have that right, or should we exercise it? Aren't we better off trying to turn him into a useful, productive member of society?

It bothers me when the pitchfork and torch crowd gets their way.
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Yeah, like with Kaep?
 
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jerphisch said:
Yeah, like with Kaep?
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If you're referring to Colin Kaepernick, yeah it's somewhat similar.

There are some obvious differences. Whatever it was that Kaepernick may have done pales in comparison to child sex abuse.

On the other hand, his actions occurred while he was working for the employer, and in the league that has apparently shunned him. If Heimlich was a five year mlb pro and went out and abused a six year old girl, I would probably feel a little differently if his team then dropped him and no other teams picked him up, than I do about this situation where Heimlich was a juvenile, "did his time" so to speak with respect to filling his obligations in the criminal justice system, and is now looking to proceed with the rest of his life.

But yeah, Kaepernick has probably been a victim of fan reaction, or anticipated fan reaction.
 
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SJHovey said:
But yeah, Kaepernick has probably been a victim of fan reaction, or anticipated fan reaction.
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Kaep would be a fine draw for fans -- 90% wouldn't give a sh-t if he won, and for every knuck moron who threw a hissy fit he'd attract at least 20 BLM Priders.

Kaep is blackballed because NFL owners are a bunch of ancient racist sh-tbirds.
 
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SJHovey said:
But do we just demand as a society that his life be discarded? Playing baseball, professionally, is simply a job. The teams hire the players, and pay them handsomely. But it's still employment.
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It's not that simple. Football is entertainment so it's all about image. They don't want to be associated with a kid diddler.

Now, unfortunately, he may never have been a kid diddler. From the 8 seconds I put into looking at this story it looks like he always said he was innocent but he was forced into a plea bargain to avoid be burned at the stake. And kid diddling is the current Witchcraft offense where accusation equals conviction and auto de fe (previously: communism, anarchism, atheism, and... huh... witchcraft itself!)

Dude's dead as a marketable property so he's dead as a pro athlete. If he's innocent then it really, really sucks but maybe he's saved from CTE. If he's guilty... meh, f-ck 'im.

Maybe he's one of those Nice Christians and he'll find his judgment with the Lord, or whatever. World needs ditch diggers too.
 
Kepler said:
It's not that simple. Football is entertainment so it's all about image. They don't want to be associated with a kid diddler.
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All sports are entertainment. One thing that got mentioned to me as I started to get serious about soccer refereeing was “the minute you start asking people to pay to watch you’re no longer in sports, you’re in the entertainment industry.”
 
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Jimjamesak said:
All sports are entertainment. One thing that got mentioned to me as I started to get serious about soccer refereeing was “the minute you start asking people to pay to watch you’re no longer in sports, you’re in the entertainment industry.”
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Bingo. It's not about the sport, just like "the movies" are not about the movie. Those are merely attractions to get eyeballs to sell sh-t to. They could be anything else -- they're fungible.
 
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Kepler said:
It's not that simple. Football is entertainment so it's all about image. They don't want to be associated with a kid diddler.
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MLB owners, and NFL owners for that matter, don't care who they associate with. They'd gladly field an entire team of kid diddlers if they thought it would help them win, and if they didn't think they'd get a bunch of angry protests from fans and angry columns from sports writers.
 
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SJHovey said:
MLB owners, and NFL owners for that matter, don't care who they associate with. They'd gladly field an entire team of kid diddlers if they thought it would help them win, and if they didn't think they'd get a bunch of angry protests from fans and angry columns from sports writers.
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We're saying the same thing. That's why Rapelisburger has a job -- NFL fans could give a sh-t about violence against women. But they get really angry about kid diddling -- when a knuck has sex with a close relative that better be consensual.
 
SJHovey said:
MLB owners, and NFL owners for that matter, don't care who they associate with. They'd gladly field an entire team of kid diddlers if they thought it would help them win, and if they didn't think they'd get a bunch of angry protests from fans and angry columns from sports writers.
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Only a handful of owners care about winning. Most care about selling tickets and merchandise.
 
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Kepler said:
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Kaep would be a fine draw for fans -- 90% wouldn't give a sh-t if he won, and for every knuck moron who threw a hissy fit he'd attract at least 20 BLM Priders.

Kaep is blackballed because NFL owners are a bunch of ancient racist sh-tbirds.
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Kapernuts is also expecting to be a starter, and/or get paid starter's money. That's also an issue. It's more than the kneel
 
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A's finally back in the win column after a tough couple games in Texas.

Blake Treinen is a cheat code
 
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Minnesota with an 8-1 loss to Oregon State in the first game of the Supers.

UNC over Stetson, MS St over Vandy, and Washington over Fullerton in other games.
 
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