MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here

[The Rube]

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Agreed, but how does someone other than Cardinals fans NOT root for the Nationals in that series regardless?

Oh I get that part. This hatred....this is almost Yankees like, and it's been going on for the last couple years. Hence my question.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Oh I get that part. This hatred....this is almost Yankees like, and it's been going on for the last couple years. Hence my question.

My reason is 1982.

Don't know why anyone else does although I'd have rooted for Washington either way as they are the NKOTB.

 

[The Rube]

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My reason is 1982.

Don't know why anyone else does although I'd have rooted for Washington either way as they are the NKOTB.

Denkinger? Ok, I can buy that reason.

 

[state of hockey]

Oh I get that part. This hatred....this is almost Yankees like, and it's been going on for the last couple years. Hence my question.

I honestly don't hate the Yankees nearly as much as most. I don't loathe a team merely for their success. But I am also one that trends towards the underdog. This is why I was cheering for Baltimore and Washington.

 

[sagard]

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Agreed, but how does someone other than Cardinals fans NOT root for the Nationals in that series regardless?

1. The Nationals are idiots for benching Strasberg.
2. They doubled down on their idiocy pitching to Kosma.

Glad they lost. The clearly won't have the stomach for trying to beat the Yanks in the series. Reasons to hate the Yanks.

1. Girardi bringing in a new pitcher for every batter of an inning.
2. The one classy thing about them is out for the year.

 

[French Rage]

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Fun facts: The four teams left in the MLB postseason account for all World Series championships between 1931 and 1939. In the 1932-1935 and 1933-1936 spans, each team won a championship.

 

[Dude Love]

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Done! See ya in February, MLB!

 

[bronconick]

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You know who might have been useful for a few innings while your starter and bullpen burned down the nation's capital?

Strasburg.

But go ahead and keep being smug about it, Nats.

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

1. The Nationals are idiots for benching Strasberg.
2. They doubled down on their idiocy pitching to Kosma.

Glad they lost. The clearly won't have the stomach for trying to beat the Yanks in the series. Reasons to hate the Yanks.

1. Girardi bringing in a new pitcher for every batter of an inning.
2. The one classy thing about them is out for the year.

Because he is the ONLY manager who will swap pitchers for matchups when the need arises, right? If you honestly hate the Yankees for that (or partially for that...)....

Pineda is our one classy thing? Shucks, such a nice thing for you to say

 

[jen]

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You know who might have been useful for a few innings while your starter and bullpen burned down the nation's capital?

Strasburg.

But go ahead and keep being smug about it, Nats.

was thinking the exact same thing last night. Hard to feel bad for them when they sat one of their best pitchers. They seem to be assuming they will be back in the playoffs, that this wasn't their one chance - wait until they find out it doesn't really work that way. If I'm someone like Ryan Zimmerman... gotta be a little bitter, especially when he played with a lot of pain this year and went through some TERRIBLE seasons.

As far as STL hatred, I have detailed my reasons before, but my #1 reason for disliking STL is actually gone - TLR. However, I also can't stand the way the media makes their fans out to be saints, when they are just like every other fans. They leave early, boo, and bandwagon (it's harder to tell they bandwagon, because their team almost never sucks ) But a big part of why I don't want them to win this year is simply that they won last year.

 

[burgie12]

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-----------------------------------------------------
| Series  |   Most Likely   ||        Actual        |
|         | Outcome |   %   || Outcome |   %   | Rk |
-----------------------------------------------------
| SFGvCIN |  CIN 4  | 19.12 ||  SFG 5  | 18.56 |  3 |
| STLvWSN |  WSN 4  | 24.46 ||  STL 5  | 15.06 |  4 |
| DETvOAK |  OAK 4  | 23.18 ||  DET 5  | 16.03 |  4 |
| BALvNYY |  NYY 4  | 19.66 ||  NYY 5  | 19.18 |  2 |
-----------------------------------------------------

Rk represents the Rank of likelihood of the actual outcome coming into the series (out of 6).

I'd just like to point out that the four teams that I was cheering for all lost. I can pretty much guarantee that it's going to be the Yankees over the Cards in the World Series.

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|    Team   | BRAPB |  RRWP  |  SOS  |
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| Yankees   | 165.4 | 0.6246 | 116.4 |
| Tigers    | 126.0 | 0.5580 | 105.2 |
| Giants    | 124.1 | 0.5542 |  89.5 |
| Cardinals | 104.2 | 0.5103 |  86.1 |
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|  Series   |       | Each |          Advances in          || Makes |
|           | BRAPB | Game |   4   |   5   |   6   |   7   ||  WS   |
---------------------------------------------------------------------
| Cardinals | 104.2 | 45.6 |  4.34 |  9.44 | 12.83 | 13.94 || 40.5% |
| Giants    | 124.1 | 54.4 |  8.73 | 15.94 | 18.19 | 16.60 || 59.5% |
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| Tigers    | 126.0 | 43.2 |  3.49 |  7.93 | 11.26 | 12.78 || 35.5% |
| Yankees   | 165.4 | 56.8 | 10.38 | 17.96 | 19.41 | 16.78 || 64.5% |
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, the maths say that the Yanks and Giants are going to meet in the World Series after winning their respective LCSs in 6 games.

 

[sagard]

Because he is the ONLY manager who will swap pitchers for matchups when the need arises, right? If you honestly hate the Yankees for that (or partially for that...)....

Pineda is our one classy thing? Shucks, such a nice thing for you to say

Rivera is class.

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

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Rivera is class.

I know who you meant, I was just busting some balls.

Silly scheduling by MLB means that the top AL team has to play 5 straight playoff games. Can't remember a year that has happened, even with rain outs. Yes, they are all at home, but am I not remembering correctly that there is typically a rest day between DS and CS for both leagues?

 

[MaizeRage]

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Silly scheduling by MLB means that the top AL team has to play 5 straight playoff games. Can't remember a year that has happened, even with rain outs. Yes, they are all at home, but am I not remembering correctly that there is typically a rest day between DS and CS for both leagues?

Their rest day was the wildcard playoff day.

 

[unofan]

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was thinking the exact same thing last night. Hard to feel bad for them when they sat one of their best pitchers. They seem to be assuming they will be back in the playoffs, that this wasn't their one chance - wait until they find out it doesn't really work that way. If I'm someone like Ryan Zimmerman... gotta be a little bitter, especially when he played with a lot of pain this year and went through some TERRIBLE seasons.

As far as STL hatred, I have detailed my reasons before, but my #1 reason for disliking STL is actually gone - TLR. However, I also can't stand the way the media makes their fans out to be saints, when they are just like every other fans. They leave early, boo, and bandwagon (it's harder to tell they bandwagon, because their team almost never sucks ) But a big part of why I don't want them to win this year is simply that they won last year.

I'd normally root for the Nationals, but sitting Strausburg, I hope they go on a Cubs/Giants/Red Sox-esque run of decades without even sniffing a world series title. ******* them.

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

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Their rest day was the wildcard playoff day.

That should have come from the extra travel day in the usual ALDS format. Instead of 2-travel-2-travel-1, they went 2-travel-3.

Last year, both AL teams would have had a rest day between ALDS and ALCS (Tex got 3, due to winning in 4, however if a 5th game was needed, they still would have had 1 rest day. Both NL teams went 5 games in ALDS and also had a rest day before playing the NLCS.

2 years ago, Texas had TWO rest days before ALCS, despite playing all 5 games.

I understand the complaints about baseball playing into November and the shortening of the season, but until they cut games, they shouldn't be compacting the playoff schedule to make up for it, IMO. I would be making the same complaints if it was the NL teams having to play 5 straight days in the playoffs.

For the CS-WS this year, they do have 2 rest days scheduled for AL, and 1 for NL.

 

[J.D.]

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I was rooting for the Tigers in the WS a few years back, the Rangers last year and the Nationals this year. That has led to my hatred of the Cardinals. Don't get me wrong, I admire their never say die attitude...I'm just tired of them winning. I don't actually hate their manager or their players.

As for the Nationals, I have no problem with what they did with Strasburg. The plan was put in place before anyone knew they'd even have a good team this year. For a franchise that has been so terrible for many years, I find it silly that some are questioning the protection of a young stud coming off TJ and also protecting the future of your franchise, rather than mortgaging it for one year in which you're guaranteed nothing.

 

[unofan]

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I was rooting for the Tigers in the WS a few years back, the Rangers last year and the Nationals this year. That has led to my hatred of the Cardinals. Don't get me wrong, I admire their never say die attitude...I'm just tired of them winning. I don't actually hate their manager or their players.

As for the Nationals, I have no problem with what they did with Strasburg. The plan was put in place before anyone knew they'd even have a good team this year. For a franchise that has been so terrible for many years, I find it silly that some are questioning the protection of a young stud coming off TJ and also protecting the future of your franchise, rather than mortgaging it for one year in which you're guaranteed nothing.

You're still guaranteed nothing. He could get hurt again the first day of spring training next year.

If they wanted to limit his innings even after realizing they had a good team this year, they should've shut him down in July and then brought him back in late August so he could go in the playoffs (like what happened with Prior in 2003 unintentionally - he came back and was a machine the rest of that year, going something like 12-1 including the playoffs).

As it is, they tempted fate and lost out this year. Hopefully fate tells 'em to fark off for the next 20 or so to teach them a lesson.

 

[DrDemento]

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-----------------------------------------------------
| Series  |   Most Likely   ||        Actual        |
|         | Outcome |   %   || Outcome |   %   | Rk |
-----------------------------------------------------
| SFGvCIN |  CIN 4  | 19.12 ||  SFG 5  | 18.56 |  3 |
| STLvWSN |  WSN 4  | 24.46 ||  STL 5  | 15.06 |  4 |
| DETvOAK |  OAK 4  | 23.18 ||  DET 5  | 16.03 |  4 |
| BALvNYY |  NYY 4  | 19.66 ||  NYY 5  | 19.18 |  2 |
-----------------------------------------------------

Rk represents the Rank of likelihood of the actual outcome coming into the series (out of 6).

I'd just like to point out that the four teams that I was cheering for all lost. I can pretty much guarantee that it's going to be the Yankees over the Cards in the World Series.

--------------------------------------
|    Team   | BRAPB |  RRWP  |  SOS  |
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| Yankees   | 165.4 | 0.6246 | 116.4 |
| Tigers    | 126.0 | 0.5580 | 105.2 |
| Giants    | 124.1 | 0.5542 |  89.5 |
| Cardinals | 104.2 | 0.5103 |  86.1 |
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---------------------------------------------------------------------
|  Series   |       | Each |          Advances in          || Makes |
|           | BRAPB | Game |   4   |   5   |   6   |   7   ||  WS   |
---------------------------------------------------------------------
| Cardinals | 104.2 | 45.6 |  4.34 |  9.44 | 12.83 | 13.94 || 40.5% |
| Giants    | 124.1 | 54.4 |  8.73 | 15.94 | 18.19 | 16.60 || 59.5% |
---------------------------------------------------------------------
| Tigers    | 126.0 | 43.2 |  3.49 |  7.93 | 11.26 | 12.78 || 35.5% |
| Yankees   | 165.4 | 56.8 | 10.38 | 17.96 | 19.41 | 16.78 || 64.5% |
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, the maths say that the Yanks and Giants are going to meet in the World Series after winning their respective LCSs in 6 games.

Burgie-not much on the odds and the numbers but if this is the Cards (who i am not so sure can get by the Giants at all) and the Yankees(who should get to the WS) then it could be very much like 1964. i would not ruling out 7 game series for each series going forward this year. This has been some exciting stuff and as you have pointed out-none of the odds and numbers really held up for all the previous series played this year.

 

[state of hockey]

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Was it dumb to sit Strasburg? Sure. Did it make me want the Nationals to lose to the effing Cardinals? No. Does it make me want them to lose for twenty years? That's just silliness and I hope I never take sports as seriously as anyone who does. Ridiculous.