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Minnesota Girls High School Hockey III

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joehockey said:
That is exactly the situation. Family is a talented committed hockey family with 1 daughter playing D1, this daughter committed to D1 school and a National Camp son attending, playing & studying at SSM. Family has business interests around the Twin Cities.

A family moving into a central area of the metro to an established program is an option completely approved under the rules. Heck if you had a talented daughter and were considering a move wouldn't you consider the chance to have her learn further under Vic Brodt one of the top accomplished coaches in the State of Hockey and a great man?
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Joe, I believe you are saying that the parents moved into the Roseville Area school district primarily (or maybe solely?) so their daughter could improve as a hockey player? Despite the fact that she is now a senior and has already committed to a D1 school? While I'm a huge proponent of open enrollment and individual choice generally, and in fact I wish the MSHSL hadn't even passed the transfer rule, I believe this particular decision COULD be a little over the top if the ONLY reason they moved was so the daughter could play her final season at Roseville. Perhaps there are extenuating circumstances, who knows. Whatever may have figured into their decision, I do support the family's right to make it, and I wish her the best of luck.
 
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The girl in question is leaving a very good coach! I would put him up against any coach. I'm pretty sure the move is to win. Coach Brodt better make sure they live in the new house as I'm sure there will be many watching.
 
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D2D said:
Joe, I believe you are saying that the parents moved into the Roseville Area school district primarily (or maybe solely?) so their daughter could improve as a hockey player? Despite the fact that she is now a senior and has already committed to a D1 school? While I'm a huge proponent of open enrollment and individual choice generally, and in fact I wish the MSHSL hadn't even passed the transfer rule, I believe this particular decision COULD be a little over the top if the ONLY reason they moved was so the daughter could play her final season at Roseville. Perhaps there are extenuating circumstances, who knows. Whatever may have figured into their decision, I do support the family's right to make it, and I wish her the best of luck.
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No what I said is they moved to a more central part of the metro area as I understand - it fit their family and business needs..
 
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There can be many circumstances that drive these decisions but when a family moves it does impact both teams and many times the communities. This can be a welcome change or create a lot of dissatisfaction. I am sure this situation was well researched and arrangements made where the family and coaches must be comfortable. So as long as the rule allows for these changes it will continue. The positive thing I am hearing is that most college coaches are not encouraging these Sr. year transfers. They understand that a lot of the development is occurring in spring through fall and the Sr. HS season is a chance to finish their HS careers with their friends and enjoy and get the most out of their last year. Maybe more importantly, they have an opportunity to refine their leadership skills both on and off the ice. The transition to college and D-I hockey will take a great deal of energy and commitment and a successful senior year on the ice, in the classroom, and socially is a perfect stepping stone into the freshman year. A Sr. transition year and then another step to college is a difficult task.
 
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Seriously, who cares? People move every day, and it is no one's business why.:rolleyes:
 
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I can understand that response coming from someone from outside Minnesota, however the topic is a much talked about, very controversial topic here. I'm not making a judgement on a family's decision, just pointing out that lots of people care, including the Minnestota State High School League.
 
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Still A Game said:
I can understand that response coming from someone from outside Minnesota, however the topic is a much talked about, very controversial topic here. I'm not making a judgement on a family's decision, just pointing out that lots of people care, including the Minnestota State High School League.
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It's definitely the legitimate business of the MSHSL...no question about that. However many complaints, grumblings and judgements including negative comments made publicly that too often (speaking in general, not just this particular example) are directed at specific individuals and come from sources whose business it is not. We're talking about 17 year old kids...or younger and I find it disappointing when adults will publicly question or condemn the character of the kids or integrity of their parents...often enough in absence of knowledge of facts. I know of one clear example of a young player and her family being lambasted repeatedly in the high school forum in response to her transferring. All kinds of accusations were flying. I know the family...they moved...bought a new home in another school district for reasons 100% unrelated to hockey.

I can understand some distaste for multiple transfers by one individual that are motivated by hockey aspirations. Seen that as well. Best policy IMO is let the MSHSL police and enforce transfer rules. Nothing wrong with talking about the transfer issues...I'd just like to not read negative comments concerning specific kids in a public forum.
 
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brookyone said:
...I'd just like to not read negative comments concerning specific kids in a public forum.
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Good for you. But really, since you won't shut up when asked, I dont think anyone else should shut up when you ask.


17 yr olds (and younger) can be, and are often, tried as adults. This is a hockey forum...and an overall extremely mild forum at that. Take your chupe back to the play pen.
 
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I have no problem with a player transferring. Just make sure you do it for the right reasons and make sure all your ducks are in a row and actually move. Which I'm sure is going to happen. Just hate to see a team as talented as Roseville have to forfeit games because of an illegal player. But to answer who cares? Maybe a coach who helped a player get a D1 scholarship by making numerous phone calls or the 20 or so teammates who were counting on a player as captain to lead them? Nothing would change for either team whether the player stayed or goes. One will win everything and one will lose more than they win. I hope it's not the case and the later surprises everyone.
 
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RStarr said:
Good for you. But really, since you won't shut up when asked, I dont think anyone else should shut up when you ask.
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I didn't ask, or tell anyone to shut up. There will very likely be times ahead when I'll continue to opine in the presence of attempts to stifle those opinions. Better be prepared for that...or complain to the administration if unable to accept that reality.

We were discussing high school student athlete transfers in Minnesota by the way. Anything on topic to add?


RStarr said:
17 yr olds (and younger) can be, and are often, tried as adults. This is a hockey forum...and an overall extremely mild forum at that. Take your chupe back to the play pen.
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Great analogy. :rolleyes: Did the thread topic change to juvenile criminal activity in Minnesota while I was away?

RStarr said:
Good for you. But really, since you won't shut up when asked, I dont think anyone else should shut up when you ask.


17 yr olds (and younger) can be, and are often, tried as adults. This is a hockey forum...and an overall extremely mild forum at that. Take your chupe back to the play pen.
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I guess this is yet another instance of that self absorbed bully brookyone going off topic and starting something. In response, I sold my play pen a couple weeks back, thus, I'll probably be staying right here for awhile.
 
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WCHFan said:
Just hate to see a team as talented as Roseville have to forfeit games because of an illegal player.
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ManBehindTheCurtain said:
This seem a little over the top. "Illegal player" is pretty strong talk.
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I was gonna ask about that. Would Vic Brodt actually put his team in that position? He's an excellent coach in my view. I can't believe he'd ever do anything that would potentially risk forfeiture of a bunch of games. I'd also be surprised if he wasn't 100% aware when it comes to his players eligibility.

Not implying that no one would ever attempt to pull a fast one regarding actual place of residence, but he's someone I would not expect to get caught with his pants down in such a situation.
 
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The talk is coming from the parents on the old team. Was told the first house hasn't sold and that you must show residency. Like I said I'm sure everything will work out but yes if the family doesn't move into the new house there could be a problem. Of course parents can be a little misguided bitter and wrong with their opinions and ready to pounce. The family in question are very good people and I'm sure they will do the right things. I did say I have no problem with transfers. I wanted to add that things have to be done the right way and there would be huge consequences if not. Also that transfers can effect many people and many involved do care.
 
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capitalist2 said:
Were you going somewhere with this?
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No, other than the games against SSM so far have been very competitive, which was not usually the case when the Elite League first started several years ago. I'm not sure if this is due to the Minnesota High School girls getting better, or if SSM maybe is not quite as talented as they used to be.
 
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D2D said:
No, other than the games against SSM so far have been very competitive, which was not usually the case when the Elite League first started several years ago. I'm not sure if this is due to the Minnesota High School girls getting better, or if SSM maybe is not quite as talented as they used to be.
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Who needs SSM when you have BSM! ;)
 
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