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Minnesota Gophers 2018-2019

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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
A little off subject but...

North Dakota's interest in this player probably has increased since he has the "hard nosed" hockey and the "intimidating" your opponent aspect down. He probably is pretty good at lawnmower throwing as well.

https://twitter.com/GinoRedaTSN/status/1073001015392260097/video/1
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He has a career in the NHL for sure.
Reminds me of a college pitcher that beaned & hospitalized a guy standing in the on deck circle. I figured nobody would touch him but I believe he even made the show
 
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pokechecker said:
I’m really disappointed in Still Eeyore's analysis of the statistical difference. A statistical difference between two dependent variables loses validity when they are not measured to the same independent variable. Even though Gopher goalies played on successive nights against the same team, anybody who watched the games know both teams played at different levels the two nights. IOW, it isn’t comparing apples to apples and consequently the small statistical difference is meaningless.
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The amount of bull**** gobbledygook in that paragraph is staggering. Also, given that you can't grasp what the phrase "based upon the assumption" means, I would guess that you didn't do well in junior high school English, either.
 
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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
A little off subject but...

North Dakota's interest in this player probably has increased since he has the "hard nosed" hockey and the "intimidating" your opponent aspect down. He probably is pretty good at lawnmower throwing as well.

https://twitter.com/GinoRedaTSN/status/1073001015392260097/video/1
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the good news is that he used a hockey stick and not an AR-15

Still Eeyore said:
The amount of bull**** gobbledygook in that paragraph is staggering. Also, given that you can't grasp what the phrase "based upon the assumption" means, I would guess that you didn't do well in junior high school English, either.
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glad I could give your life meaning, such as it is

yeah, I didn't do well in English, it did bring down my ACT score a bit, but that didn't keep me from doing well in school or my career, how’d it go for you?

Basically there are two conditions, the first game of the weekend, and the second. And as I mentioned before they are not equal. If you apply the goalies (who are the independent variables) randomly each weekend to the two conditions you will have a valid set of comparison, and you have a valid experiment with the resulting dependent variable, the number of goals allowed.

So it all hinges on whether there has been random assignment of the goalies, some may question that, but if for example he is assigning them with a methodology, then the methodology may be the reason for the difference in the dependent variable rather than a difference in the goalies.

Did I do better this time?

Does it change the answer to D2D’s question?
 
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pokechecker said:
Did I do better this time?
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Since the question you are trying to answer doesn't involve regression analysis, you aren't even on the right planet. There aren't any independent or dependent variables here. What you want is hypothesis testing, trying to determine whether or not Gulstene's and Scobee's game performances are drawn from the same distribution. It's possible to do this and include an attempt to control for the performances of the team in front of them each night. However . . .

Does it change the answer to D2D’s question?
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Not really, because there isn't a statistical answer to that question. When I told you you'd have to decide for yourself whether one goal every six games, and even that dependent upon the assumptions you make, I was trying to imply that the statistics aren't going to help us. The problem isn't that there are independent variables that don't align; it's that the sample sizes we're talking about between the two goalies are much too small to draw any firm conclusions about a difference of .08 in their save percentages. That's not to say that there is no answer to D2D's question, just that you'll have to turn somewhere other than statistical analysis to get at it. Just watching them, I think Scobee has looked like the better goalie right now. That's not a scientific answer, but it's the best that we can do. As it happens, I don't think the difference in the eye test is enough to make continuing the rotation a bad choice.
 
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Still Eeyore said:
Since the question you are trying to answer doesn't involve regression analysis, you aren't even on the right planet. There aren't any independent or dependent variables here. What you want is hypothesis testing, trying to determine whether or not Gulstene's and Scobee's game performances are drawn from the same distribution. It's possible to do this and include an attempt to control for the performances of the team in front of them each night. However . . .



Not really, because there isn't a statistical answer to that question. When I told you you'd have to decide for yourself whether one goal every six games, and even that dependent upon the assumptions you make, I was trying to imply that the statistics aren't going to help us. The problem isn't that there are independent variables that don't align; it's that the sample sizes we're talking about between the two goalies are much too small to draw any firm conclusions about a difference of .08 in their save percentages. That's not to say that there is no answer to D2D's question, just that you'll have to turn somewhere other than statistical analysis to get at it. Just watching them, I think Scobee has looked like the better goalie right now. That's not a scientific answer, but it's the best that we can do. As it happens, I don't think the difference in the eye test is enough to make continuing the rotation a bad choice.
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joecct said:
Insert Airplane! joke here.
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you quoted the wrong post, I fixed it for you
 
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ChickHicks86 said:
Based on how short the list of current D-I players from SE Minnesota is, Gophers fans probably would prefer Pahl had not played girls this year, but you’ve got to give her credit for not getting ahead of herself and instead choosing to enjoy her senior year with her high school classmates.
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Absolutely, you have to give her tons of credit for choosing the girls high school route for that very reason.

ChickHicks86 said:
All things considered, as the list below shows, a player’s college success is more a function of the individual than their high school career.

Rebekah Kolstad / Mankato / MSU, Mankato
Taylor Heise / Red Wing / Minnesota
Katie Robinson / Kasson / Minnesota
Nicole Schammel / Red Wing / Minnesota
Catie Skaja / New Prague / Minnesota
Reagan Haley / Red Wing / UMD
Rebecca Freiburger / Rochester / Ohio State
Dana Rasmussen / Kasson / St. Cloud
Renee Saltness / Rochester / Quinnipiac
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While what you say is true, that "a player’s college success is more a function of the individual" there is a reason why your list is very short, considering the number of players who've gone through all the schools in the southeast part of the State, and that reason is the in-season competition from that area has traditionally been very weak.

Currently there are no teams in that geographic area ranked in the KRACH Overall Top 40 [https://www.mghca.com/page/show/427552-overall-rankings],
and in fact her Mayo team (with whom she practices every day) is 101st out of 117 total....and her team's Strength of Schedule is also coincidentally 101 out of 117:

https://www.mghca.com/page/show/427559-krach-strength-of-schedule-rankings

so she obviously can't be facing that many good shooters, certainly nowhere near the quality she'll see at the D1 level.

But as your list shows there have been some great "diamonds in the rough" individuals who've come from the southeast, and I'm sure all GWH fans hope that Makayla ends up fulfilling her potential by becoming the best goaltender she can possibly be.
 
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As with most all-anything teams, forwards are valued over D. :( Maybe they figure if they put MLam and Ouellette on the roster, they both played D at least part of the time.
 
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I was surprised to NOT see Krissy Wendell's name on the list. :confused:
 
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D2D said:
I was surprised to NOT see Krissy Wendell's name on the list. :confused:
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Well, it is a top 20 list, so there are another 12 to go. I'm guessing Krissy and Jessie Vetter (both Kaz winners) will be among those last 12.
 
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OldDave said:
Well, it is a top 20 list, so there are another 12 to go. I'm guessing Krissy and Jessie Vetter (both Kaz winners) will be among those last 12.
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So far it's just been a Gopher and Badger club, but I would be very surprised if Natalie Spooner doesn't make the list.

Bozek and Stecklein are the best Gopher defensemen I've seen in the past 16 years and it's also hard for me to imagine Noora Raty not making the list, but there have been several very good goalies over the years in the WCHA.
 
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bluffrinkrat said:
So far it's just been a Gopher and Badger club, but I would be very surprised if Natalie Spooner doesn't make the list.
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Don't forget the Bulldogs' 5 national championships. There has to be some players on the list from those teams... Potter, Ouellette, Vasichek, Rooth. I'm sure I'm missing some.
 
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OldDave said:
Don't forget the Bulldogs' 5 national championships. There has to be some players on the list from those teams... Potter, Ouellette, Vasichek, Rooth. I'm sure I'm missing some.
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5 1/4 more (Schmidgall-Potter) Gophers and 3 3/4 Bulldogs sounds good to me.
 
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they said they are releasing the names alphabetically, so if you aren't on the list, and your last name is before K, you didn't make the cut

the list likely isn't going to bring them fame and riches, so I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it
it would be interesting to see how many people actually voted, FWIW, I did not, so my guess is 16 ;)
 
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OldDave said:
Don't forget the Bulldogs' 5 national championships. There has to be some players on the list from those teams... Potter, Ouellette, Vasichek, Rooth. I'm sure I'm missing some.
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I doubt we'll see Vasichek. Kim Martin, Jocelyne Larocque, or Haley Irwin would both be more likely.

I expect to see Knight, JLam, MLam, Ouellette, Potter, Räty, Rooth, Spooner, Vetter, and Wendell.

Could be other Badgers such as Nurse, Pankowski, or Rigsby. Don't know about Marvin, Ramsey, or Stecklein.

Will they spread it around to other teams and include Vogt or Tomcikova?
 
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ARM said:
I doubt we'll see Vasichek.
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Maybe not, but she's on my top 20 list. Her parents came to all her games and ended up sitting with us many times at Ridder. They are great people. Also, Julianne went thru a liver transplant in 2015 when she was on the verge of dying, which scared us. Nonetheless, it's fun to remember all the great players we have watched over the years.
 
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OldDave said:
Maybe not, but she's on my top 20 list.
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My guess is that if there was going to be a defenseman from that era it would be Carla MacLeod. Could also say Tessa Bonhomme, but we've already passed "B".
 
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