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Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

In general, I think it's fair to say that Gopher fans will know a little more about the game than our own kind. It's a shame, but I feel no problem admitting it.

That said, every fanbase has plenty of smart knowledgeable fans, and every fanbase has their share of complete morons. The Law of Averages dictates that although there's probably more "hockey knowledge" west of the St. Croix, the difference isn't anywhere near as pronounced as tArrogance thinks it is. In fact...

Gurtholfin said:
1) "Fill in the Blank"s" fans are some of the least knowledgeable fans they've ever been around. Yeah, coz nobody can hear the Mooch belly-aching in unison every time a Gopher player even stumbles, assuming that it should be a penalty.
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This is absolutely a phenomenon that you see more with gopher fans than any other fanbase I've ever interacted with. You would think that their self-proclaimed "hockey knowledge" would include knowing the rules of what constitutes a penalty, but you'd be wrong.*

At the KC, I once saw a visiting gopher fan throw his hand up and gripe when the Badgers cleared the puck down the ice and there was no whistle for icing.

We were on the penalty kill.

* I have a theory on this. I think this ties into something deeper in the psyche of insecure Minnesota sports fans. I grew up a chedderhead in the Minneapolis suburbs, and you have no idea how many times I was asked by Gophers and Vikings fans about why I wasn't a fan of their team, instead of the Badgers and Packers. The implication was always "Why aren't you a fan? What's wrong with them?", as if I owed it to them to give the rodents and Vikings a shot before declaring my allegiance. And this didn't just happen with idiot middle school-aged kids. This happened, quite often, with adults too... although to be fair, this includes a lot of interactions with the idiot man-children that caddied at the same country club as I did. The point being, any slight against the home team seems to be taken personally there. IMO, this also partially explains why you see more "He slightly impeded our player... PENALTY!!!" reactions in the Mooch than you do elsewhere. Given the choice between the two, I would much prefer the self-imposed isolationism and drunken buffoonery that comes with being a Wisconsin sports fan. The major downfall with our shameful idiocy is that (a) angry drunks are annoying and (b) we come off as a little gauche when we reflexively claim that everything outside of Wisconsin sucks.
 
ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
In general, I think it's fair to say that Gopher fans will know a little more about the game than our own kind. It's a shame, but I feel no problem admitting it.

That said, every fanbase has plenty of smart knowledgeable fans, and every fanbase has their share of complete morons. The Law of Averages dictates that although there's probably more "hockey knowledge" west of the St. Croix, the difference isn't anywhere near as pronounced as tArrogance thinks it is. In fact...

This is absolutely a phenomenon that you see more with gopher fans than any other fanbase I've ever interacted with. You would think that their self-proclaimed "hockey knowledge" would include knowing the rules of what constitutes a penalty, but you'd be wrong.*

At the KC, I once saw a visiting gopher fan throw his hand up and gripe when the Badgers cleared the puck down the ice and there was no whistle for icing.

We were on the penalty kill.

* I have a theory on this. I think this ties into something deeper in the psyche of insecure Minnesota sports fans. I grew up a chedderhead in the Minneapolis suburbs, and you have no idea how many times I was asked by Gophers and Vikings fans about why I wasn't a fan of their team, instead of the Badgers and Packers. The implication was always "Why aren't you a fan? What's wrong with them?", as if I owed it to them to give the rodents and Vikings a shot before declaring my allegiance. And this didn't just happen with idiot middle school-aged kids. This happened, quite often, with adults too... although to be fair, this includes a lot of interactions with the idiot man-children that caddied at the same country club as I did. The point being, any slight against the home team seems to be taken personally there. IMO, this also partially explains why you see more "He slightly impeded our player... PENALTY!!!" reactions in the Mooch than you do elsewhere. Given the choice between the two, I would much prefer the self-imposed isolationism and drunken buffoonery that comes with being a Wisconsin sports fan. The major downfall with our shameful idiocy is that (a) angry drunks are annoying and (b) we come off as a little gauche when we reflexively claim that everything outside of Wisconsin sucks.
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Very fair post. Gopher fan base isn't without their faults either. But I disagree whole-heartedly with your theory. That's just nonsense.

And the knowledge of the game thing really isn't that close. Sorry.
 
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Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

mnstate0fhockey said:
I will certainly agree that, in general, our fan base is too arrogant for sure. It's just a game and this should be for fun. I'll have to disagree with the "doosh-bag" comment. Quite a bit of that from Badger fans last night as well.
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We have a different brand of douuchebaggery that mostly manifests itself as drunken boasting.
 
Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

Gurtholfin said:
Yeah, but we suck this year (and last) and you needed 7 of 8 to catch Jan.

Have fun with that.
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Catching Jan isn't the big picture.

And the Badgers .600 + losing record against the Gophers didn't happen over the past two years and isn't going to change for a long, long, time.

Have fun with that.
 
Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

Go4PuckFan2.0 said:
Catching Jan isn't the big picture.
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B.S. You guys wanted that Cup till it was out of reach.

I agree though that the bigger picture is what matters most and that's why I couldn't care less about the lifetime record between our teams. Natties are all that matters.

Everything else is window dressing.
 
Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

Gurtholfin said:
B.S. You guys wanted that Cup till it was out of reach.

I agree though that the bigger picture is what matters most and that's why I couldn't care less about the lifetime record between our teams. Natties are all that matters.

Everything else is window dressing.
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I really did want to win the last cup that's for sure, I would think most Gopher fans would. But like you said big picture, getting in the NCAA's and doing some damage there is the next prize.

Although Jan could still pee down her leg and make it interesting. :)
 
Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

Tiggsy said:
Not necessarily but I'm quite sure most can properly define cross-check. While that likely isn't true in WI, I bet most know all the steps to every between period dance. I guess that's something to be proud of.
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As far as knowing steps to every between period dance is concerned, almost everybody learns that during football season. If not, their more experienced friends and surrounding fans teach them by example. And I know you didn't say it, but let's all remember that knowing and enjoying our silly dances does not have anything to do with hockey knowledge. It's super fun. I love our band.

All student sections have a bunch of kids who don't understand the game at a good-ole-minnesota-boy level, even at Minnesota. Students get cheaper tickets (or free admission) everywhere, and plenty of them will be hockey fans, and plenty of them go for the event. This is especially true with on-campus arenas. But guess what? Those non-fans turn into at least casual fans who learn a thing or two. (Emphasis on at least.) I've seen it at Wisconsin with my own eyes. I can assure you that hockey strategy is discussed during the game in the UW student section. Granted, I'm always near the front with the most die-hard fans, but it's not like as you go further back you just get a ton of people oblivious to what's going on. If there was a way to quantify hockey knowledge, and you found the per-person average in the Wisconsin and Minnesota student sections, Minnesota would easily win. I know that, but don't knock our students down all the way. (This may blow your mind, but there really are good hockey fans in the second deck, too!)

When too many people yell "SHOOT!" on the power play when they clearly shouldn't shoot, I usually yell something along the lines of, "whenever you yell that, the Gophers fans make fun of us and get more arrogant!"
 
Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

Gurtholfin said:
That's the most likely scenario to be honest.
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There are three positions for any team to be in right now:

1. Out of contention
2. Need to rally
3. Could pee down leg

Previously, the Huskies have primarily been in position 1 at this point in the season and occasionally have been in position 2. They've never been in position 3, so your evaluation of likely scenarios is not based on any relevant precedent. If given the choice, I'm sure most teams would prefer position 3.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/wchahockey/wchastandings.html
 
Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

The Exiled One said:
There are three positions for any team to be in right now:

1. Out of contention
2. Need to rally
3. Could pee down leg

Previously, the Huskies have primarily been in position 1 at this point in the season and occasionally have been in position 2. They've never been in position 3, so your evaluation of likely scenarios is not based on any relevant precedent. If given the choice, I'm sure most teams would prefer position 3.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/wchahockey/wchastandings.html
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I'm just so used to being in position 1.

It was a Jan-joke.


I'm actually pulling for you guys. Get 'er done!

Or at least wrap it up before you get to Madison.
 
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Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

Gurtholfin said:
B.S. You guys wanted that Cup till it was out of reach.

I agree though that the bigger picture is what matters most and that's why I couldn't care less about the lifetime record between our teams. Natties are all that matters.

Everything else is window dressing.
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good, let's talk college football, then. you guys suck at it. bad. real bad.
 
Re: Minnesota @ Wisconsin : 02/15 - 02/17

mnstate0fhockey said:
... Especially when your fans are outnumbered at a game that is supposed to be your home game by opponent fans by at least 3-to-1. ...
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I have seen you post that "at least 3-1" in attendance a few times. That is not what I saw at the game. I would have guessed 50/50. If that was the case your fans were sure quiet:)

By the way, nice of you to keep your band at home so to not get outclassed again by our wonderful band (BTW, 3 of 4 teams had their band at the game).
 
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