Michigan Wolverines 2015-2016 Season

[fr. joe]

Re: Michigan Wolverines 2015-2016 Season

QUOTE=MGoBlueHockey;6284415]New info came out today on Rivals about the Hockey scenario.

It's all but officially announced that Red is retiring after the season.

What's going to stun you is the most commonly heard candidate. -

Nate Leaman of Providence (unlikely imo)
Rand Pecknold of Quinnipiac

That's the name people are hearing the most aside from Pearson.[/QUOTE]

Pecknold's more interested in Hockey East... don't be surprised when they come and talk to Q.

 

[spartyon58]

Re: Michigan Wolverines 2015-2016 Season

QUOTE=MGoBlueHockey;6284415]New info came out today on Rivals about the Hockey scenario.

It's all but officially announced that Red is retiring after the season.

What's going to stun you is the most commonly heard candidate. -

Nate Leaman of Providence (unlikely imo)
Rand Pecknold of Quinnipiac

That's the name people are hearing the most aside from Pearson.

Pecknold's more interested in Hockey East... don't be surprised when they come and talk to Q.[/QUOTE]

Danton Cole would make sense with the number of commitments coming to UM from the NTDP.

 

[Khryx]

New info came out today on Rivals about the Hockey scenario.

It's all but officially announced that Red is retiring after the season.

What's going to stun you is the most commonly heard candidate. In order-

Danton Cole(!)
Mel Pearson
Brian Wiseman (*** )
Nate Leaman of Providence (unlikely imo)
Rand Pecknold of Quinnipiac
Derek Schooley of Robert Morris
Enrico Blasi.........

Danton Cole is said to be more interested in the Michigan job than an opening at state based on how he they treated him the last time they went looking for a coach and found a disgraced conference commissioner.

That's the name people are hearing the most aside from Pearson.

Mind sharing a reference to the Rivals page you are referencing? The last news I had heard was from the <a href=https://www.michigandaily.com/section/sports/manuel-will-defer-berenson-hockey-programs-future>Daily</a>.

 

[MGoBlueHockey]

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Mind sharing a reference to the Rivals page you are referencing? The last news I had heard was from the <a href=https://www.michigandaily.com/section/sports/manuel-will-defer-berenson-hockey-programs-future>Daily</a>.

The Michael Spath ITF extra. It's on the premium site.

 

[blazer777]

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Bumping this to get the packers off the front page

"Go Blue!" to stay relevant

 

[UMICH]

Re: Michigan Wolverines 2015-2016 Season

New info came out today on Rivals about the Hockey scenario.

It's all but officially announced that Red is retiring after the season.

What's going to stun you is the most commonly heard candidate. In order-

Danton Cole(!)
Mel Pearson
Brian Wiseman (*** )
Nate Leaman of Providence (unlikely imo)
Rand Pecknold of Quinnipiac
Derek Schooley of Robert Morris
Enrico Blasi.........

Danton Cole is said to be more interested in the Michigan job than an opening at state based on how he they treated him the last time they went looking for a coach and found a disgraced conference commissioner.

That's the name people are hearing the most aside from Pearson.

I honestly know very little inside information regarding the hockey program currently but from what I've witnessed (which isn't much) is that Wiseman has a chance. He's actually doing most of the in-game coaching from what can tell too. I guess that I'm on the outs as far as why you are not thrilled with Wiseman. Care to elaborate? Also, I've gotta believe that Coach Berenson has significant input on who takes over, he's earned that (and more). Obviously Coach would like for Mel to come home and take over, that's a given. However that does not appear too likely (but ya never know). With that being the case who do you think is his next choice? On the outside Danton Cole looks like a good selection but be careful, you don't want to go too far away from what got you here. Didn't we just learn that through the football debacle?

Onto another tangent, I love Yost as much as anyone but let's be honest, eventually we'll need a new arena. What are the odds that it is named the Berenson Ice Arena? I'd like to open the line at 4:1, although I think I'm underestimating it.

 

[alfablue]

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I honestly know very little inside information regarding the hockey program currently but from what I've witnessed (which isn't much) is that Wiseman has a chance. He's actually doing most of the in-game coaching from what can tell too. I guess that I'm on the outs as far as why you are not thrilled with Wiseman. Care to elaborate? Also, I've gotta believe that Coach Berenson has significant input on who takes over, he's earned that (and more). Obviously Coach would like for Mel to come home and take over, that's a given. However that does not appear too likely (but ya never know). With that being the case who do you think is his next choice? On the outside Danton Cole looks like a good selection but be careful, you don't want to go too far away from what got you here. Didn't we just learn that through the football debacle?

Onto another tangent, I love Yost as much as anyone but let's be honest, eventually we'll need a new arena. What are the odds that it is named the Berenson Ice Arena? I'd like to open the line at 4:1, although I think I'm underestimating it.

I know Tech people will be pretty upset, but I do think Mel will come back and be HC. My dad is a Techie, and I think he's pretty convinced, too.

IF there's a new arena, I'd say the odds are really good for the Berenson name. Then again, some of the names of the facilities have nothing to do with that sport. So... Yost was a football guy, and Yost Field House did have some practices, but also was indoor track, basketball, etc. Fritz Crisler didn't exactly have anything do to with Basketball. Don Canham was the AD, not a swimming guy. I guess at least Ray Fisher was a Baseball coach. And I bet Alumni Field will quickly be renamed after Hutch retires.

 

[MGoBlueHockey]

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I honestly know very little inside information regarding the hockey program currently but from what I've witnessed (which isn't much) is that Wiseman has a chance. He's actually doing most of the in-game coaching from what can tell too. I guess that I'm on the outs as far as why you are not thrilled with Wiseman. Care to elaborate? Also, I've gotta believe that Coach Berenson has significant input on who takes over, he's earned that (and more). Obviously Coach would like for Mel to come home and take over, that's a given. However that does not appear too likely (but ya never know). With that being the case who do you think is his next choice? On the outside Danton Cole looks like a good selection but be careful, you don't want to go too far away from what got you here. Didn't we just learn that through the football debacle?

Onto another tangent, I love Yost as much as anyone but let's be honest, eventually we'll need a new arena. What are the odds that it is named the Berenson Ice Arena? I'd like to open the line at 4:1, although I think I'm underestimating it.

Wiseman has barely any coaching experience and would a disaster hire. Think Brady Hoke but with zero head coaching experience. That would be a slightly better hire than Anastos. Anastos had a little bit less coaching experience than Wiseman does. Shut it down if that happens.

Cool, he's doing in-game coaching. And the team still repeats the same mistakes they have been the last 4 years. If Red has input and that's his guy......that would be akin to Football hiring Ron English in 2008 because Carr wanted him.

Why on earth would we settle for someone with absolutely no experience when there are real options out there?

Warde Manuel knows what will work and what won't. The new boss, same as the old boss thing is a non-starter since the team has not improved in 4 years. They're a lock to make the tournament because their entire schedule is an absolute joke. Joke non-conference, joke conference. We're still seeing the same problems we have the last 4 years. Nothing has changed. Still can't win the must-win games.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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What about Rick Bennett? Seems like Gadowsky has done some great things after coming from Princeton to PSU, no reason Bennett, a disciple of Nate Leaman couldn't do good things for Michigan?

And anyone that says Mel should "come home" to Michigan isn't exactly come across as smart. He may have been there for a long time, but a kid born in Vancouver, who grew up in Edina, MN and went to college at Michigan Tech isn't "coming home" to Ann Arbor. Will he take the job if offered? I certainly hope not but it does seem to be at least a coin toss. I hate the thought of having to replace him.

 

[MGoBlueHockey]

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What about Rick Bennett? Seems like Gadowsky has done some great things after coming from Princeton to PSU, no reason Bennett, a disciple of Nate Leaman couldn't do good things for Michigan?

And anyone that says Mel should "come home" to Michigan isn't exactly come across as smart. He may have been there for a long time, but a kid born in Vancouver, who grew up in Edina, MN and went to college at Michigan Tech isn't "coming home" to Ann Arbor. Will he take the job if offered? I certainly hope not but it does seem to be at least a coin toss. I hate the thought of having to replace him.

Danton Cole would be the bigger hire right now and from what that article said, he's the leading candidate right now.

That UAH team he took to the NCAA Tournament nearly upset Miami and would've faced Michigan in the regional final. It was only a 2-1 loss.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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Danton Cole would be the bigger hire right now and from what that article said, he's the leading candidate right now.

That UAH team he took to the NCAA Tournament nearly upset Miami and would've faced Michigan in the regional final. It was only a 2-1 loss.

Hiring a guy who coached one of the most obscure college teams for 3 years and led them to 3rd place finish in a 4 team conference and managed to win a game in the NCAA tournament is a bigger hire than a guy with a national championship, 3rd place finish on his resume, and two conference regular season titles? Why because its all perceived to be inheritance from Nate Leaman?

 

[manurespreader]

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Any of the candidates you have listed earlier would be real good. You will have to raise the pay over what it is now to get one of them though. Even then it's no slam dunk. I'm sure they are developing a list of guys to interview. The only thing I resent is the coming home reference.
In fact, to list the factors. Positives: Very large Big time school, plenty of resources, easy air travel, Fairly easy recruiting. Good admin support. And the negatives: Don't mess up/lose. (So the position is not as secure as some others.) Rink is a significant negative, Hockey is an afterthought at Michigan.
Other schools have equal or better assets in many ways. Players these days do not get better exposure at a big school than a small one. The scouts find you wherever you are, in fact even AIC has scouts go.

 

[MGoBlueHockey]

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Any of the candidates you have listed earlier would be real good. You will have to raise the pay over what it is now to get one of them though. Even then it's no slam dunk. I'm sure they are developing a list of guys to interview. The only thing I resent is the coming home reference.
In fact, to list the factors. Positives: Very large Big time school, plenty of resources, easy air travel, Fairly easy recruiting. Good admin support. And the negatives: Don't mess up/lose. (So the position is not as secure as some others.) Rink is a significant negative, Hockey is an afterthought at Michigan.
Other schools have equal or better assets in many ways. Players these days do not get better exposure at a big school than a small one. The scouts find you wherever you are, in fact even AIC has scouts go.

Rink is a negative?! I haven't really seen the negative in recruiting. Three first round draft picks to play here in the last 4 years. Give me near-100 year-old Yost over some characterless new building any day.

Hockey is not an afterthought here. It's a niche sport, but it always gets good attendance unless it's against some obscure AHA team that not many people have heard of. It's not #1, but hockey is #1 at very few all-sports D1 schools. The ones it is #1 at are ones that are mid-majors.

It can rise up to #2 depending on bad Basketball is playing. It WAS #2 for the entire 2000s.

Playing in the B1G Mistake has lowered attendance. Believe me when I say, 99.9% of Michigan fans hate this league.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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And the negatives: Don't mess up/lose. (So the position is not as secure as some others.) Rink is a significant negative, Hockey is an afterthought at Michigan.

It's really hard to say the rink is a negative without knowing what the behind the scenes facilities are like. A smaller intimate building like Yost could be an asset because it's easier to fill. As long as the amenities are there for the coaches and players, I think you're over stating it...it's not the Ralph but nothing else is and I'm sure right now, the Badgers wish they had a smaller hockey rink so it didn't feel so empty.

 

[UMICH]

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Rink is a significant negative, Hockey is an afterthought at Michigan.

Wrong. I have spoken with multiple players. Eric Nystrom, Mike Cammalleri, Mike Komisarek, Al Montoya, Kevin Porter, Marty Turco, etc. who have all stated that playing in Yost was a significant factor in why they came to Michigan. And I know that most people haven't been in the locker-room, weight-room, film-room, etc in Yost but I have. They are definitely on par with, if not beyond what most other schools have. Now I've never been to North Dakota but I have heard that is phenomenal, so what else do they have other than a world class curling facility? There is nothing in North Dakota other than UND Hockey, that's why it is basically a professional team. At Michihgamn you get everything. World class athetics (not just hockey), an elite academic university, one of the top medical centers in the nation, a great college town, the college life, etc. At North Dakota you have hockey and snow....

 

[John J. MacInnes]

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Danton Cole would be the bigger hire right now and from what that article said, he's the leading candidate right now.

That UAH team he took to the NCAA Tournament nearly upset Miami and would've faced Michigan in the regional final. It was only a 2-1 loss.

Knowing Danton, I think you'd have an easier time selling me that Mel Pearson will be the new head coach...at Michigan State. Cole isn't going to Michigan. Period. Paragraph.

 

[alfablue]

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Hockey is an afterthought at Michigan.

I think you are mistaking the third most popular and third most important sport at Michigan as an afterthought.

I know you've been to games here- not sure how you come up with that.

I also disagree about the rink being a negative. The only issue right now is that the offices are being shared by another program. But in terms of working and playing here, well- the facilities are really nice. A lot of us don't like how the visitors area has worked out, too- so there is some movement, I hear, to address that.

Not to say that there will not be a new rink someday. But it's not a distraction.

 

[MGoBlueHockey]

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I think you are mistaking the third most popular and third most important sport at Michigan as an afterthought.

I know you've been to games here- not sure how you come up with that.

I also disagree about the rink being a negative. The only issue right now is that the offices are being shared by another program. But in terms of working and playing here, well- the facilities are really nice. A lot of us don't like how the visitors area has worked out, too- so there is some movement, I hear, to address that.

Not to say that there will not be a new rink someday. But it's not a distraction.

Hockey was the #2 sport on campus for the entirety of the 2000s depending on who you ask.

Once Basketball got hot and started winning championships in 2011-12, Hockey started playing pretty poorly. It happened in the same year, oddly.

Now that Basketball is having a down year, Hockey is having a good season if you look at the record. Weird stuff.

 

[manurespreader]

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It's really hard to say the rink is a negative without knowing what the behind the scenes facilities are like. A smaller intimate building like Yost could be an asset because it's easier to fill. As long as the amenities are there for the coaches and players, I think you're over stating it...it's not the Ralph but nothing else is and I'm sure right now, the Badgers wish they had a smaller hockey rink so it didn't feel so empty.

I agree with that, I'm sure they do.
The behind the scenes facilities are pretty good, I'll admit, but a recruit looks at more than that and his parents look at more than that. Now I also said,... recruiting is relatively easier, so... at any rate, it's not Omaha, or Rochester, or State College, or any number of other, nicer rinks around. In other words, It's not a selling point, and if it's not a selling point, it's a negative. to make an analogy. If you are a New England recruit, Northeastern can try all they want to sell you that Matthews is so great, but comparing it to Agganis?

 

[alfablue]

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Home and Home with the Buckeyes starting tonight.

Can we keep in track for the B1G regular season? And just as important, can we keep solidly in the hunt for an at large bid?

I know we panned the D pretty badly last week for the loss- but honestly, the do seem to be playing better. That 3-2 OT loss could have been 5-2 3rd period meltdown- especially when Racine lets a soft one in like that.

The passing and offense from the passing is what really let us down Friday. Can be fixed- based on what we have seen.