Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

[The Rube]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

Think Eaves did the same? Maybe he showed video and explained why they shouldn't have been penalties, in his opinion.

If one doesn't think the Wittchow hit wasn't a penalty of some sort, they need to have their head examined.

 

[Koho]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

If one doesn't think the Wittchow hit wasn't a penalty of some sort, they need to have their head examined.

Well he was arguing the call in the game and trying to appeal the penalty.....

 

[The Rube]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

Well he was arguing the call in the game and trying to appeal the penalty.....

Coach's role. But if he's showing film to his players and saying this is a clean hit, behind closed doors.........

 

[Stauber1]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

Coach's role. But if he's showing film to his players and saying this is a clean hit, behind closed doors.........

That goes beyond coach's role. It sends a clear message that players don't need to avoid these types of hits.

I'm trying hard not to pile on, because as I've said previously these kind of hits can happen on any team. But as a coach, your actions and what you say sends messages to your players.

 

[The Rube]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

That goes beyond coach's role. It sends a clear message that players don't need to avoid these types of hits.

I'm trying hard not to pile on, because as I've said previously these kind of hits can happen on any team. But as a coach, your actions and what you say sends messages to your players.

Publicly, you stand behind your players. You may sugarcoat it, etc, for the media, but you back your player. In the locker room, you say what's what. That is my take.

 

[Stauber1]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

Publicly, you stand behind your players. You may sugarcoat it, etc, for the media, but you back your player. In the locker room, you say what's what. That is my take.

Respectfully disagree. Especially when dealing with college kids. I'm not saying Eaves should have come out and called the hit dirty, or Wittchow dirty, but I think he did have a responsibility to publicly say those types of hits aren't OK and Wittchow made a mistake.

He doesn't have to throw the kid under the bus, but he shouldn't be arguing the penalty or appealing the suspension, either. That sends a message.
You can have your kids' backs while still acknowledging when they screw up. In fact, I think acknowledging when they screw up is essential in that.

 

[The Rube]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

Respectfully disagree. Especially when dealing with college kids. I'm not saying Eaves should have come out and called the hit dirty, or Wittchow dirty, but I think he did have a responsibility to publicly say those types of hits aren't OK and Wittchow made a mistake.

He doesn't have to throw the kid under the bus, but he shouldn't be arguing the penalty or appealing the suspension, either. That sends a message.
You can have your kids' backs while still acknowledging when they screw up. In fact, I think acknowledging when they screw up is essential in that.

I respect that take on things.

 

[Koho]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

Respectfully disagree. Especially when dealing with college kids. I'm not saying Eaves should have come out and called the hit dirty, or Wittchow dirty, but I think he did have a responsibility to publicly say those types of hits aren't OK and Wittchow made a mistake.

He doesn't have to throw the kid under the bus, but he shouldn't be arguing the penalty or appealing the suspension, either. That sends a message.
You can have your kids' backs while still acknowledging when they screw up. In fact, I think acknowledging when they screw up is essential in that.

I agree with your take. tDon doesn't argue every penalty against a Gopher. Seeler hit is clear example. There are lots of times a player has taken a stupid penalty, either because dangerous or a really unnecessary one at the wrong time, and it is clear he is upset with his player. A coaches job is to teach these kids what is acceptable and what isn't, not to say they are supported regardless of how stupid the act. That doesn't require throwing a kid under the bus, but it is essential for the maturation of the kids and the development of the team. Arguing with the refs over a clearly dangerous and stupid (costs team 5 min PP) play doesn't accomplish any of this. Instead it will perpetuate that type of play and cost the team and the player in the long run.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

Publicly, you stand behind your players. You may sugarcoat it, etc, for the media, but you back your player. In the locker room, you say what's what. That is my take.

I agree that you don't rip into your player publicly, but you don't have to whine and pout when your player was penalized while clearly in the wrong. You just say and do nothing, then address with the player and team in the room.

I just can't get behind a coach who argues against penalizing clearly dangerous hits. Explains why we see these hits over and over under Eaves.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

I see both arguments but don't take much umbrage with him publicly showing support. At the end of the day the only real message is the one being sent behind closed doors and we have no idea what he's saying there.

 

[D2D]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

At the end of the day the only real message is the one being sent behind closed doors and we have no idea what he's saying there.

But at the "end of the week" the only way to gauge what his real message is - the one that gets through - are his players' actions on the ice.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

But at the "end of the week" the only way to gauge what his real message is - the one that gets through - are his players' actions on the ice.

Which have been continued poir choices and dirty play, which leads me to believe no message is being delivered in public or private. At least not the proper messages.

 

[SteveO]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

But at the "end of the week" the only way to gauge what his real message is - the one that gets through - are his players' actions on the ice.

I think it's obvious that based upon the fact that for two seasons in a row Gopher players have been targeted by Badger players with "intent to injure" indicates Eaves does not reprimand players enough or at all. This problem lies with the coaching staff. Student athletes who have the privilege to play D at the D1 level have logged hours and hours of on ice training and instruction as to how to land a legal hit. There is absolutely no excuse for players who intentionally attempt to injure other players at any level.

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

But at the "end of the week" the only way to gauge what his real message is - the one that gets through - are his players' actions on the ice.

Which reiterates what I said - his words in public are ultimately meaningless.

 

[Gurtholfin]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

I see both arguments but don't take much umbrage with him publicly showing support. At the end of the day the only real message is the one being sent behind closed doors and we have no idea what he's saying there.

Trust me, his players probably can't make heads or tails of what he's saying behind closed doors as it's probably about horses, mountains, hay, rickshaws, barns, B12 pills, biscuits, baskets, lightning, bottles and who the **** knows what else.

 

[SanTropez]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

Trust me, his players probably can't make heads or tails of what he's saying behind closed doors as it's probably about horses, mountains, hay, rickshaws, barns, B12 pills, biscuits, baskets, lightning, bottles and who the **** knows what else.

Are the puppies now out of their box? bad puppies...bad puppies

 

[D2D]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

Which reiterates what I said - his words in public are ultimately meaningless.

I don't think you understood my point, which is his words - whether said in public OR behind closed doors - are ultimately meaningless. The only thing that matters is his players' actions on the ice. End of story...

 

[Slap Shot]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

Which was my original point as well to an extent. If anything he's saying has any impact on their actions it's most likely what he's saying in private. It goes without saying that the results are all that matters.

 

[MCWarrior1011]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

does anyone here know anything about the Halladay kid that was committed and committed to Merrimack today? Anyone know why he's not going to the U anymore?

 

[SJHovey]

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread 2015-16

does anyone here know anything about the halladay kid that was committed and committed to merrimack today? Anyone know why he's not going to the u anymore?

gaa