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Michigan Wolverines 2016-2017 Season

Re: Michigan Wolverines 2016-2017 Season

RapidsCity said:
Football: 3 way tie for 4th overall. Basketball 5th. Hockey 5th. Original Blimpy Burger gone. Why would anyone want to go to Ann Arbor? Kid Rock sang, "It ain't bragging m*********** if you can back it up." You can't back it up. You'll never need to wonder why there are so many Michigan haters out there.
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Quoting white trash music like kid rock.

Nice. Also, Basketball went 2-0 against the B1G regular season champion and won the B1G Tournament.
 
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J.D. said:
I would expect Michigan to be better next year than they were this year. It was a one year decline IMO. always gonna get talent.
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then you have not been following this program that long. It hasn't been great for about a decade outside of Shawn Hunwick.
 
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UMICH said:
Keep living in denial. It's warmer there than Houghton.

How is anything that I said Trump stuff? Oh, and pretty sure that Houghton County voted for Trump. Washtenaw County went to Hillary, I'm not a Hillary fan but she is magnitudes better than Mr. Reality TV...

You're not even in our division except in hockey. Go away lil'boy....
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Hmm. Well i have to admit as a Tech grad and engineering manager, that the UM engineers on my team are really not too bad at all. They require a little more hand holding than my Huskies (and Badger) but they do ok.
 
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Brian Wiseman and Billy Powers are candidates according to John U. Bacon.

No thanks. If they were the answer, things wouldn't have gone downhill the moment Mel left.
 
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Not knowing much about your non-Pearson options, what alumni coaches are out there for you guys to look into?

I know Mike Knuble, Bill Muckalt, and John Madden are coaching to varying extents, with Muckalt and Madden having HC experience.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Not knowing much about your non-Pearson options, what alumni coaches are out there for you guys to look into?

I know Mike Knuble, Bill Muckalt, and John Madden are coaching to varying extents, with Muckalt and Madden having HC experience.
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That's a longer list of possible alumni than any I've seen. Muckalt seems to have some advantage over Knuble or Madden, seems like.
 
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wolverine318 said:
then you have not been following this program that long. It hasn't been great for about a decade outside of Shawn Hunwick.
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Only if you look at W-L's.

People keep downplaying the idea of all the guys in the NHL that have played at Yost in the last 5 years. Other than the problem that they could not get it done here, they were clearly some great talent. Again, 5 players in the NHL as the season ended could have still been on this team. This isn't an issue that should be overlooked, IMHO.

If Red really had a fault- it was how to deal with the very talented players he had. 2007's team was had a LOT of talent on them, but it was 2008's team with huge departures that made it to the frozen four. And Hunwick was a walk on.
 
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alfablue said:
Only if you look at W-L's.

People keep downplaying the idea of all the guys in the NHL that have played at Yost in the last 5 years. Other than the problem that they could not get it done here, they were clearly some great talent. Again, 5 players in the NHL as the season ended could have still been on this team. This isn't an issue that should be overlooked, IMHO.

If Red really had a fault- it was how to deal with the very talented players he had. 2007's team was had a LOT of talent on them, but it was 2008's team with huge departures that made it to the frozen four. And Hunwick was a walk on.
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Or Corsi stats. There has been pretty dramatic decline over the past decade in offensive efficiency with just last year as an outlier.

I agree there is talent here. Where I disagree, is how well that talent is being developed. I also believe a younger and more energetic coach will relate to players better and keep them more in-tow; reducing both off-the-ice issues (which have been increasing over the past few seasons) and recruiting his current roster to return to complete their committments to the program. Red has done a pretty **** poor job of convincing his more talented athletes to remain in the program. There have also been a decrease in development over the years where some players have actually gotten worst in their development as athletes. Freshmen should not regularly leading in points and goals.
 
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wolverine318 said:
Or Corsi stats. There has been pretty dramatic decline over the past decade in offensive efficiency with just last year as an outlier.

I agree there is talent here. Where I disagree, is how well that talent is being developed. I also believe a younger and more energetic coach will relate to players better and keep them more in-tow; reducing both off-the-ice issues (which have been increasing over the past few seasons) and recruiting his current roster to return to complete their committments to the program. Red has done a pretty **** poor job of convincing his more talented athletes to remain in the program. There have also been a decrease in development over the years where some players have actually gotten worst in their development as athletes. Freshmen should not regularly leading in points and goals.
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So by disagreeing, you are agreeing with my point that Red's major fault was how to deal with talent. ;)

Thing is- we knew that a LONG time ago. Like with TJ Hensick, and how he and Jack Johnson split up the team back in '06-07.

Or before that- how to keep Al Montoya interested in the net.

None of this is new, but prior teams were able to better deal with it.
 
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Mel Pearson is a terrible ice hockey coach and should by no means be considered by Michigan. Plus he's old as dirt and struggles with the English language.
 
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alfablue said:
So by disagreeing, you are agreeing with my point that Red's major fault was how to deal with talent. ;)

Thing is- we knew that a LONG time ago. Like with TJ Hensick, and how he and Jack Johnson split up the team back in '06-07.

Or before that- how to keep Al Montoya interested in the net.

None of this is new, but prior teams were able to better deal with it.
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Wasn't Mel a part of the staff for each of those examples?
 
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is Pearson the consensus pick of Michigan fans? He might be a great coach but he's pushing 60. I would think Michigan should be able to attract a lot of younger hot shot coaches.
 
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