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MLB 2018.1: ...And The Nationals Will Not Make It Out of the First Round

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Looks like the Os will win tonight

That's #29 on the year. On July 24th. Do you see 14 more wins from them the rest of the way, especially if they trade Adam Jones as well, among others? It might be a stretch.
 
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The A's were down 10-2 entering the 7th. It is now 13-10 good guys in the 10th. I love this team so much.
 
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The A's were down 10-2 entering the 7th. It is now 13-10 good guys in the 10th. I love this team so much.

And another comeback tonight, this one down 5-1 in the 7th, Khrush gets a three-run homer to cut it to 5-4...then in the 9th, Khrush hits a two-run, two-out, two-strike home run to win us the game.

This team is more fun than yours
 
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Now looks like the Yankees are getting J.A. Happ from Toronto.
Why is the division helping the Yankees & Red Sox?
 
Now looks like the Yankees are getting J.A. Happ from Toronto.
Why is the division helping the Yankees & Red Sox?

The deal is done.

@Joelsherman1: Players have not been informed yet, which suggests final details -- perhaps physical review -- but #Yankees and #Bluejays are in agreement pending those final details: Drury and McKinney for Happ.
 
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Now looks like the Yankees are getting J.A. Happ from Toronto.
Why is the division helping the Yankees & Red Sox?

Because the two idiots running the Jays think they're still in Cleveland :mad:
 
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Looks like Cole Hamels to the Cubs.
 
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Now looks like the Yankees are getting J.A. Happ from Toronto.
Why is the division helping the Yankees & Red Sox?
Actually, it makes sense. This year is a lost cause (fun fact -- the Orioles could finish the season with a 60 - 0 run, and they wouldn't win 90 games). As for future years, the players you traded will all be UFA's at the end of the year, so you had no control over where they end up anyway AND you're getting good players from your division rivals' farm systems.
 
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I'd tell the M's to stick it up their ***. I don't know where they think they're going to go. Montreal is just about the only viable option. I'm sure they'd LOVE to play in Olympic Stadium for a couple years....
 
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I'd tell the M's to stick it up their ***. I don't know where they think they're going to go. Montreal is just about the only viable option. I'm sure they'd LOVE to play in Olympic Stadium for a couple years....

I bet they could cram a field into BC Place if they take away the hanging scoreboard.
 
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24 of the 30 ballparks have been built in the last 30 years. The exceptions:

Fenway (1912)
Wrigley (1914)
Dodger Stadium (1962)
Anaheim (1966)
Oakland (1968)
Kaufmann (1973)

Everybody else has had new brick and steel since 1989. The only two that have any right to complain are the A's, as that stadium can't even keep the **** from running out of the toilets (literally), and Tampa. I'm not even sure about Tampa, as that ballpark was built in 1990, and not for baseball in the first place. Any talk of replacing Fenway or Wrigley is likely to cause a riot locally, and Dodger Stadium, Kaufmann, and Anaheim (whatever it's called now) have all seen major renovations in the past 10-15 years. The old stadiums, Oakland exempted, are likely to be here for a while yet.

The Braves left Turner Field this year, which was built for the 1996 Olympics, with the understanding that it would serve the Braves afterwards. The Rangers are replacing theirs after this year. That one was built in 1994. I find both of these situations to be completely absurd. Walking away from 20-25 year old parks is absolutely asinine.

Baseball stadiums will last 40-60 years before you start to have questions regarding renovation vs. replacement. The Polo Grounds crumbled after 40-50 years of use. Ebbets Field was obsolete after about 45 years. Yankee Stadium had to be completely gutted and rebuilt after 1973 (51 seasons). Tiger Stadium required a major renovation after 1976 (65 seasons). They've sunk money into Wrigley to replace concrete falling off of the stadium a couple years ago. Other fields have lasted longer, others didn't hold up

The Mariners got a half-billion dollar stadium in 1999. I don't want to hear a word about how they need money for it.
 
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24 of the 30 ballparks have been built in the last 30 years. The exceptions:

Fenway (1912)
Wrigley (1914)
Dodger Stadium (1962)
Anaheim (1966)
Oakland (1968)
Kaufmann (1973)

Everybody else has had new brick and steel since 1989. The only two that have any right to complain are the A's, as that stadium can't even keep the **** from running out of the toilets (literally), and Tampa. I'm not even sure about Tampa, as that ballpark was built in 1990, and not for baseball in the first place. Any talk of replacing Fenway or Wrigley is likely to cause a riot locally, and Dodger Stadium, Kaufmann, and Anaheim (whatever it's called now) have all seen major renovations in the past 10-15 years. The old stadiums, Oakland exempted, are likely to be here for a while yet.

The Braves left Turner Field this year, which was built for the 1996 Olympics, with the understanding that it would serve the Braves afterwards. The Rangers are replacing theirs after this year. That one was built in 1994. I find both of these situations to be completely absurd. Walking away from 20-25 year old parks is absolutely asinine.

Baseball stadiums will last 40-60 years before you start to have questions regarding renovation vs. replacement. The Polo Grounds crumbled after 40-50 years of use. Ebbets Field was obsolete after about 45 years. Yankee Stadium had to be completely gutted and rebuilt after 1973 (51 seasons). Tiger Stadium required a major renovation after 1976 (65 seasons). They've sunk money into Wrigley to replace concrete falling off of the stadium a couple years ago. Other fields have lasted longer, others didn't hold up

The Mariners got a half-billion dollar stadium in 1999. I don't want to hear a word about how they need money for it.
Coors Field is the third oldest ballpark in the NL. Let that sink in.
 
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Coors Field is the third oldest ballpark in the NL. Let that sink in.

Exactly. And, if we want to be honest, a good deal of Oakland's problem is of their own doing. In the early 90's, when the A's were the dominant team and there were concerns about whether the Giants were going to bolt for St. Petersburg, Oakland ceded the territorial rights of San Jose to the Giants. It now just so happens that San Jose is where the A's would probably ideally like to build their new digs. Problem is, now the Giants are asserting their territorial rights to San Jose.

Virtually everybody who needed a new ballpark now has a new ballpark. So when one of these franchises comes out and says "we need money for our park", my immediate reaction is "shut the * up. You already got yours". My team, the Tigers, got Comerica Park in 2000. They can come talk about a new park sometime around 2050, assuming that MLB is still around by then. If Tiger Stadium could last 60 years before a renovation, they can get 50 out of Comerica.
 
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24 of the 30 ballparks have been built in the last 30 years. The exceptions:

Fenway (1912)
Wrigley (1914)
Dodger Stadium (1962)
Anaheim (1966)
Oakland (1968)
Kaufmann (1973)

Everybody else has had new brick and steel since 1989. The only two that have any right to complain are the A's, as that stadium can't even keep the **** from running out of the toilets (literally), and Tampa. I'm not even sure about Tampa, as that ballpark was built in 1990, and not for baseball in the first place. Any talk of replacing Fenway or Wrigley is likely to cause a riot locally, and Dodger Stadium, Kaufmann, and Anaheim (whatever it's called now) have all seen major renovations in the past 10-15 years. The old stadiums, Oakland exempted, are likely to be here for a while yet.
I think it would depend. Plenty of people hate the ridiculous sightlines and the tiny-a$s seats, but I don't know if it would be enough to encourage people to build a new park.
 
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I think it would depend. Plenty of people hate the ridiculous sightlines and the tiny-a$s seats, but I don't know if it would be enough to encourage people to build a new park.

People are also going to poop themselves when they see the price tag, too. That one might end up being a $2 billion ballpark. The place is going to have to literally crumble before talk gets serious. I suspect that both the Red Sox and Cubs are going to hang on to their parks as long as they absolutely possibly can.

Detroit spent $863 million to replace Joe Louis Arena for the Red Wings, and to move the Pistons back downtown. That area was NOT exactly a good neighborhood beforehand. Now just imagine what it's going to cost just to procure the land in Boston. It's going to hurt.
 
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People are also going to poop themselves when they see the price tag, too. That one might end up being a $2 billion ballpark. The place is going to have to literally crumble before talk gets serious. I suspect that both the Red Sox and Cubs are going to hang on to their parks as long as they absolutely possibly can.

Cubs are in phase 2 or 3 of their multi-phase plan to completely gut the park while keeping it. It's pretty much delayed any talk of a new ballpark by 20+ years. The White Sox will likely be in Comiskey Park III before the Cubs get a new park.

I can't believe the Mariners are pulling this sh**. I'm also pi**ed at the Rangers for wanting out of the Ballpark in Arlington just because it's not air conditioned to their current liking.
 
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The Rangers and the Braves both. That is just pure stupidity.

Here's the thing, though. We're at our saturation point, especially if MLB wants to expand to 32 teams. Once we get to 32, if a franchise tries to shake down a municipality for a ballpark or improvements, they have virtually no leverage if the community tells them to go jump in a lake. Where are they going to go? Every place that can support a franchise would already have one, especially if those two teams are placed in Montreal and Vegas.
 
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