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Minnesotans Arguing About the Weather III: Storm's a comin'

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dxmnkd316 said:
Wrong. Wrong wrong. Wrong. By the end of this we'll have had 18". Which is smack dab in the center of the range that was given Sunday.
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Maybe you will...we won't. And stop pretending they weren't fear mongering way worse than that.

You should see some of the NWS models...crazy!
 
Handyman said:
Maybe you will...we won't. And stop pretending they weren't fear mongering way worse than that.

You should see some of the NWS models...crazy!
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yeah, they don't give you a personalized street to street forecast. They said the Twin Cities.

They weren't fear mongering. They were warning people to be prepared. Anything approaching two feet is a massive event in Minnesota. Especially with these winds. From the beginning they've been saying 12-24". I even said they were being cagey.

Everyone is acting like management (in reverse) when you give them a ballpark budget estimate.
"How much?"
"$50-$75 million plus or minus 50%"
six months passes
"Ok, we've refined our budget. Going to be 80 million plus or minus ten percent"
"You said it was going to be $50 million"
"no, I didn't"
 
I don't care that they (the NWS) were wrong its a guessing game at best and a tiny shift in the wind can screw everything up. I just wish they acknowledged the truth more and admitted they were off and spend time explaining why.

Local news though fear mongers and you know it. The Goof on the Roof has been doing it since he was at KARE11. They know Minnesotans care about the weather above all else so they put their thumbs on the scales.
 
They weren't wrong. I don't know how to say this any clearer. They said 12-24" and that's exactly what we're going to get.
 
Handyman said:
Local news though fear mongers and you know it. The Goof on the Roof has been doing it since he was at KARE11. They know Minnesotans care about the weather above all else so they put their thumbs on the scales.
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Local news is always fear mongering, whether it's The Big Storm or moral panic. What annoys me is the Weather Channel got into the same game. They are supposed to be professionals.
 
Kepler said:
Local news is always fear mongering, whether it's The Big Storm or moral panic. What annoys me is the Weather Channel got into the same game. They are supposed to be professionals.
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I noticed their shift from weather to entertainment/weather in the late 2000s, early 2010s. Their website also went from weather to “Holy SH-T look at this car floating in a swollen river!!!” I guess they just wanted to keep eyeballs like everyone else.
 
Kepler said:
Local news is always fear mongering, whether it's The Big Storm or moral panic. What annoys me is the Weather Channel got into the same game. They are supposed to be professionals.
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The weather channel is the worst of them all and the first to make the jump
 
Kepler said:
Local news is always fear mongering, whether it's The Big Storm or moral panic. What annoys me is the Weather Channel got into the same game. They are supposed to be professionals.
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Its all about hits on the website now. Storm of the century every other week. Whiles its cold and windy here, we got 2 inches tops. Everything is canceled for what amounts to a snow flurry
 
Handyman said:
I don't care that they (the NWS) were wrong its a guessing game at best and a tiny shift in the wind can screw everything up. I just wish they acknowledged the truth more and admitted they were off and spend time explaining why.

Local news though fear mongers and you know it. The Goof on the Roof has been doing it since he was at KARE11. They know Minnesotans care about the weather above all else so they put their thumbs on the scales.
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How were they wrong? We were skating along, enjoying a couple of weeks of clear skies, temps in the mid-30's and little to no wind. They told us that Wednesday and Thursday we were going to get a bunch of snow and wind, and guess what, we got a bunch of snow and wind. They are "wrong" only in the sense that you are holding them to a standard that when they say the high is going to be 79 degrees and it turns out to only get to 75, you're unhappy about it.

The other thing is that if they say that we're going to get 18 inches of snow and 30 mph winds, and we only get 12 inches and 20 mph winds, the consequences for the population are pretty much zero, other than blowing a few bucks on calling out the National Guard, or calling off some useless high school basketball game.

On the other hand, if they tell us two feet of storm surge and we get 10 feet, or they tell us 5 inches of snow and 10 mph winds, and we get 18 inches and 35 mph winds, the consequences can be deadly.
 
SJHovey said:
How were they wrong? We were skating along, enjoying a couple of weeks of clear skies, temps in the mid-30's and little to no wind. They told us that Wednesday and Thursday we were going to get a bunch of snow and wind, and guess what, we got a bunch of snow and wind. They are "wrong" only in the sense that you are holding them to a standard that when they say the high is going to be 79 degrees and it turns out to only get to 75, you're unhappy about it.

The other thing is that if they say that we're going to get 18 inches of snow and 30 mph winds, and we only get 12 inches and 20 mph winds, the consequences for the population are pretty much zero, other than blowing a few bucks on calling out the National Guard, or calling off some useless high school basketball game.

On the other hand, if they tell us two feet of storm surge and we get 10 feet, or they tell us 5 inches of snow and 10 mph winds, and we get 18 inches and 35 mph winds, the consequences can be deadly.
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Bingo. It's not being dramatic or trying to scare us, this is an extremely important warning system. "Forecast says 12-24 inches, but you should be prepared for 24" and 35 mph winds." That's really, really good advice and I hope they keep doing that. I'd rather we're overprepared 100% of the time than underprepared even 10%.

All we need to do is look at the difference between the Armistice Day Blizzard and this week's event to know what can happen if we're not prepared.
 
Oh, and they do this 48-96 hours out. That's incredible. It's one of the limited cases where humans can predict something that far out with really good accuracy.
 
Friends' flight to Tampa was cancelled. Not sure when they're getting out for obvious reasons.

then their power went out at midnight. Still off. Just a clusterfuck and I feel terrible for them.

we got 10"+ of insanely sticky heavy snow. Chain link fences look like solid fences. It's really weird. Trees are hunched over. Our lilacs... our poor lilacs... they look like creeping red fescue now...
 
Got home and it was raining/hailing...woke up and car got stuck in the wet snow at the end of my driveway. (We were plowed in) beyond that everything works so we got lucky.
 
The MDX almost got stuck on our street. We haven't been plowed yet.

Punching through the plow berm on the main road was fun though.
 
Edina plowed me in. I’ve never seen a berm extend so far into my driveway.
I cleared two paths for tires to back out. That’s all I’m doing, fuck this. I’m not having a thrown out back the week of Tampa
 
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