MLB 2010: Hope Springs Eternal

[nmu_27]

Re: MLB 2010: Hope Springs Eternal

Actually, getting that call correct 99.9% of the time lands you in your local little league and maybe occasionally umpiring for the local high school kids. Getting paid to make that call and you better get it right a whole lot more often than 999 times out of 1000.

How long do you wager it takes for 1000 of those plays to happen? Just curious.

Especially considering that the umpires rotate.

 

[JF_Gophers]

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How long do you wager it takes for 1000 of those plays to happen? Just curious.

Especially considering that the umpires rotate.

Well assuming his crew stayed together the entire season he would get 45-50 shots at being at first base. But that kind of play can happen at any base.

So if it happened once per game, per season at that umps base/plate... about 5.5 seasons.

 

[thecomicbookguy]

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First of all, I haven't seen the play... So I am not gonna comment on Joyce's actual call yet...

But if you are gonna rip on him, how about we tell the situation like it is... At the MLB Level, 1/2 step is a hell of a lot faster than many people here can comprehend... It's a hell of a lot tougher than many people think to call safe/out...

An ump at the MLB level should have no trouble making that call.

Watch the replay. This was a fairly routine play.

For all intents and purposes, that should be considered a perfect game. There's not even any gray area in the replay. He was out, ballgame over.

 

[RaceBoarder]

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How long do you wager it takes for 1000 of those plays to happen? Just curious.

Especially considering that the umpires rotate.

Well considering that every game that an ump works behind the plate he sees ~225-250 pitches that need to be called... Add in another 40-50 "other" calls behind the plate... On the bases, there are probably 40-60 calls per game... Since these guys also work every day, the numbers add up quickly...

And this isn't counting "non-calls", where the blue has to watch for something like a balk, fan interference, etc... All in all, they make well over 1,000 decisions in a week, and I am sure that they are batting .999 on them...

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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But that kind of play can happen at any base.

No, it can't...at any other base he's sliding, not running through it.

 

[JF_Gophers]

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No, it can't...at any other base he's sliding, not running through it.

I meant a close play, between the runner and the ball.

Also, Nick Punto slides into first, so eliminate any games he's involved in.

 

[huskyfan]

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An ump at the MLB level should have no trouble making that call.

Watch the replay. This was a fairly routine play.

For all intents and purposes, that should be considered a perfect game. There's not even any gray area in the replay. He was out, ballgame over.

he was out by a full step or more. it wasn't even close.

 

[one_to7]

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He had about the worst possible angle to make the call: directly up the line about 20 feet away.

So instead of some kind of angle where he can see the foot coming down, he's partially blocked by the pitcher so he doesn't have a perfectly clear shot. No clue why he's not over in foul territory for this...

Whatever, he's human, he made a mistake he admitted it. If you're talking about half step plays at first base...if say 6 of those happen per game, it'd take roughly one season (166 games) for there to be 1,000 of them. Since umps rotate, it'd take about 4 seasons for one ump to see 1,000 such chances. And personally I think 6 per game is probably a high estimate.

Either way, making one mistake every 4-5 years is uh, pretty good at any level

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

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If he's in a bad angle, you move to make sure you get the play right. You don't act lazy.

 

[Greyeagle]

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Either way, making one mistake every 4-5 years is uh, pretty good at any level

Joyce can now hang out with Don Denkinger, the NFL moron who doesn't know heads from tails, and pretty much every WCHA ref.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

Re: MLB 2010: Hope Springs Eternal

Joyce can now hang out with Don Denkinger, the NFL moron who doesn't know heads from tails, and pretty much every WCHA ref.

Don't forget the ump that blew the call at 2nd in the Twins game earlier this year...

 

[The Rube]

Re: MLB 2010: Hope Springs Eternal

Joyce can now hang out with Don Denkinger, the NFL moron who doesn't know heads from tails, and pretty much every WCHA ref.

Note: the ref, Phil Luckett, who doesn't know heads from tails was proven innocent on that deal, thanks to audio that surfaced afterwards. Bettis said, "Heads-tails" IIRC.

And let's look at this from a neutral point of view. It wasn't the World Series. It wasn't even the playoffs. I've seen worse calls in Twins games this year. And we laughed about it or cried about it (depending).

I've already seen (elsewhere, on non-fan sites) calls for a firing. Get a grip, people. We all make mistakes. The only reason this is such a huge issue is that it was a perfect game.

A couple days ago, a game was WON on a controversial balk call. At least tonight the team that was "supposed" to win, won. The only thing lost was a piece of history. Sad, yes, but not world-ending.

 

[NMU8405]

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Something big is going to come of this. I'm just not sure what.

Computer chips in the balls fed to a supercomputer in New York City.

Or all games will be played from a bunker deep under the earth through a simulator much like how the U.S.A. conducts Drone strikes.

 

[The Rube]

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The ump just blew a pickoff call in the 1-0 Twins game.

FIRE HIM!!1!111!!!

 

[RaceBoarder]

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I wouldn't say that Joyce's positioning on this play was bad at all... When you are in a footrace situation, you want to be on the line... The further you move into fair/foul territory, the more likely you are to be blocked by either the pitcher or batter-runner... You also want to remain "square" to the direction of the throw, which in this case, was coming from 2nd base... Moving into foul territory kills that angle as well...

 

[Greyeagle]

Re: MLB 2010: Hope Springs Eternal

The ump just blew a pickoff call in the 1-0 Twins game.

FIRE HIM!!1!111!!!

Morneau called heads-tails instead of tails-heads.

 

[GreatLakerMohawk]

Re: MLB 2010: Hope Springs Eternal

Break the union and get robot umpires.

 

[Twitch Boy]

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Break the union and get robot umpires.

 

[Greyeagle]

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Break the union and get robot umpires.

I'd love to see Gardy argue with C3PO because he'd fold like a tent but I'm afraid Rosie from the Jetson's would have a quick hook.

 

[The Rube]

Re: MLB 2010: Hope Springs Eternal

I'd love to see Gardy argue with C3PO because he'd fold like a tent but I'm afraid Rosie from the Jetson's would have a quick hook.

Dot Matrix would kick all of their arses.