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Minnesota Golden Gophers 2009-2010: Calmly Step Away from the Ledge

Re: Minnesota Golden Gophers 2009-2010: Calmly Step Away from the Ledge

Is Cepis ok? I was out of town this weekend and unfortunately missed both games but heard he was held out of the 3rd period Saturday.

With the way it sounds like they played maybe I should go out of town more often.
 
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Driftryder said:
Is Cepis ok? I was out of town this weekend and unfortunately missed both games but heard he was held out of the 3rd period Saturday.

With the way it sounds like they played maybe I should go out of town more often.
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He was fine. He was held out of the 3rd on purpose in case things got nasty.
 
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4four4 said:
When a team beats another by four goals hardly would I ever call it a game the Gophers stole.
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If you only look at goal differential, that statement makes sense. However, if you look at the number of chances each team generated combined with the fluke nature of one Gopher goal combined with a UND shot hitting not one but two posts, I'd say my argument has a bit more merit than you might think.
 
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Bakunin said:
If you only look at goal differential, that statement makes sense. However, if you look at the number of chances each team generated combined with the fluke nature of one Gopher goal combined with a UND shot hitting not one but two posts, I'd say my argument has a bit more merit than you might think.
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I think your argument holds water. However, I think it was more just a simple difference in the level of play between the pipes. We've seen it over and over again as Gopher fans where goalies play there best games against the Gophers. Finally they got a goalie on an off night and they made him pay for it. Too often the other goalie was playing his best game and with the Gophers anemic scoring there was nothing Kangas could do about it. I hope the trend continues and the other goalies start faltering a little bit.
 
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Driftryder said:
Is Cepis ok? I was out of town this weekend and unfortunately missed both games but heard he was held out of the 3rd period Saturday.

With the way it sounds like they played maybe I should go out of town more often.
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I'll chip in for gas money and a hotel room. Who's with me?;)
 
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IMO the upcoming Gophers/SCSU series looks to be a series of fairly evenly matched teams. SCSU is a much more balanced scoring team and have seen some improvement on defense over last year. Both teams are coming off recent good runs in their last 11 games against relatively poor teams: SCSU: 9-1-1, Gophers: 8-2-1. I think it would be a mistake for anyone to assume an easy sweep or even an easy three pts. for the Gophers. SCSU has faired well so far this year against good teams splitting against Den., UW, UND, and grabbing three pts. from UMD, and will also be seeking to avoid another sweep making it 8 straight losses to the Gophers.

If the Gophers can only manage a split and CC sweeps UAA, UND may be the team to help the Gophers in the standings and PWR. UND has a stronger remaining SOS than SCSU as well. An important series to watch this weekend with significant PWR implications is UND/Cornell.
 
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Bakunin said:
If you only look at goal differential, that statement makes sense. However, if you look at the number of chances each team generated combined with the fluke nature of one Gopher goal combined with a UND shot hitting not one but two posts, I'd say my argument has a bit more merit than you might think.
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I guess I have to disagree with you and scooby. While the sioux did play a decent game, that's like saying the gophers got a game stolen from them when despite a massive shot differential they still lost. How many times this year has a puck (or two) gone off a gopher skate past kangas? I just don't believe that hitting a pair of posts or having a crazy goal go in against you is having a game stolen. If the game was close I'd agree, but not here.

The gophers stole the game on friday, not on saturday. Just my $0.02.
 
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Just looking at the polls....


I'm not suprised we can't crack the top 20 yet, But is UND's ranking at all based in reality? Seriously, they have also been bad this year and are 5th in the country? We have a chance to catch the in league standing this weekend.
 
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GOPHER FREAK said:
Just looking at the polls....


I'm not suprised we can't crack the top 20 yet, But is UND's ranking at all based in reality? Seriously, they have also been bad this year and are 5th in the country? We have a chance to catch the in league standing this weekend.
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The polls poles are pretty much a dart being thrown against a wall don't even bother with that look at the PairWise Rankings. The Sioux are currently tied for 12th.
 
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GOPHER FREAK said:
I'm not suprised we can't crack the top 20 yet, But is UND's ranking at all based in reality? Seriously, they have also been bad this year and are 5th in the country?
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Are any polls based on reality?

Driftryder said:
The polls poles are pretty much a dart being thrown against a wall don't even bother with that look at the PairWise Rankings. The Sioux are currently tied for 12th.
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The real question will be whether or not UMN can move into PWR contention from their current position of 23rd. That would be impressive.
 
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brianvf said:
The real question will be whether or not UMN can move into PWR contention from their current position of 23rd. That would be impressive.
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Seems like it will be a tough task against some strong opponents from here on out but not out of the question. Maybe we can pull a patented Sioux second half surge into the NCAA's.
 
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brianvf said:
Are any polls based on reality? The real question will be whether or not UMN can move into PWR contention from their current position of 23rd. That would be impressive.
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Good question. It depends on how one defines reality. The polls express reality as a collaboration of objective data and subjective opinions of coaches and media at a specific point in time. They take into account more subjective variables and biases that cannot be statistically operationalized. The construct and internal validity is therefore questionable from week to week. PWR is a statistical measurement of objective reality but lacks intangible variables that can easily alter perceived statistical outcomes. Viewing both in creative paradox is probably a reasonable approximation of the dynamic tension of a team's potential and statistical standing.:)
 
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Driftryder said:
Is Cepis ok? I was out of town this weekend and unfortunately missed both games but heard he was held out of the 3rd period Saturday.

With the way it sounds like they played maybe I should go out of town more often.
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Light up a cigar and enjoy my friend....:)

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Bakunin said:
If you only look at goal differential, that statement makes sense. However, if you look at the number of chances each team generated combined with the fluke nature of one Gopher goal combined with a UND shot hitting not one but two posts, I'd say my argument has a bit more merit than you might think.
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If the differential was only 2 goals, then it makes sense. But critical things like a defensive collapse that allowed the Shroeder/Cepis goal in 7 seconds from center ice, a goalie that let in Hoefels shot that was stoppable, and these are 'generated chances'. It was pretty one sided. As far deciding what were chances generated, that would be very subjective and what you saw versus what I saw I'm thinking would be two very different things.

As far as the national rankings go, there's a bias for teams that were rated high, one loss won't change them but more than a game or two will make a difference.
 
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Just got a tweet from Hammy that Hoeffel is out for a while with Mono.

****.
 
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HarleyMC said:
Light up a cigar and enjoy my friend....:)

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Fun stuff. Thanks Harley.
 
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HarleyMC said:
Light up a cigar and enjoy my friend....:)

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I liked Hansen with his impression of the Polish Leap.
 
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