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Minnesota Women's Hockey 2015-2016: Confection Free

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With their personnel it is hard to believe they have a penalty kill that operates around 80% (although it has been better of late). On the other hand, the power play has been just plain ridiculousl at 50%! And not just a few games but for basically the whole season! That is part of the enigma that is GWH this year.
By using the term ridiculous, you are guilty of understatement! Utterly unprecedented, otherworldly, superhuman... something along those lines would be closer.

You piqued my curiosity, so I checked the record books:

Current Gopher PP Conversion Rate
51.9%
(42 of 81 Attempts)

All-time Record for Women's D-1
32.7%
(53 of 162 Attempts) Minnesota 2014

All-Time Record For Men's D-1
42.3%
(89 of 210 Attempts) Clarkson 1977

If the Gopher Women maintain their current pace or even come close, they won't merely best those records; they'll obliterate them. Remarkable.
 
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By using the term ridiculous, you are guilty of understatement! Utterly unprecedented, otherworldly, superhuman... something along those lines would be closer.

You piqued my curiosity, so I checked the record books:

Current Gopher PP Conversion Rate
51.9%
(42 of 81 Attempts)

All-time Record for Women's D-1
32.7%
(53 of 162 Attempts) Minnesota 2014

All-Time Record For Men's D-1
42.3%
(89 of 210 Attempts) Clarkson 1977

If the Gopher Women maintain their current pace or even come close, they won't merely best those records; they'll obliterate them. Remarkable.

Guilty as charged. Not to nitpick but I think the official stats have the Gophers at 41 of 81 on the PP which means they're ONLY operating at 50.62%. :)

I'm not sure why the Gophers only have 81 power play opportunities other than to say it does make one curious...
 
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I'm not sure why the Gophers only have 81 power play opportunities other than to say it does make one curious...
I'm sure more than one opposing coach has instructed his team to avoid taking any unnecessary penalties. ;)
 
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BTW-those 2 Kate Schipper to Dani Cameranesi boom, boom plays last weekend were worth a thumbs up 👍

Like to see more of that in the next few weeks!
 
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I think FiveHoleFrenzy's assessment of the season, to date, is spot on. Now the question is, can everyone on the team from the goaltender on out become more consistent the rest of the way? Will the forwards be able to capitalize on more of their glorious opportunities, will the D take care of the puck and not turn it over unnecessarily, and will the goaltending be rock solid when it has to be? They will need all of these to come away with a sweep this weekend, which no doubt would do wonders for their confidence heading into the playoffs.

FWIW - I thought Leveille looked a lot more solid the last couple of weekends, she seemed t play with a lot of confidence. I take that as a good sign.
 
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FWIW - I thought Leveille looked a lot more solid the last couple of weekends, she seemed t play with a lot of confidence. I take that as a good sign.
I didn't see the games in Duluth, but would agree she has looked confident and has come up big as of late. She'll definitely get tested this weekend, and if she plays well it should boost her confidence even more heading into the playoffs.
 
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FWIW - I thought Leveille looked a lot more solid the last couple of weekends, she seemed t play with a lot of confidence. I take that as a good sign.

If you think 5 gaa on 44 shots this last weekend is solid/a good sign, more power to you. I guess you have to think the way you have to to sleep sound at night. ;)
 
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If you think 5 gaa on 44 shots this last weekend is solid/a good sign, more power to you. I guess you have to think the way you have to to sleep sound at night. ;)
Two of the goals were given up by the backup tender, so Leveille was 27/30 (.900).
 
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"YES" to your post.
Last year they played the frozen four with 5 defensemen. I could see them trying to play the top 4 as much as possible during the NCAA's this year.

Nothing unusual about that, 2014 championship played with 4, 2015 with 5.

Sometimes I think when they are playing these lopsided games this year's team cannot maintain their discipline on defense.
spot on IMO, like a pack of wolves, they all want to get in on the feeding frenzy
the good thing there is that when they put their mind to it, they get the job done




It seems like some great plays and setups are left on the table due to something just slightly off with the shot, or not quite handling the pass to finish, etc. ...
how many times has it been that shots from the point have been high or wide?
a comment from the Blake - Breck game would be appropiate here, take a quick shot rather than taking the time to set up, which also gives the D & goalie time to set up

After the men’s team Tom Pederson (late 80’s, early 90’s), everyone else is Annie Oakley by comparison. I swear 2/3 of his shots were wide and/or high. He’d have scored 20+ a year if he put all his shots on net.

I don't think Amanda Kessel has much of a future as a defenseman.

Remember the game Bemidji beat the Gophers last year, Stephanie Anderson scoring the winning goal? The defender was a forward. The forward switched from playing the player to playing the puck, that transition gave Anderson an opening to shoot. Contrast that with the great play Stecklein made on the 2 on 1 against UND a couple weekends ago. Covered the pass until it was too late to pass, then kept the puck carrier from getting a shot on goal.
If someone needs a video of how to play a 2 on 1, there it is.
It’s fine for a forward to hang back at the blueline to cover for a blueliner who is taking it to the net or joining the offensive play, but if the play goes the other way and gets beyond the neutral zone, the goalie better pray because it’s gonna take an act of god with a forward trying to stop it.


The ongoing concern I have is that I'm just not sold on Brooke Garzone as a defenseman. She's never looked comfortable back there and I was hoping that when she spent the entire first half as a third line wing that it was permanent. She looked really good there, but not so much in the last two weeks.

From a roster standpoint, moving Garzone to D makes sense during the regular season to maximize everyone’s playing time, but come crunch time I’d rather see her at wing on the third line. They’ll likely go with 4 D anyway, with Kline as the 5th. I wish she had shot more and taken it to the net herself instead of passing as she is apt to do. It may be a holdover from last year when she was always pulled off the ice to start a line change after making the outlet pass from the Gopher zone, or once the puck was being advanced thru the neutral zone. I don't think she ever entered the offensive zone, except from the Gopher bench. At least until the NCAA.
Her goal against the Badgers, I forget who made the pass, was the prettiest offensive play of this year, IMO. So far anyway.
If not, I guess she'll be well rested for the PK.
 
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Guilty as charged. Not to nitpick but I think the official stats have the Gophers at 41 of 81 on the PP which means they're ONLY operating at 50.62%. :)
FWIW, I got the 42 of 81 stat from www.gophersports.com. Could the U of M site be one conversion off? Sure. And of course there's no material difference between the two stats, as per your smiley.
 
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FWIW, I got the 42 of 81 stat from www.gophersports.com. Could the U of M site be one attempt off? Sure. And of course there's no material difference between the two stats, as per your smiley.
Decided to take the time and go digging. (Yes, I have no life.)

41 appears to be the correct number. The box score on GopherSports for the Nov. 14 home game against Bemidji State shows Taylor Williamson's goal at 6:11 of the second period as occurring on the power play, while the version on CollegeHockeyStats.net is pretty clear that the penalty box was vacated 7 seconds earlier and the goal was at even strength. I'm going with the latter version.

EDIT: BSU had taken 2 penalties at the 4:04 mark of the second period. That put the Gophers on their second power play of the game. Hannah Brandt scored 5-on-3 at the 4:57 mark to "end" the second power play and start the third power play (5-on-4). But given the later PP opportunity start time, the info people missed the fact that the second Beaver penalty expired at 6:04.

EDIT #2: The person who works in the office of the U. of M. Sports Information Director just confirmed to me that 41 is the right number, and that she hadn't had time to track down the discrepancy.
 
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Remember the game Bemidji beat the Gophers last year, Stephanie Anderson scoring the winning goal? The defender was a forward. The forward switched from playing the player to playing the puck, that transition gave Anderson an opening to shoot.
Although Anderson didn't shoot; she kicked it in. ;)
 
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Decided to take the time and go digging. (Yes, I have no life.)
Life or no, I'm impressed. Thanks.:)

...while the version on CollegeHockeyStats.net is pretty clear that the penalty box was vacated 7 seconds earlier and the goal was at even strength. I'm going with the latter version.
Which of course means that the number of conversions was one off, not the number of attempts. Fixed my comment from a few posts back.

EDIT: BSU had taken 2 penalties at the 4:04 mark of the second period. That put the Gophers on their second power play of the game. Hannah Brandt scored 5-on-3 at the 4:57 mark to "end" the second power play and start the third power play (5-on-4). But given the later PP opportunity start time, the info people missed the fact that the second Beaver penalty expired at 6:04.
You probably already know this. But statistically the Brandt goal wasn't needed to create the second power play. In this scenario, two penalties = two attempts. Why? Because two is the maximum number of goals that could be scored during the manpower advantage.

EDIT #2: The person who works in the office of the U. of M. Sports Information Director just confirmed to me that 41 is the right number, and that she hadn't had time to track down the discrepancy.
While she may have thought you have no life, she had to be pleased that someone cared enough to do the digging. Again, :)
 
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Two of the goals were given up by the backup tender, so Leveille was 27/30 (.900).

Dang. Facts screw up another post. I should have recalled that, I did check the box score. Of course a .90 save % in a game in this day and age still stinks.
 
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Although Anderson didn't shoot; she kicked it in. ;)

sorry, quoted wrong player & wrong game, it was at Ridder, must have been the Lauren Miller goal in the 2-2 tie, I do remember the Gopher, who will go un-named
 
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Life or no, I'm impressed. Thanks.:)

Which of course means that the number of conversions was one off, not the number of attempts. Fixed my comment from a few posts back.

You probably already know this. But statistically the Brandt goal wasn't needed to create the second power play. In this scenario, two penalties = two attempts. Why? Because two is the maximum number of goals that could be scored during the manpower advantage.

While she may have thought you have no life, she had to be pleased that someone cared enough to do the digging. Again, :)

FWIW I got the stats from this site in the drop down menu of D-1 Women, second column, third item down entitled Statistics. Not sure if they do those themselves or if they use stats from CollegeHockeyStats.net
 
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Dang. Facts screw up another post. I should have recalled that, I did check the box score. Of course a .90 save % in a game in this day and age still stinks.

Two of the goals she gave up were on complete defensive breakdowns: the first of the weekend was when a Gopher defenseman passed the puck out of the corner right to a Bulldog player standing all alone in the slot, and Leveille didn't have time to get over and set. The first goal against on Saturday happened when a Gopher defenseman turned away from a puck sitting in the crease and let a UMD player stuff it in. The third goal she gave up came with 10 seconds left in a game that Minnesota led 6-1.
 
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The power play is amazing and has been discussed. But oddly the numbers also highlight some of the questions about the team.

When a team commits a penalty they are often under duress, out of position or under siege. This team while prolific, actually has incurred half the penalties of the 2014 team. There is a potential that opponents are less 'overwhelmed' by this team than they have been by previous Gopher teams. Of course total speculation here.
 
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The power play is amazing and has been discussed. But oddly the numbers also highlight some of the questions about the team.

When a team commits a penalty they are often under duress, out of position or under siege. This team while prolific, actually has incurred half the penalties of the 2014 team. There is a potential that opponents are less 'overwhelmed' by this team than they have been by previous Gopher teams. Of course total speculation here.

or it could be that officials just aren't calling the things they did the last few years, it seems to me that over the last couple years, and this year especially, they are letting things go that would have been called a couple years ago.
It also seems to me that the gap between the top and bottom players has lessened, with the result that there are fewer occasions for players to have to resort to a penalty to stop a scoring threat.
 
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When a team commits a penalty they are often under duress, out of position or under siege. This team while prolific, actually has incurred half the penalties of the 2014 team. There is a potential that opponents are less 'overwhelmed' by this team than they have been by previous Gopher teams. Of course total speculation here.
Consider a game like Friday in Duluth. UMD was under seige all night, particularly in the second period. Halfway through the second period, the officials quit calling penalties. The Bulldogs were still under seige. So why no more penalties? For one, I'm sure the coaches were trying to impress on their team not to commit any more penalties, and the players were seeing the consequences of doing so. But also, the referees saw it as well. Three penalties called, three power plays awarded, three goals. I've seen it in other seasons as well, where the officials start to realize that they aren't just handing out two minutes in the box, they're likely putting another goal on the scoreboard, and it goes against their nature. They don't want to decide the game. So the arms stay down.
 
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