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Minnesotans Still Arguing About the Weather...

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So the weatherman this morning states, "Winter is over for record keeping purposes". Things like snowiest Winter and coldest Winter are measured from Dec - Feb. So if Winter is over, why was in -3 when I left for work this morning?
 
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I thought the snow was bad at my house, but it is worse at my parents farm. My dad can't keep the steers in because the packed snow in the yard is so deep that there is only one wire left above the snow, and they can just step over it. The roads are just as bad, in places where there is some room for the wind to blow a bit, there are 15-20 foot walls of snow on the sides of the road, where they have to blow through it with a snowblower whenever the wind blows. With frost a reported 5-6 feet deep....it could be a very, very long spring.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
We must have gotten more snow up my way, or less melting in the woods or something. There is no way it is only 20 inches from my feet to my crotch. (ok, I may be thowing a hanging curve here) ;)
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The woods will hold a lot more snow. You got the wind break right there to catch drifts, plus the shade effect as well on the snow.

hockeyplayer1015 said:
I have talked to numerous people now who work on the towboats with me, and we are all bracing ourselves for a brutal high water season this spring. Not only because of the snowmelt from up north, but there is significant icing on portions of the upper Mississippi, Illionois, and Ohio rivers.

The only saving grace would be if the melt off is VERY gradual. But if the switch flips and the north goes from below freezing to 50's and 60's... it isn't going to be pretty down south.
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Yeah, if the melt hits all at once, there's going to be places on the river you guys can't use because the bridges are too low. And hell, Grand Forks and Fargo might as well start filling sandbags now.
bigblue_dl said:
I thought the snow was bad at my house, but it is worse at my parents farm. My dad can't keep the steers in because the packed snow in the yard is so deep that there is only one wire left above the snow, and they can just step over it. The roads are just as bad, in places where there is some room for the wind to blow a bit, there are 15-20 foot walls of snow on the sides of the road, where they have to blow through it with a snowblower whenever the wind blows. With frost a reported 5-6 feet deep....it could be a very, very long spring.
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****, and I thought it was bad here with getting animals out. I've been having to plow the gates out and then dumping manure around them just to melt the ice down. Mom has been having a hell of a time getting the horses outside here.
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
I have talked to numerous people now who work on the towboats with me, and we are all bracing ourselves for a brutal high water season this spring. Not only because of the snowmelt from up north, but there is significant icing on portions of the upper Mississippi, Illionois, and Ohio rivers.

The only saving grace would be if the melt off is VERY gradual. But if the switch flips and the north goes from below freezing to 50's and 60's... it isn't going to be pretty down south.
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I heard that the ice on Lake Itasca is 30" thick. Itasca is the headwaters of the Mississippi, and I've heard a many of the other "lakes" that make up part of the river have similar numbers.
 
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30 inches of ice wouldn't be that uncommon in Maine. I'll bet there are lots of lakes around here with that amount
 
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walrus said:
30 inches of ice wouldn't be that uncommon in Maine. I'll bet there are lots of lakes around here with that amount
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Yeah, but when you think of it this way, the vast majority of the rivers from eastern Montana to Ohio or western Pennsylvania flow south, and many of them feed into the Mississippi River, so if we get a fast melt from MN to MT, you're going to see a huge flooding from about Iowa on down to New Orleans again. We've had a lot of snow and ice build up over winter that simply hasn't been able to get their occasional melts during the season this year that we normally see. Like hp105 was saying, highwater issues will abound.
 
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walrus said:
30 inches of ice wouldn't be that uncommon in Maine. I'll bet there are lots of lakes around here with that amount
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It's actually pretty thin for Itasca - usually well over 3' at this time.
 
St. Clown said:
Yeah, but when you think of it this way, the vast majority of the rivers from eastern Montana to Ohio or western Pennsylvania flow south, and many of them feed into the Mississippi River, so if we get a fast melt from MN to MT, you're going to see a huge flooding from about Iowa on down to New Orleans again. We've had a lot of snow and ice build up over winter that simply hasn't been able to get their occasional melts during the season this year that we normally see. Like hp105 was saying, highwater issues will abound.
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Yep. 2011 saw historic flooding all the way down the Mississippi. The "100 year flood" type stuff. Hope we don't see a repeat of that, made for a mean, mean river.
 
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St. Clown said:
Yeah, but when you think of it this way, the vast majority of the rivers from eastern Montana to Ohio or western Pennsylvania flow south, and many of them feed into the Mississippi River, so if we get a fast melt from MN to MT, you're going to see a huge flooding from about Iowa on down to New Orleans again. We've had a lot of snow and ice build up over winter that simply hasn't been able to get their occasional melts during the season this year that we normally see. Like hp105 was saying, highwater issues will abound.
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OK, not sure what the ice thickness has to do with though. Ice dams might be an issue I suppose. probably won't be nice to live on the river this spring.
 
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St. Clown said:
Yeah, but when you think of it this way, the vast majority of the rivers from eastern Montana to Ohio or western Pennsylvania flow south, and many of them feed into the Mississippi River, so if we get a fast melt from MN to MT, you're going to see a huge flooding from about Iowa on down to New Orleans again. We've had a lot of snow and ice build up over winter that simply hasn't been able to get their occasional melts during the season this year that we normally see. Like hp105 was saying, highwater issues will abound.
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And if you're along a river like the Red that flows north, well, you had better be stacking sand bags right now.
 
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walrus said:
30 inches of ice wouldn't be that uncommon in Maine. I'll bet there are lots of lakes around here with that amount
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Yeah, that isn't uncommon here either, I don't know why people would make a big deal about that.

edit: what goldy said.
 
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Saw on the news that as of right now the current flood threat is low. That can change if we get a quick and drastic warmup.
 
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Biddco said:
Saw on the news that as of right now the current flood threat is low. That can change if we get a quick and drastic warmup.
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Somewhat ironic in that, two years ago, there was widespread concern around here about low water levels in the reservoirs because there was so little snow in the preceding winter....
 
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FreshFish said:
Somewhat ironic in that, two years ago, there was widespread concern around here about low water levels in the reservoirs because there was so little snow in the preceding winter....
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Such is nature. Just like how California is in a drought and then they finally get rain...and it's too much too fast.
 
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It's supposed to be 44 today. 4-9" in the next 30 hours or so.
 
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