Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
Brooky, I assume mean only a misconduct and NOT a game misconduct?
Brooky, I assume mean only a misconduct and NOT a game misconduct?
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Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
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brookyone
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
Here's the box score: http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1213/boxes/wminstl1.o13
Here's the box score: http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1213/boxes/wminstl1.o13
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
As listed in the box score, Kessel's penalty was only a game misconduct, not a game DQ, so she'll be eligible to play next Friday unless supplemental discipline is issued. Having not seen the video, I have no idea if it's even warranted or not. But procedurally, given that this occurred on the road in a non-conference game, I'm not sure what governing body would even hand out such a decision -- does anyone have insight on this?
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Not certain on this, but it would make sense that even though the infraction occurred in a non-conference game, NCAA rules do still apply - including those dealing with game misconducts and game disqualification penalties. So if Kessel's infraction does in fact turn out to be a game DQ, I would assume she would not be permitted to play in the next NCAA game. Again, not 100% on this. But based on the box score, and assuming it's accurate and not changed, it would appear that #8 will be eligible to play his coming Friday.
P.S. I did not see the video either, but to receive a game DQ for grabbing the facemask seems a bit harsh to me...UNLESS it's truly violent resulting in the opponent being thrown down and/or severely twisting her neck. Although it's apples and oranges, it's interesting to compare: in football a facemask penalty is "only" 15 yards, and only 5 yards if it's of a momentary/inadvertent nature. Either way, the offending player does not have to leave the game, and it does not affect his eligibility to play in the next game. Again, I did not see the video, and I'm not sure if there are "degrees" of this infraction and how much leeway the referee has in terms of what to call. I guess we'll find out shortly.
Not certain on this, but it would make sense that even though the infraction occurred in a non-conference game, NCAA rules do still apply - including those dealing with game misconducts and game disqualification penalties. So if Kessel's infraction does in fact turn out to be a game DQ, I would assume she would not be permitted to play in the next NCAA game. Again, not 100% on this. But based on the box score, and assuming it's accurate and not changed, it would appear that #8 will be eligible to play his coming Friday.
P.S. I did not see the video either, but to receive a game DQ for grabbing the facemask seems a bit harsh to me...UNLESS it's truly violent resulting in the opponent being thrown down and/or severely twisting her neck. Although it's apples and oranges, it's interesting to compare: in football a facemask penalty is "only" 15 yards, and only 5 yards if it's of a momentary/inadvertent nature. Either way, the offending player does not have to leave the game, and it does not affect his eligibility to play in the next game. Again, I did not see the video, and I'm not sure if there are "degrees" of this infraction and how much leeway the referee has in terms of what to call. I guess we'll find out shortly.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
No, according to the available box score it was called a GAME misconduct ( http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1213/boxes/wminstl1.o13 ) and the question is, could/will it be changed to a Game DQ?
No, according to the available box score it was called a GAME misconduct ( http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1213/boxes/wminstl1.o13 ) and the question is, could/will it be changed to a Game DQ?
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
I know that it happened last February -- Ohio State's Ally Tarr received a game misconduct for a hit on Emily West in the first game of series in Columbus, but played in the second game -- but, upon review, the WCHA suspended Tarr one game for the next weekend. Per the press release...
My only question is whether or not the WCHA has the authority to review such a play in a non-conference game in which the member team was the visitor. And if they don't, does any other body have such authority?
Now we're getting into technical semantics. The box score won't change -- it will still remain listed as a misconduct penalty because that's what was called on the ice. But there is a possibility that some governing body (and this was my question -- which governing body would it be? WCHA? NCAA?) could issue supplemental discipline (i.e. a suspension).
I know that it happened last February -- Ohio State's Ally Tarr received a game misconduct for a hit on Emily West in the first game of series in Columbus, but played in the second game -- but, upon review, the WCHA suspended Tarr one game for the next weekend. Per the press release...
My only question is whether or not the WCHA has the authority to review such a play in a non-conference game in which the member team was the visitor. And if they don't, does any other body have such authority?
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
I don't know the answer to your question beyond that. It doesn't make sense that the ECAC Hockey league officials have the authority to suspend Kessel after the fact for upcoming WCHA action. Now whether that falls to the WCHA or if someone is always home at the NCAA, I'll try to get an answer at some point.
My guess is that the WCHA does have authority over its players/coaches at any time. At NCAA tournament time, I'd expect that somebody representing the NCAA is always on site so that a review can be expedited, similar to when Joe Torre was at the St. Louis at Atlanta one-game playoff representing MLB and could handle the Atlanta protest regarding the infield fly rule immediately. So if the Kessel play in question happened in an NCAA semifinal, the review could be expedited and a decision reached on whether or not she was eligible to play in the final.
I don't know the answer to your question beyond that. It doesn't make sense that the ECAC Hockey league officials have the authority to suspend Kessel after the fact for upcoming WCHA action. Now whether that falls to the WCHA or if someone is always home at the NCAA, I'll try to get an answer at some point.
brookyone
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
MN Daily recaps Friday's game: http://www.mndaily.com/2012/10/13/minnesota-shuts-out-st-lawrence
MN Daily recaps Friday's game: http://www.mndaily.com/2012/10/13/minnesota-shuts-out-st-lawrence
brookyone
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
http://www.mndaily.com/2012/10/15/strong-penalty-kill-leads-sweep
http://www.mndaily.com/2012/10/15/strong-penalty-kill-leads-sweep
brookyone
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
It doesn't mean anything...just my own selfish wishful thinking.
brookyone
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
http://www.mndaily.com/2012/10/18/gophers-meet-first-ranked-foe
Thought St. Lawrence was ranked when they played?
http://www.mndaily.com/2012/10/18/gophers-meet-first-ranked-foe
Thought St. Lawrence was ranked when they played?
ARM
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
No, SLU came into the season ranked, but essentially swapped places with Clarkson after the Golden Knights swept the Saints.
brookyone
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
Let me second that well deserved hearty congratulations. An awesome and most impressive milestone! Congrats to Megan!. Nice she could do it at Ridder.
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
With all due respect to whomever it is picking the three stars of the game and with apologies to Hannah Brandt who certainly, certainly had the stats tonight and who certainly played like the number 1 star, for huge portions of the game, particularly in the second period when the outcome of the game was definitively sealed, Amanda Kessel was the by far dominant player.
There were lots and lots of pretty plays in the game including at least one by Ohio State (I am thinking the second goal) but the first two goals of the second period were both outstanding works of art.
On the first Ramsey made a couple of great plays and got the reward. She corralled the puck in the defensive zone and made the breakout pass to Kessel lurking along the right wing boards. Good enough play already but she saw the open ice ahead and skated hard to get herself into it. Kessel saw her the whole way, held the puck down the right wing side until Ramsey's hustle put her in alone behind the Buckeye defense, then Kessel feathered the perfect pass for a picture pretty goal by Ramsey.
The second goal featured one of those classic no one had to shoot the puck power play goals, the Gophers just passed it around until Kessel emerging from the left wing corner made the final pass across the crease to a couldn't have been more alone McMillen who only had to make sure the puck hit her stick as she made the final pass, the one into the back of the net for another one so pretty that everyone wants a picture of it goal.
Brandt deserves number 1 star, so does Kessel.
With all due respect to whomever it is picking the three stars of the game and with apologies to Hannah Brandt who certainly, certainly had the stats tonight and who certainly played like the number 1 star, for huge portions of the game, particularly in the second period when the outcome of the game was definitively sealed, Amanda Kessel was the by far dominant player.
There were lots and lots of pretty plays in the game including at least one by Ohio State (I am thinking the second goal) but the first two goals of the second period were both outstanding works of art.
On the first Ramsey made a couple of great plays and got the reward. She corralled the puck in the defensive zone and made the breakout pass to Kessel lurking along the right wing boards. Good enough play already but she saw the open ice ahead and skated hard to get herself into it. Kessel saw her the whole way, held the puck down the right wing side until Ramsey's hustle put her in alone behind the Buckeye defense, then Kessel feathered the perfect pass for a picture pretty goal by Ramsey.
The second goal featured one of those classic no one had to shoot the puck power play goals, the Gophers just passed it around until Kessel emerging from the left wing corner made the final pass across the crease to a couldn't have been more alone McMillen who only had to make sure the puck hit her stick as she made the final pass, the one into the back of the net for another one so pretty that everyone wants a picture of it goal.
Brandt deserves number 1 star, so does Kessel.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2012-2013
It was obvious to me that neither Brandt or Kessel cared who was going to named the No. 1 star, because both of them are total team players.
It was obvious to me that neither Brandt or Kessel cared who was going to named the No. 1 star, because both of them are total team players.
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