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Minnesota Gophers 2024-25

ManBehindTheCurtain said:
Is that an under you would be willing to take?
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You definitely did a good job of setting the line. Last year, SCSU wasn't the same team after the break that they were before, almost like a rider in the Tour de France who expends all his energy in the Pyrenees and has nothing left for the Alps. If the Huskies pace themselves better this time ... Four games of 2-1 produces the over, and I think 2-1 would be the mode score that I would favor for the two teams. But it seems more likely than not that there would be a 2-0 or 1-1 game tossed in there. Of course, we could also wind up with 3-1 and an ENG, but at least when UM is the team that's up, they look like they'd have a hard time hitting an empty net, just like they struggle to hit one with a goalie in it.
 
ARM said:
Last year, SCSU wasn't the same team after the break that they were before, almost like a rider in the Tour de France who expends all his energy in the Pyrenees and has nothing left for the Alps.
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I absolutely cannot resist a Tour de France reference. I guess a fan of one niche sport might be a fan of another.

Of importance in this context is that SCSU, much like that TdF rider might be facing a very different schedule this year. Le Tour typically reverses the order of the mountain stages, the year after they do the Pyrenees first they do the Alps first.

So perhaps last year they exhausted themselves on the Tourmalet to have nothing left for Alpe d'Huez but this year they have to do perhaps Galibier with a lead in from Telegraphe before heading south and west with perhaps a stop off at Ventoux before some monster finish at something like Col d'Aspin in the high Pyrenees.

I am a huge fan of women's hockey but I have also been to le Tour de France.

Allez Thomas Voeckler.
 
I'm looking forward (kinda) to seeing C Primo play. Ian Kennedy had her at a level above KK with all the rah rah articles he was writing about her. I'm shocked she hasn't declared for the draft yet. Haha. I see she has 3 points including a PPG. I suspect more than anything you're looking at solid d play at this point and the scoring will come with time. Where does she slot into with the D pairs? 1 2 or 3?
 
The D pairs haven't been static thus far, but she has either been in the first or second pair. In the OT versus tOSU, she was one of the two D that Frost used.

In terms of a comparison, Harvey came to UW after a season with Team USA. Primerano, meanwhile, is 17. She'll be a good player; she's not going to single-handedly cause you to lie awake at night.
 
Timothy A said:
I'm looking forward (kinda) to seeing C Primo play. Ian Kennedy had her at a level above KK with all the rah rah articles he was writing about her. I'm shocked she hasn't declared for the draft yet. Haha. I see she has 3 points including a PPG. I suspect more than anything you're looking at solid d play at this point and the scoring will come with time. Where does she slot into with the D pairs? 1 2 or 3?
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Primerano is not above Harvey...Kennedy is wrong about that. As ARM mentions, she is 17 so there is room for improvement.
 
Maybe the tunnelers should petition to move from the WCHA and join their fellow Big Ten partner Penn State in the CHA. There they might have a chance to be competitive
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Maybe the tunnelers should petition to move from the WCHA and join their fellow Big Ten partner Penn State in the CHA. There they might have a chance to be competitive
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I see the Gophers as a consistent top 3 team in the CHA. Until they prove that they have descended to the point where they are not a top 3 team in the WCHA I do not support a move.

However, the season is not over. Saint Cloud looms. UMD looms.

Are the Gophers a top 3 WCHA team?
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
I find it interesting the Gopher's golden era seemed to end and coincide with the departure of the Muzzinator from their staff.
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This isn't a revolutionary thought. Frost had a revolving door of assistants through his early years, and JJ returned to the staff the season before. The season was already underway by the time she could get through Obama's "open" border, but as soon as she arrived (has she ever told you the "stepped on the 'M'" story?), she brought a fire to GWH coaching that neither Frost nor Johnson did. As a former player, she could relate to the players in a way they couldn't. Obviously, she carries a much heavier load in Columbus, but I don't think the Gophers have had anyone who brought a similar passion to the coaching staff, before or since. Darwitz has her own fire, but she isn't a people person in the way that Muzzy is.
 
Nobody really fears the Gophers. Even if they're less talented or straight up less good, they're not afraid to target Murphy (or Heise before that). Every team above a certain level feels they can get past the defense, even though it is a better blue line this year. If you're a top 20 team, you go in thinking that you're at least capable of beating Minnesota. That didn't use to be the case, even when JJ was there.
 
Just in case the sarcasm isn't evident...

Another couple of moral victories for the tunnelers who held the sinners to under double digit total goals for the 2 game series and held the sinners to their lowest goal total so far this year at 4 in today's game. Oh and they actually had the lead in this game as well...Sheesh, I guess that seems like progress?
 
eastcoastgopher said:
Nobody really fears the Gophers. Even if they're less talented or straight up less good, they're not afraid to target Murphy (or Heise before that). Every team above a certain level feels they can get past the defense, even though it is a better blue line this year. If you're a top 20 team, you go in thinking that you're at least capable of beating Minnesota. That didn't use to be the case, even when JJ was there.
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You're correct in stating that nobody fears Murphy, in fact most teams relish the opportunity. Her constant flopping and complaining really detracts from her resume as a player.
 
Shelift…. What happened?

Brad Frost is now 2-12-1 in his last 15 against Ohio State and Wisconsin and his teams have been outscored 62-33.

But wait, He's 0-9-1 in the last 10, and his teams have been outscored 44-15.
 
bobthomasiselite said:
Shelift…. What happened?

Brad Frost is now 2-12-1 in his last 15 against Ohio State and Wisconsin and his teams have been outscored 62-33.

But wait, He's 0-9-1 in the last 10, and his teams have been outscored 44-15.
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There is so much apathy towards this program now that this statement is barely a blip on the radar screen. This is what happens when you make many recruiting mistakes which has dug a hole for this program which is going to take awhile to get out of...
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
There is so much apathy towards this program now that this statement is barely a blip on the radar screen. This is what happens when you make many recruiting mistakes which has dug a hole for this program which is going to take awhile to get out of...
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would you care to elaborate about which players you think are mistakes?

Frost has said publicly that he got NIL money last spring to go and get good players out of the portal. We're not lacking for talent.

We had Taylor Heise, Grace Zumwinkle, and Abbey Murphy on a roster and he couldn't get past Wisconsin in the Frozen Four semis.
 
StPaulSam said:
We had Taylor Heise, Grace Zumwinkle, and Abbey Murphy on a roster and he couldn't get past Wisconsin in the Frozen Four semis.
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I can agree with the spirit of your point, but this particular season was basically 2016 in reverse. The Gophers had talent in 2023, but Wisconsin also had talent with Olympic experience. UM won the tourney two weeks earlier, so it wasn't like Frost couldn't get anything out of that roster. I'd say that UW's rookies made the difference in 2023. Maybe that's part of the problem -- it has been awhile since the Gophers got a lot of production from their 1st-year class, even when bringing in some classes that look to have a lot of talent on paper.
 
StPaulSam said:
would you care to elaborate about which players you think are mistakes?
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Or who you didn't get/retain like losing Jungels to WI when she flipped. It also appears Halverson is as good as ARM said she was, though I had my doubts. Kotlowski went to Warroad and she's been a fine 3rd sometimes 2nd d pair player. Enright is another MN product playing well but not scoring a ton coming off a lost season due to injury.
 
Hockeybuckeye said:
I find it interesting the Gopher's golden era seemed to end and coincide with the departure of the Muzzinator from their staff.
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and if you all keep trying to string her along with a promise of a new arena every few years, she might be departing from OSU's staff too.
 
StPaulSam said:
would you care to elaborate about which players you think are mistakes?
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I'll turn it around on you...Do you think there aren't recruiting mistakes? Because the way YOU ask this it sure gives me vibes that you don't.

Even TimothyA knows that the tunnelers brain trust fubar'd the Jungel's situation which turns into a flip of a player you had gotten a commitment from who then goes to one of your biggest rivals.
 
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