Minnesota Golden Gophers 2017-18 Season Thread

[ne7minder]

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In his post-game interview Brad Frost almost seemed mad (not quite, but almost!).

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/...tm_content=headlines&utm_campaign=GopherDaily

YIKES! That is about as 'angry' as I have ever seen him. I thought they looked gassed in the third, he apparently does not agree!

 

[KTDC]

YIKES! That is about as 'angry' as I have ever seen him. I thought they looked gassed in the third, he apparently does not agree!

In the clip he mentions wanting them to play with emotion in the third but I get the feeling he was unhappy well before the third period.

 

[D2D]

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In the clip he mentions wanting them to play with emotion in the third but I get the feeling he was unhappy well before the third period.

As he should have been. His team had more shots in the 3rd (14) than in the first two combined (12).

I'm sure all Gopher fans here will join Coach Frost in expecting a more spirited performance this weekend as the team closes out the first half.

 

[Nowheresville]

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so why then allow play to continue if no subsequent goal counts? me thinks you are reading or repeating something wrong.
Maybe you should post where you are getting your rules from and let people decide for themselves.

This exact situation happened to the Minnesota Men in an NCAA game, I believe it was against BC in 08.

The Gophers fired a shot that hit the back of the net and sharply bounced back out, but the ref ruled no goal and play continued. Presumably the ref didn't stop play because he believed he got the call right. There wasn't another whistle/stoppage until about 4 minutes later, when BC got the puck past the Gopher goalie. Since that was the first stoppage, it was the first opportunity for the refs to review the Minnesota goal/no goal. After review, Minnesota's goal was awarded, BC's goal was wiped out, and the clock was rolled back to the time on the clock when Minnesota as if nothing after that point happened.

If after review, the refs original call of no goal had stood, then all subsequent play, including BC's goal would have counted.

 

[GoldyDad2B]

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This exact situation happened to the Minnesota Men in an NCAA game, I believe it was against BC in 08.

The Gophers fired a shot that hit the back of the net and sharply bounced back out, but the ref ruled no goal and play continued. Presumably the ref didn't stop play because he believed he got the call right. There wasn't another whistle/stoppage until about 4 minutes later, when BC got the puck past the Gopher goalie. Since that was the first stoppage, it was the first opportunity for the refs to review the Minnesota goal/no goal. After review, Minnesota's goal was awarded, BC's goal was wiped out, and the clock was rolled back to the time on the clock when Minnesota as if nothing after that point happened.

If after review, the refs original call of no goal had stood, then all subsequent play, including BC's goal would have counted.

Thanks for the other example, makes sense now.

 

[ARM]

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YIKES! That is about as 'angry' as I have ever seen him. I thought they looked gassed in the third, he apparently does not agree!

He wasn't that angry (and yes, I saw your quotes). I've seen when he's been very unhappy with them, and this wasn't it. I do remember a couple of trips to Bemidji, like when the Sanford Center was new, where he didn't think much of his team's effort.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

This exact situation happened to the Minnesota Men in an NCAA game, I believe it was against BC in 08.

The Gophers fired a shot that hit the back of the net and sharply bounced back out, but the ref ruled no goal and play continued. Presumably the ref didn't stop play because he believed he got the call right. There wasn't another whistle/stoppage until about 4 minutes later, when BC got the puck past the Gopher goalie. Since that was the first stoppage, it was the first opportunity for the refs to review the Minnesota goal/no goal. After review, Minnesota's goal was awarded, BC's goal was wiped out, and the clock was rolled back to the time on the clock when Minnesota as if nothing after that point happened.

If after review, the refs original call of no goal had stood, then all subsequent play, including BC's goal would have counted.

I was at this game! The best part was all of us BC fans absolutely knew that it was a goal even it happened -- it was crystal clear. Then as the minutes dragged on it was funnier and funnier because there were only like 2 minutes left on the clock when BC "scored." We all knew the goal wasn't going to count and the clock was going to be rolled back. We barely even celebrated. I was in the band so we sort of had to play the fight song but we knew it was going to be overturned.

It was fine because the game wasn't really that close (I think that brought the Gophers within 2 maybe with a few minutes left) so it was pretty funny to us at the time.

 

[KTDC]

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He wasn't that angry (and yes, I saw your quotes). I've seen when he's been very unhappy with them, and this wasn't it. I do remember a couple of trips to Bemidji, like when the Sanford Center was new, where he didn't think much of his team's effort.

Bethany Brausen told a story of showing up to practice after one of those games. I seem to recall her saying there were no colored jerseys or pucks, just a lot of skating. Maybe they were doing herbies

 

[pokechecker]

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Maybe running through the 'cases' would clarify:

If the shot under subsequent review is ruled a goal, then can either team score a subsequent goal prior to the whistle and review?
If the shot under subsequent review is ruled no-goal, then can either team score a goal prior to the whistle and review?

I think Eeyore is saying if the shot is ruled a goal, then no subsequent goal can be scored; but if the shot is ruled a no-goal, then a subsequent goal can be scored and counted. But nobody knows which condition is in effect until the review is conducted, so play goes on.

Thank you , I am beginning to think Eeyore really is a lawyer, the ability to make the simple incomprehensible.
This has to be one of the dumbest rules in sports, it has the effect of penalizing the scored upon team as a result of the official making an incorrect call, putting them in a situation somewhat similar to a delayed penalty. They are in a lose - lose situation, meanwhile the other team can only win.

 

[ne7minder]

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He wasn't that angry (and yes, I saw your quotes). I've seen when he's been very unhappy with them, and this wasn't it. I do remember a couple of trips to Bemidji, like when the Sanford Center was new, where he didn't think much of his team's effort.

But to be fair you see him a lot more than I do & a lot closer to the final horn. That said, I appreciate his normally reserved demeanor even if his post game clips are really boring because of it. It is interesting trying to read between the lines sometimes but I have always sensed he has a side he does not show us. He said he has been having easy practices because they have not had a week off since the opening game, something tells me that won't be the case in the future.

 

[D2D]

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Saw this on Channel 5 sports earlier.

Led by Future Gopher, Hill-Murray Girls Hockey Seeks Another Late-Season Run
http://kstp.com/sports/hill-murray-...gail-boreen-minnesota-gophers/4695676/?cat=81

 

[D2D]

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Disappointing result tonight for Minnesota fans, which twice saw their team give up two goal leads. It's doubly frustrating when one of your senior captains takes a very unnecessary slashing penalty with 6 minutes to go, allowing the Bulldogs to tie it a minute later on the power play. It looked like the Gophers had tired legs in the 3rd period, giving up all 3 of UMD's goals while getting outshot 11-6. Another game where one bad period cost the Gophers a win.

 

[KTDC]

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Disappointing result tonight for Minnesota fans, which twice saw their team give up two goal leads. It's doubly frustrating when one of your senior captains takes a very unnecessary slashing penalty with 6 minutes to go, allowing the Bulldogs to tie it a minute later on the power play. It looked like the Gophers had tired legs in the 3rd period, giving up all 3 of UMD's goals while getting outshot 11-6. Another game where one bad period cost the Gophers a win.

Certainly a discouraging third period and loss. But I am looking forward to coming back for more this afternoon Hopefully our team plays a great game today and I really would like to see us finish 2017 off with a win!

 

[bluffrinkrat]

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Certainly a discouraging third period and loss. But I am looking forward to coming back for more this afternoon Hopefully our team plays a great game today and I really would like to see us finish 2017 off with a win!

And hopefully we'll see Pieper, Gunderson and Smith at least a couple of times during the game, other than on the bench I mean. Unless there is an issue with one or more of them that I don't know anything about.

 

[ne7minder]

And hopefully we'll see Pieper, Gunderson and Smith at least a couple of times during the game, other than on the bench I mean. Unless there is an issue with one or more of them that I don't know anything about.

You got your wish. I didn't think MN looked 5 goals better tonight but they looked better than last night. The towards played better D and the D played better all around. Stuff that didn't work for the forwards last night worked today. It was a great way to end 17.

 

[D2D]

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The towards played better D and the D played better all around.

And the G played better G too. Congrats to Sid on earning her shutout.

Stuff that didn't work for the forwards last night worked today.

But unlike last night they generated any number of real nice scoring passes and finishes. They were moving without the puck, getting open and had some great snipes today. I hope it's a sign of more to come.

It was a great way to end 17.

Amen.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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It was a great way to end 17.

That is the most positive thing that can be said.

 

[KTDC]

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It was a great way to end 17.

Yes

As I mentioned in UMD thread, I thought we had puck luck in the Saturday game, but I also thought the forwards played a good offensive game with some nice plays and passing. I loved the Reilly to Skarzynski one timer play. Now lets see them do that in traffic!

Very interesting move by the coaches alternating Keller/Agnew and Pieper/Gunderson with Piazza right from the start and all the way through until the whole fourth line starting playing some shifts later on. I think that happened in the third period (?).

Woken and Zumwinkle looking better and better on offense. Stepping up the defensive work for those two would be huge. Wente is coming along nicely as well. I think Knowles and Brown are having great freshman seasons and our d corp could be pretty darn good by season's end

I had confidence the team was getting better after the Wisconsin/Mankato run, even with the losses to the Badgers. Some confidence is now renewed heading into the break.

I think the marketing department is doing a pretty good job as well getting the kids out and filling up the GA sections pretty good. The first St Cloud game was a bummer (1173) but since then it's been decent with 1708 to 2187 the last 5 games. Average attendance is up for the first half over last year. Although that's misleading and we'll end the regular season down from last year, I still think it's respectable and the marketing department is deserves some credit.

 

[GoldyDad2B]

That is the most positive thing that can be said.

It was a good way to go end first half. Question, how did people (game announcers) know UMD coaches agreed to let goalie from PA school have all the starts? That nine month stint up on the shore is strange, particularly with games like Saturday. Can't say that giving up points to team under .400 in the conference is a great weekend, but Saturday was a good last game anyway heading into break.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Can't say that giving up points to team under .400 in the conference is a great weekend

Minnesota has a .500 record at home. Let that sink in...

It was surreal to watch that first game against Merrimack. There was a sequence of three goals by Merrimack where you could literally predict that if Merrimack brought the puck into Minnesota's zone and put the puck on net it was going in...The whole blame could not be put on the goaltender for that but most of it could. Lost a game where they out-shot the opponent 57-19.

The Ohio State series saw a tie game in the 3rd period of the first game end up a loss by having an Ohio State player take an extreme angle shot that deflected off the Gopher D into the net. The Gophers gave up 2 goal leads in the second game to wind up in a tie and to no one's surprise they lost the shootout. 5 conference points given up at home.

Wisconsin series is one that maybe the Gophers played their best in for the first half of the year but came away with nothing to show for it. 6 conference points lost at home.

The Bemidji series at home was probably best summed up by Scanlon when he said that sometimes it's not who you play but when you play them. As he stated they caught Minnesota a little banged up and short of players. 3 more conference points lost.

UMD series just concluded. Uncharacteristically gave up the lead in the third period in the first game as well as allowing 3 goals in the third and again, no surprise, they lost the shootout. 2 conference points lost.

And yet, in spite all of that negative stuff you can still see the potential. 10-0 on the road and a chance to rest up and make improvements after the break.