Minnesota Gophers 2019/2020 Season Thread

[Offsides Guy]

For a 2 minute roughing penalty?

Should have also been a game misconduct. Charging and hitting a defenseless player after the whistle should be considered just as bad as what Beebe did.

 

[D2D]

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Should have also been a game misconduct. Charging and hitting a defenseless player after the whistle should be considered just as bad as what Beebe did.

Strongly disagree. Robinson was sticking up for her injured teammate after Beebe's brutal hit, in the last minute of play no less. The referee got it right when he assessed Beebe 5 for boarding + 10 for a game misconduct vs. a 2 minute minor for roughing on Robinson.

 

[Offsides Guy]

Strongly disagree. Robinson was sticking up for her injured teammate after Beebe's brutal hit, in the last minute of play no less. The referee got it right when he assessed Beebe 5 for boarding + 10 for a game misconduct vs. a 2 minute minor for roughing on Robinson.

I’ve watch the play several times on TV and (1) Robinson hits Beebe just as hard into the boards as Beebe hit Shearan, it’s just that Beebe got lifted over the boards instead of driven into them and (2) sticking up for your teammate is meaningless in terms of the rules. It might be admirable but it should have no bearing on the consequences. Both are dangerous plays and should be punished as such.

 

[D2D]

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I think we've each made our case, and we'll just have to "agree to disagree".

 

[Offsides Guy]

I think we've each made our case, and we'll just have to "agree to disagree".

Agreed!

 

[OldDave]

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I’ve watch the play several times on TV and (1) Robinson hits Beebe just as hard into the boards as Beebe hit Shearan.

No, she did not. The sound of Beebe's hit on Shearen turned a noisy arena deathly silent. I was sitting 15 feet away, and Robinson's punches thrown at Beebe didn't make any noise.

 

[Fiveholio]

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Agreed!

Looked to me like she was pitchforked and driven to the boards at a very dangerous spot 3 feet from the boards. I get that your mad because your team is on the wrong side of the score but seriously? watching in slow mo you can tell that she was focused on getting to the red line to dump the puck and was already going off balance because she was just about to let the puck go. Giving someone an extra shove at the end of a game in front of your own net while the other team is trying to run up the score is one thing but that just looked stupid. What also looked pretty stupid to me was when #8 decided that kicking a gopher in the back while laying on the ice in a pile in front of the net was a good idea. Not many saw it but I did because I was sitting close with young kids. When young ones gasp and point it's either a great pass or goal or in this case stupid.

 

[Offsides Guy]

Looked to me like she was pitchforked and driven to the boards at a very dangerous spot 3 feet from the boards. I get that your mad because your team is on the wrong side of the score but seriously? watching in slow mo you can tell that she was focused on getting to the red line to dump the puck and was already going off balance because she was just about to let the puck go. Giving someone an extra shove at the end of a game in front of your own net while the other team is trying to run up the score is one thing but that just looked stupid. What also looked pretty stupid to me was when #8 decided that kicking a gopher in the back while laying on the ice in a pile in front of the net was a good idea. Not many saw it but I did because I was sitting close with young kids. When young ones gasp and point it's either a great pass or goal or in this case stupid.

And what did the children think of Robinson’s run after the play was over? Not excusing the original hit, just saying both were inexcusable.

 

[Fiveholio]

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And what did the children think of Robinson’s run after the play was over? Not excusing the original hit, just saying both were inexcusable.

Kicking someone in the back when you don't know it's coming. Not even close to the same. Seems you are making excuses for Beaver behavior.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Video link?

 

[pokechecker]

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I’ve watch the play several times on TV and (1) Robinson hits Beebe just as hard into the boards as Beebe hit Shearan, it’s just that Beebe got lifted over the boards instead of driven into them

you answered your own question, they are not the same
being pushed into an immovable object is different than being pushed over it
and apparently the person whose opinion matters, saw it that way

 

[Fiveholio]

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Video link?

You can check the 5:27 mark of the 3rd. You could also check the 6:58 mark of the first if you like crosschecks to the face. Just saw that one scrolling through the video at +10sec clips. shocked to see it was #18 that did that as well.

 

[robertearle]

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Does the WCHA or NCAA have any sort of 'third man in' rule that would apply to Robinson?

Though the play is somewhat obscured on the BTN camera by the near side board, I see a fairly egregious slash/trip from Beebe that is dangerous enough to warrant the 5 minute. But I can't infer the level of intent that one can clearly infer from Robinson coming in to make the hit on Beebe.

Suspension for both, or neither. IMO and FWIW

 

[Fiveholio]

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And what did the children think of Robinson’s run after the play was over? Not excusing the original hit, just saying both were inexcusable.

I hope you don't think that Bebe was not expecting that at all. I really think your just trying to see both sides of it so I get it but after that one moment in time everything else is just reactionary which is not excusable but explainable just like I think #8's punch at Robinson from the bench is explainable. I do know one thing for sure and everyone can agree on this, an injury to any player is very unfortunate and in the women's game head injuries should try to be avoided at all costs.

 

[robertearle]

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shocked to see it was #18 that did that as well.

Interestingly, both Beebe and Robinson wear #18, so that isn't all that helpful.

 

[Fiveholio]

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Interestingly, both Beebe and Robinson wear #18, so that isn't all that helpful.

It certainly would be helpful if you logged in and watched it. One wears green and white and the other 18 is wearing a different color I think?

 

[Offsides Guy]

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Kicking someone in the back when you don't know it's coming. Not even close to the same. Seems you are making excuses for Beaver behavior.

I get it. Your precious Gophers can do no wrong. Interesting that I was at Friday's game sitting next to a Gopher fan who pointed out two occasions where a Gopher slashed a Beaver in the back of the leg when the ref wasn't looking. Both incidents were as cheap as cheap can get.

And what does the rule book say about throwing punches? Is there an automatic severe penalty for that (I honestly have no idea)? If so, Robinson should have received that penalty for the punches she threw AFTER the cheap retaliation hit on Beebe. And, yes, BSU #8 would then get the same penalty for the punch at Robinson.

Again, my point is call it by the book on all players involved and not on how loud a hit is. And I 100% agree that head injuries need to be avoided at all costs.

 

[Fiveholio]

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I get it. Your precious Gophers can do no wrong. Interesting that I was at Friday's game sitting next to a Gopher fan who pointed out two occasions where a Gopher slashed a Beaver in the back of the leg when the ref wasn't looking. Both incidents were as cheap as cheap can get.

And what does the rule book say about throwing punches? Is there an automatic severe penalty for that (I honestly have no idea)? If so, Robinson should have received that penalty for the punches she threw AFTER the cheap retaliation hit on Beebe. And, yes, BSU #8 would then get the same penalty for the punch at Robinson.

Again, my point is call it by the book on all players involved and not on how loud a hit is. And I 100% agree that head injuries need to be avoided at all costs.

Actually more of a Mavs fan that didn't feel like driving to Madtown and took in a local game instead as we are friends with Beavers, Gophers as well. Really would just like to see the last couple minutes of play cleaned up so things don't get out of hand. No unnecessary hits, no punches, no kicks. One thing that came to mind if your mad your team is getting beat badly it doesn't make sense to take it out on the 4th line in garbage time. Most likely they weren't the ones that made you mad.

 

[Offsides Guy]

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Actually more of a Mavs fan that didn't feel like driving to Madtown and took in a local game instead as we are friends with Beavers, Gophers as well. Really would just like to see the last couple minutes of play cleaned up so things don't get out of hand. No unnecessary hits, no punches, no kicks. One thing that came to mind if your mad your team is getting beat badly it doesn't make sense to take it out on the 4th line in garbage time. Most likely they weren't the ones that made you mad.

Or. better yet, if your mad at the other team how about you score a **** goal?!

 

[Fiveholio]

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Or. better yet, if your mad at the other team how about you score a **** goal?!

Well played my friend, well played