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Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringing?

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I have two concerns going forward. How is this new transfer rule going to affect us and what’s the league going to look like in 5 years . Both of them could become issues
 
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Well, two things could happen. First is we lose a good/rising player or two a year who want to play in HE, NCHC, or B1G and/or we lose bench players or guys who don't feel fully utilized. That said, we could see guys want to come to Tech from the bigger schools who want more playing time. IMO, it really depends on the agents and teams that drafted said player. If they like a coaching staff and feel the player is progressing, they won't move them. There could be "bigger" teams (U of Mi) who over recruit and tell a kid to play a year for a LSSU and they will let them know when they (U of Mi) are ready for them.

I think your LSSU, UAA, UAF, UAB,... will still struggle, teams like Tech, MnSU,... will be fine with a little more player movement year over year. Where it will really sting is when a "money school" go on a rebuilding campaign like Wisconsin recently did and instead of loading up on new recruits, will be trying to recruit from WCHA, AH,... teams.
 
Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

Well, two things could happen. First is we lose a good/rising player or two a year who want to play in HE, NCHC, or B1G and/or we lose bench players or guys who don't feel fully utilized. That said, we could see guys want to come to Tech from the bigger schools who want more playing time. IMO, it really depends on the agents and teams that drafted said player. If they like a coaching staff and feel the player is progressing, they won't move them. There could be "bigger" teams (U of Mi) who over recruit and tell a kid to play a year for a LSSU and they will let them know when they (U of Mi) are ready for them.

I think your LSSU, UAA, UAF, UAB,... will still struggle, teams like Tech, MnSU,... will be fine with a little more player movement year over year. Where it will really sting is when a "money school" go on a rebuilding campaign like Wisconsin recently did and instead of loading up on new recruits, will be trying to recruit from WCHA, AH,... teams.
Bingo! I think it's bad for college hockey in the long run. I see Michigan has their 33ed recruit signed up this week. maybe if they try they can get the entire USHL to commit. that would ensure their winning something. maybe. Wisconsin is just as bad and you are seeing now kids decommitting from wisconsin. I think the whole thing is just like lucia's move to limit older players. it's another thing to give money schools an advantage. Now every smaller school, even like Duluth will have to spend significant resources to keep kids.
 
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Bingo! I think it's bad for college hockey in the long run. I see Michigan has their 33ed recruit signed up this week. maybe if they try they can get the entire USHL to commit. that would ensure their winning something. maybe. Wisconsin is just as bad and you are seeing now kids decommitting from wisconsin. I think the whole thing is just like lucia's move too limit older players. it's another thing to give money schools an advantage. Now every smaller school, even like Duluth will have to spend significant resources to keep kids.
I disagree with the reason. This is a giant push back on coaches having all the power and $ in college sports. They can leave but players are stuck. Players should have more freedom to leave, but I'm not sure how it will play out. It may end up being bad, but that doesn't make it less valuable in improving things for the players.
 
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Bingo! I think it's bad for college hockey in the long run. I see Michigan has their 33ed recruit signed up this week. maybe if they try they can get the entire USHL to commit. that would ensure their winning something. maybe. Wisconsin is just as bad and you are seeing now kids decommitting from wisconsin. I think the whole thing is just like lucia's move to limit older players. it's another thing to give money schools an advantage. Now every smaller school, even like Duluth will have to spend significant resources to keep kids.

There is only so much ice time. Right there will keep the college landscape fairly consistent. Even now there are players like Packy who are on team #3 in 3 years. More than likely there will be more guys who are moving around looking for ice time, but I don't see it being more than 20-30 guys across all leagues. It would benefit players like Ford who get pushed out at a bigger school, essentially by no fault of their own, not having to fight for their eligibility and lose a year of game time.
 
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There is only so much ice time. Right there will keep the college landscape fairly consistent. Even now there are players like Packy who are on team #3 in 3 years. More than likely there will be more guys who are moving around looking for ice time, but I don't see it being more than 20-30 guys across all leagues. It would benefit players like Ford who get pushed out at a bigger school, essentially by no fault of their own, not having to fight for their eligibility and lose a year of game time.
I don't think Ford was pushed out at Wisconsin; I could be wrong, but I thought he left on his own. I believe he played every game for them as a freshman until he left and went back to the USHL. That was a year they weren't doing very well. I don't know his circumstance at that time but it appears he backed out on his commitment not the other way around. If someone knows otherwise please reply in his defense.

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I don't think Ford was pushed out at Wisconsin; I could be wrong, but I thought he left on his own. I believe he played every game for them as a freshman until he left and went back to the USHL. That was a year they weren't doing very well. I don't know his circumstance at that time but it appears he backed out on his commitment not the other way around. If someone knows otherwise please reply in his defense.

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I was not talking about Ford specifically, that is why I used the word like. It was a recent example of a transfer. There were "recent" changes in the Wisconsin hockey program with an amount of player movement. More transfers will result from the potential new rules.
 
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The one thing that is really scary is what happens to players when a coach leaves or gets fired? Taking your time to hire a new coach could mean a lot of your roster is gone before you get hired...
 
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The one thing that is really scary is what happens to players when a coach leaves or gets fired? Taking your time to hire a new coach could mean a lot of your roster is gone before you get hired...
Another thing that's going to have an effect is that MJ is going to have to pay the players soon. The judge in Canada ruled that they are pro's and entitled to get paid. the funds set aside are not enough.
 
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Those two scenarios - a new coach doing "transfer raids" and the departure of an old coach causing a mass exodus - is why I think there should be a clause to address those two scenarios. Something about the 1-year sit rule still applying for players transferring within one season of a coaching change at either their current, or their new program.
 
Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

Those two scenarios - a new coach doing "transfer raids" and the departure of an old coach causing a mass exodus - is why I think there should be a clause to address those two scenarios. Something about the 1-year sit rule still applying for players transferring within one season of a coaching change at either their current, or their new program.

I think it should really be the other way...There should just be a rule that players are not allowed around a coaching hire. From the point a coach leaves until so many days after a coach is hired or so many days before the new academic year. Players should be given a similar freedom to coaches but they shouldn't be able to make rash decisions before the new coach is hired.
 
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Mason Blacklock in the line up tonight. Gillies out and Baltus still out.
 
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I'd still dispute the dimensions, but I think they actually lengthened the ice surface in their last round of renovations in 2008 to get it up to standard. It is still, however, the only arena in D-1 (and the only one I can actually think of) with both benches AND the penalty box on the same side of the ice. That gives Ferris a huge glass wall to chip pucks to their hearts content without sending them out of play, furthering their brand of anti-hockey.

Like watching the Watters and Russell eras at Tech. Now that was anti-hockey.
 
Re: Michigan Tech 17-18 Preseason - MacNaughton, Broadmoor... What's this year bringi

Dave Ellis claims Tony Stiles played for Canada in both the 1980 and 1988 Olympic Games. I can't find any evidence for 1980.

Edit: The Michigan Tech 2010–11 Hockey Yearbook only mentions 1988. It also has Bruce Horsch on the 1980 U.S. roster, though of course he didn't go to Lake Placid.
 
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Well tough loss. I thought we did score that one goal that they disallowed. But more importantly we keep letting in over 3 goals every game. I can't see us winning much if we keep that up. Goaltending, which I thought would resolve itself, definitely has not.We can be better for sure and the guys worked hard. We have to pick ourselves up and play better tomorrow. We might have been able to move up in the standings had we won but I think now we are looking at 5th. Maybe even 6th.
I hope Donahue is ok, I think that Ferris kid will get additional attention from the league.
Also I thought the game was not well refereed.
 
Goaltending, which I thought would resolve itself, definitely has not..

Oh, I think it has. The staff just hasn’t faced the facts yet.

It bothered me when the kid that went head hunting on Donahue was laughing in the penalty box while he was still knocked out. Have some respect. Then when he got the boot he was raising his arms to the crowd like he expected some glory for an embarrassment like that... I understand losing your head for a few seconds but that was all well after the fact when it was clearly a serious injury with possibly permanent damage. He needs to face consequences.
 
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Just another Ferris thug, I'm sure he'll get a 1-game slap on the wrist. PK was garbage tonight, and cost us the game.
 
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Just another Ferris thug, I'm sure he'll get a 1-game slap on the wrist. PK was garbage tonight, and cost us the game.
PK?? How bout a goaltender make a stop for a change. I believe if you look at the stats the guys didn't give up many chances again tonight. The chances that they are getting go in. I think the skaters played a heck of a game!
Tech had a ton of great chances, difference was their goaltender stopped way more than Techs!

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PK?? How bout a goaltender make a stop for a change. I believe if you look at the stats the guys didn't give up many chances again tonight. The chances that they are getting go in. I think the skaters played a heck of a game!
Tech had a ton of great chances, difference was their goaltender stopped way more than Techs!

Goaltender is arguably biggest part of PK, so my statement is not inaccurate.
 
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