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Minnesota Women's Hockey 2015-2016: Confection Free

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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
BTW, I have been out of the loop since before Christmas traveling so I am not aware as to why Brandt isn't in the lineup. So I apologize if this is information that is already out there, but does anyone have an info on this?
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Brandt played slowed down by injuries most of the first half, so Frost is trying to heal her up as much as possible for the second half. All signs point to she will be able to play. I'm curious if they will keep her out next week for MSU-Mankato.

I think she would have played today if it was Wisconsin.
 
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KTDC said:
Brandt played slowed down by injuries most of the first half, so Frost is trying to heal her up as much as possible for the second half. All signs point to she will be able to play. I'm curious if they will keep her out next week for MSU-Mankato.

I think she would have played today if it was Wisconsin.
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PPC members and others who are around the arena when the teams are warming up in the concourse in their sweats much before they go down to put on their equipment (you know, an hour and a half before game time) told me that Brandt is physically fine for skating but that she is not completely good with upper body. I was told that one of her arms hurts when she tries to put maximum effort into her shot.

Which if correct, and I have no idea if this is correct, but if correct she would have played if it had been Wisconsin.

But also means that she might not play next weekend either. Unless her arm feels better.

I almost feel like I should phrase that as unless ARM feels better.
 
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About the game, announced attendance of 1,677. Inside the building it felt like less than that to me. Even recognizing that nearly every other women's program would kill for a crowd of that size and even recognizing the football crowd a block and a half away I was disappointed with the number of people in the building. Without the little girls it would have been pretty barren.

The real Gophers showed up in the first period and took control of the game. But the start of the second period was beginning to look like the Saturday game until Frost took his timeout. OSU was playing well and getting good chances. The moment of the timeout was partly an icing by the Gophers with a mixed line of the first line center out with the third line wings at the time of the icing but also it looked like Frost wanted to have a word or two with his student athletes.

By using the timeout the Gophers were allowed to make substitutions and the Gophers came back with the full first line. And with a change in attitude.

And a goal 1:31 after taking the timeout.

And another goal 1:15 after that.

And another goal 33 seconds after that.

Order restored.

A dominant game by a team playing without its best player.
 
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ManBehindTheCurtain said:
PPC members and others who are around the arena when the teams are warming up in the concourse in their sweats much before they go down to put on their equipment (you know, an hour and a half before game time)
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I'm not sure who told you that but I don't think here would be the right place to repeat it if it were true.
 
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ManBehindTheCurtain said:
I am not sure how reporting gossip in a gossip forum is bad form.
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If it were her arm & other teams know that, it would not be the least bit surprising if she found her arm getting whacked more regularly. John Pohl has an issue with his arm & it was known and by the end of the weekend he could hardly hold on to his stick because his forearms were targeted. This, more than just the right to privacy, is why coaches will not discuss these things. Opponents may suspect but its better if they don't know.
 
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For those who may not know this but it is for me an impossibility that you do not know this: I am not an official mouthpiece of the UM women's hockey program.

I am just a fan.

I meet other fans at the game and we gossip. About the game. About the players. About things about which we have absolutely NO ACTUAL INFORMATION. We have only GOSSIP.

Does anyone actually think that USCHO forum gossip about why Brandt didn't play this weekend is going to actually play out into MSU-Mankato players hacking at her arms because they think they can disable her and win what is for a bottom of the league standings team pretty much meaningless games? Are we to believe that MSU players are complete hacks, more interested in injuring their opponents than in playing hockey?

As if???? What????

What exactly is your point?
 
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ManBehindTheCurtain said:
I am not sure how reporting gossip in a gossip forum is bad form.
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During her final season with the Gophers, there were weeks late in the season where Amanda Kessel had problems just gripping her stick due to a wrist injury. She sat out one series, barely got off the bench in the WCHA quarter, but returned for the Final Face-Off. OSU's coach took great pride in holding her without a point in the semifinal, the first game all season where she didn't have a point. Had they known Kessel likely couldn't shoot the puck, maybe they pay less attention to her and her linemates don't wind up scoring three goals.

I always figure that other teams may or may not know the exact injury that players are dealing with, but they certainly don't need to find out about it from me.
 
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ARM said:
I always figure that other teams may or may not know the exact injury that players are dealing with, but they certainly don't need to find out about it from me.
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OK, I get that and that criticism seems totally fair.

Except that I am totally not any one at all and that I absolutely do not have any information of any sort that anyone with half a brain would consider.

I am just gossiping. And I refuse to believe that Johnson or Idalski or anyone of importance thinks that what I have to offer is of any significance at all.

Why would anyone who actually cares consider that my gossip about her arm hurts is of any significance whatsoever?

I mean, REALLY?
 
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ManBehindTheCurtain said:
What exactly is your point?
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My point was very clear, I thought. This is not the place to post this sort of 'gossip'. Why is that so upsetting to you? I wasn't angry, I wasn't insulting, I simply pointed out that the thing you posted would have better been left off. Why are you having such a difficult time with that?
 
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I've always been pleased that there has not been a lot of "gossip" about player's injuries on this forum. In the last 15 years of following gopher women's hockey we've heard a lot of stories about players injuries from parents, grandparents, uncles and other relatives. And not just Gopher player injuries. On our trip to Columbus, an OSU player's father told us about his daughter's struggle with a certain injury she's had since high school. We've always thought that what's said in the breakfast room at the Day's Inn should stay there. Got nothin against some gossip though. Why was Garrison Keillor looking so dour at the Gopher men's game at Mariucci arena the other weekend? I was afraid to ask him how his younger brother and my former teammate on the state softball team (the Tax Dodgers) Steve Keillor was doing?
 
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bluffrinkrat said:
I've always been pleased that there has not been a lot of "gossip" about player's injuries on this forum. In the last 15 years of following gopher women's hockey we've heard a lot of stories about players injuries from parents, grandparents, uncles and other relatives. And not just Gopher player injuries. On our trip to Columbus, an OSU player's father told us about his daughter's struggle with a certain injury she's had since high school. We've always thought that what's said in the breakfast room at the Day's Inn should stay there. Got nothin against some gossip though. Why was Garrison Keillor looking so dour at the Gopher men's game at Mariucci arena the other weekend? I was afraid to ask him how his younger brother and my former teammate on the state softball team (the Tax Dodgers) Steve Keillor was doing?
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Speaking of gossiping about Garrison Keillor...............isn't dourness just his natural state?
 
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ARM said:
During her final season with the Gophers, there were weeks late in the season where Amanda Kessel had problems just gripping her stick due to a wrist injury. She sat out one series, barely got off the bench in the WCHA quarter, but returned for the Final Face-Off. OSU's coach took great pride in holding her without a point in the semifinal, the first game all season where she didn't have a point. Had they known Kessel likely couldn't shoot the puck, maybe they pay less attention to her and her linemates don't wind up scoring three goals.

I always figure that other teams may or may not know the exact injury that players are dealing with, but they certainly don't need to find out about it from me.
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Reporters should never publish negative information about their own team, especially injury or off-the-ice stuff.
 
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ManBehindTheCurtain said:
... I refuse to believe that Johnson or Idalski or anyone of importance thinks that what I have to offer is of any significance at all.

Why would anyone who actually cares consider that my gossip about her arm hurts is of any significance whatsoever?
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Let me preface this by saying it's clear that your intentions were pure as the driven snow. A sincere interest and concern with the players' health speaks well of you.

But people in positions of authority, including sports coaches, do make use of tips from any number of sources. For that reason, I must agree with ARM and ne7minder.

Actual harm? Probably low. If nothing else, Women's D-1 is a lot less cut throat than say, the Men's NHL. But better to err on the side of caution.

EDIT: The fact that you have a good track record on this board -- and you do -- gives your "gossip" a certain amount of credibility. For better or worse, a bit of stature brings with it a bit of responsibility.
 
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The Gophers picked up another win this morning. The "powers that be" apparently decided that the Hall of Fame Game will indeed count in the regular-season records (though still as a non-conference game).
 
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Dourness as a natural state for Garrisson? Probably. He has a heck of a nice brother though, so he's got that going for him.

Glad to read that the Gophers may be picking up 19 more points in their stats, including 3 for Hannah. Turned out to be an even more productive weekend than I thought.

Go Gophers!
 
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bluffrinkrat said:
I've always been pleased that there has not been a lot of "gossip" about player's injuries on this forum. In the last 15 years of following gopher women's hockey we've heard a lot of stories about players injuries from parents, grandparents, uncles and other relatives. And not just Gopher player injuries. On our trip to Columbus, an OSU player's father told us about his daughter's struggle with a certain injury she's had since high school. We've always thought that what's said in the breakfast room at the Day's Inn should stay there. Got nothin against some gossip though. Why was Garrison Keillor looking so dour at the Gopher men's game at Mariucci arena the other weekend? I was afraid to ask him how his younger brother and my former teammate on the state softball team (the Tax Dodgers) Steve Keillor was doing?
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Exactly right!

As for Mr. Keillor, yes, dourness is his natural state. Having met him a couple of times I think there are 3 things in play and my attitude about which of the 3 causes most of it changes depending on what I have heard about him recently and my own mood. He suffers from depression so thats a big one. He is painfully shy and looking sour makes many people leave him alone(as shy guy who plays large in public I think he plays unhappy and standoff-ish as a way to keep the private Gary private the way I play loud for the same affect). He really is something of a jerk. He jokes about the affectations of youth but you know his name is not Garrison and he has several other affectations that could make me think he really does think we are all beneath him - but this might also be part of the second reason. Like I said it varies.
 
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bluffrinkrat said:
Dourness as a natural state for Garrisson? Probably. He has a heck of a nice brother though, so he's got that going for him.

Glad to read that the Gophers may be picking up 19 more points in their stats, including 3 for Hannah. Turned out to be an even more productive weekend than I thought.

Go Gophers!
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I used to work with Amy Klobuchar's sister (and, of course, Jim's daughter - Jim still being a big shot newspaper guy at that time) and thought it must be heII being the kid or sibling to someone in the spotlight. Not just for having to live in the shade but for having to put up with the expectations others have because of the more famous relative.
 
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