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Minnesota Gophers 2022-23

Still Eeyore said:
Those of us posting on this board have no idea what her conditioning level is. You are making unsupported inferences based upon body type.
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Regardless, here is something different. What i like about #13's game.

She does a good job with decision making as far as getting the puck out of her own zone and moving the puck to her teammates.. She shoots the puck very well (even though she doesn't do that maybe as much as she could or should). She does have better than average hands, as you mentioned, and she rarely gets caught out of position.

Now lets see if I can muster up some positivity for #5.

That may take a little longer...
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
She certainly can be an effective player...When she passes the puck.
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I concede that she can be guilty of holding the puck too long, but #9 and #12 can be guilty of that as well. It is one of the problems that players develop when they are the best player on their team growing up and coaches encourage them to "make things happen." Unfortunately at the college level, one of those "things" is often getting trapped and turning the puck over.
 
ARM said:
I concede that she can be guilty of holding the puck too long, but #9 and #12 can be guilty of that as well. It is one of the problems that players develop when they are the best player on their team growing up and coaches encourage them to "make things happen." Unfortunately at the college level, one of those "things" is often getting trapped and turning the puck over.
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No doubt that #9 and #12 hold on to the puck a little to long sometimes. In the case of #9, many times that results in good scoring opportunities not only for herself but for her teammates. #12 hanging on to the puck resulting in a shot on net can be very effective as we've seen many times. How good would #12 be if she had some of #9's ability to pass the puck?
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
How good would #12 be if she had some of #9's ability to pass the puck?
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Darwitz, Brandt, Pannek, Heise -- we've gotten to watch some incredible passers over the years. The current #11 may rank up there by the time her Gophers career is complete.
 
ARM said:
Darwitz, Brandt, Pannek, Heise -- we've gotten to watch some incredible passers over the years. The current #11 may rank up there by the time her Gophers career is complete.
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Totally agree. Maybe IF the Gophers can build a sizable lead this weekend vs. St. Cloud, just maybe Frost might try moving #11 up to be paired with #12. #11's hockey sense is off the charts, especially for a freshman, so why not see if there's any chemistry?
 
Courtney Kennedy and Winny Brodt's Gopher careers overlapped, and I don't know that you could have much greater differences in terms of body type and playing style. There's more than one way to get the job done.
 
ManBehindTheCurtain said:
Based on what? This is one of most disappointing takes on any Gopher hockey player I have read EVER.
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In the context of what the other poster said about his opinion of where #13 ranked as far as Gopher defensemen, I said what I said. You can choose to acknowlege that it's an observation of her (that's what it's based on) or not. Your opnion that's it's disappointing? Well at least you didn't say you wanted to meet me at the rink...

I posted what I liked about her game and she makes valued contributions to the Gopher lineup. Like ARM posts "There's more than one way to get the job done.
 
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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Minnesota started to think their better than maybe they actually are and gave up two late goals to SCSU...

Even though Minnesota still leads 4-2 they have not played very well in this game. They made some nice individual plays in the first period but the second period wasn't very good.
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They played quite well in the first period. The second wasn't good, but it wasn't catastrophic, either. It was a bad period all around. Both teams looked lethargic for most of it, like they'd come to a mutual consensus that the game was over at 4-0 and they'd just kill the clock and do it again tomorrow on a smaller rink. St. Cloud shook it off before Minnesota did and scored twice on goal mouth scrambles.

A couple things to keep in mind:

1) The Gophers hit four posts. The first period could easily have ended 6-0.

2) As they have done every time a game is at all close after two periods, they took control of the third. The Huskies had six shots in the period, and maybe two of them were decent scoring chances. St Cloud's 6-on-4 power play at the end went nowhere. For all the fears about this team's defense, it has looked very good in crunch time so far.
 
Still Eeyore said:
1) The Gophers hit four posts. The first period could easily have ended 6-0.

2) As they have done every time a game is at all close after two periods, they took control of the third. The Huskies had six shots in the period, and m,aybe two of them were decent scoring chances. St Cloud's 6-on-4 power play at the end went nowhere. For all the fears about this team's defense, it has looked very good in crunch time so far.
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Those four posts were mentioned by the Gopher broadcast crew in today's game as I just got done watching the replay. They did a nice job of not allowing the opposition much in the 3rd period yesterday and did similar to that today while getting the go-ahead goal (and it looked like they should have had a 3rd goal but I guess the net was off the moorings?).
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
In the context of what the other poster said about his opinion of where #13 ranked as far as Gopher defensemen, I said what I said. You can choose to acknowlege that it's an observation of her (that's what it's based on) or not.
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I choose not to acknowledge that it is an observation of her until I know what it is that you are observing that leads you to this conclusion.

And, no, I have no interest in any sort of meeting at the rink. I am a Gopher fan, you are a Gopher fan, it seems to me that we are on the same side.
 
ManBehindTheCurtain said:
3rd period 4th line Conner instead of AWethington.
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That seemed to start in the 2nd period. Can't say for sure at what point #4 got her last shift or if she was out at all in the 2nd. There were so many penalties over the last couple of periods that the 4th (and even the 3rd) didn't get many shifts.

Where UM might have an advantage over some other rosters at this point in the season is having so many players who are some variety of senior or above. I think SCSU was worn down late, or at least its top players were. Meanwhile, the Gophers veterans were ramping up their intensity down the stretch. Where earlier in the game they tried to make pretty plays, the accomplishments down the stretch were due to effort and force of will, much like how the 4th line scored early. At least today, grit proved more effective than glamour.

I won't claim that today was of the level of UMD & tOSU, but today was the kind of hockey game that forces a team to grow in a way that 11-0 doesn't.
 
The power play definitely needs some work. It's at 23.1% for the season, which isn't awful, but it doesn't pass the eye test. They spend far too much time trying to figure out how to get the puck into the offensive zone, and then take shots that miss the net, bang off the glass, and exit the zone before they can corral it.

On the other hand, the penalty kill is +1 after six games. I don't care who you've played, having more shorties than PPGs allowed after six games is good work.

The D seems to take turns struggling for a game. Today, it was Norton and Wethington. Both got caught out of position a number of times.

The fourth line is a joy to watch.

One thing that I don't like is that this team is not disciplined about getting off on line changes. Boreen and Murphy are the worst offenders, but not the only ones. There were a couple of times in both games this weekend when players didn't change when they had opportunities, and then got trapped in the defensive zone on very long shifts.
 
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ARM said:
I think SCSU was worn down late, or at least its top players were.
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A penalty filled game like today's probably doesn't work to the advantage of a shallower team. Idalski's teams aren't capable of playing in any way that doesn't leave them vulnerable to refs that call penalties. They could easily have had even less depth, as Emma Gentry was fortunate not to have to watch the last two and a half periods from the dressing room.
 
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What did I miss from today's game by only listening to Dan's play-by-play; thoughts?
 
Still Eeyore said:
No idea if you missed it, but Vetter was outstanding. The game was pretty evenly played, shot totals notwithstanding. The goaltending was the difference.
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Interestingly enough, the Ohio State announcing team on BTN+ spent a lot of time talking about what they perceived as Vetter's shakiness, particularly harping on failure to control rebounds. Maybe they were right or maybe they were seeing her performance through scarlet sunglasses.

The Gopher's first two goals were both recorded on shots that deflected in off the pads of OSU defenders.

Good game between pretty evenly matched teams. I thought OSU had periods when they were dominant, a nod or two from the hockey gods and they could have won.

Tomorrow is another day but only one of the two teams goes into tomorrow with an opportunity to sweep.
 
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