Michigan State Hockey 202?-202?

[wsummers]

So, it's probably Nightingale.

Yes, I agree. Someone else would have been named by now.

 

[wsummers]

Everything I’m hearing from multiple sources is Nightingale will be announced this week as the new coach. While most in the MSU community are disappointed a big name wasn’t hired, this may turn out to be a good hire. First, there is no indication MSU was going to offer more than 350K. So any of the top names being floated around wasn’t going to happen. Second, the word is Adam has a much better reputation among his U-18 players than Cole had and that could result in an immediate surprise.

 

[John J. MacInnes]

Everything I’m hearing from multiple sources is Nightingale will be announced this week as the new coach. While most in the MSU community are disappointed a big name wasn’t hired, this may turn out to be a good hire. First, there is no indication MSU was going to offer more than 350K. So any of the top names being floated around wasn’t going to happen. Second, the word is Adam has a much better reputation among his U-18 players than Cole had and that could result in an immediate surprise.

Everyone keeps bleating on and on about the NTDP players. That's not where you're going to rebuild this program. Southern Ontario and BC are where they need to reestablish Michigan State as a place to go. A couple three kids from the U-18s are a nice bonus but you're never going to get dominant numbers from there.

That being said, Adam has transformed the personality of the U-18s to finally inject a little grit. They're not the cake eater contact averse players of the recent past. It's a much more North American style ready player coming out, and that can only help. Let's hope he can do the same at the college level.

 

[The Sicatoka]

CHN says Nightingale: https://twitter.com/chnews/status/1...n^s1_&ref_url=https://social.siouxsports.com/

So MSU alumnus who coached the U18s. ... Didn't you just fire that resume?

 

[Pirateasaur]

Well it’s official. Welcome aboard, Coach Nightingale.

 

[Dan]

Everything I’m hearing from multiple sources is Nightingale will be announced this week as the new coach. While most in the MSU community are disappointed a big name wasn’t hired, this may turn out to be a good hire. First, there is no indication MSU was going to offer more than 350K. So any of the top names being floated around wasn’t going to happen. Second, the word is Adam has a much better reputation among his U-18 players than Cole had and that could result in an immediate surprise.

Nightingale coached the U18s - who are all committed with the exception of Spicer - and even if his relationship extended to the U17s all but three of those players are already committed. Hiring a USNTDP coach due to his relationships with USNTDP players if a fools errand when 99% of the players are already committed and more than 50% of the program will turn over by the time he steps on campus...

He'll either recruit or he wont - and we'll find out - but its unlikely he'll flip his current players, so unless he can establish relationships on the recruiting trail with future classes (at the USNTDP and elsewhere), all his reputation with his current roster will result in is a few nice moments in the handshake lines over the next few seasons...

 

[aallenpollreisz]

That being said, Adam has transformed the personality of the U-18s to finally inject a little grit. They're not the cake eater contact averse players of the recent past. It's a much more North American style ready player coming out, and that can only help. Let's hope he can do the same at the college level.

His U-18s were below .500 this year in the USHL.

I’m sure he’s a good guy, but it doesn’t even seem like he’s one of the better coaches at his current level.

There’s nothing else to do but hope for the best now. MSU, at this point, is a four-year rebuild. That’s a tough job for anyone, regardless of experience level.

 

[wsummers]

Nightingale coached the U18s - who are all committed with the exception of Spicer - and even if his relationship extended to the U17s all but three of those players are already committed. Hiring a USNTDP coach due to his relationships with USNTDP players if a fools errand when 99% of the players are already committed and more than 50% of the program will turn over by the time he steps on campus

Here are the ones I was referring to as possible surprises…
https://twitter.com/nathaniel_bott/status/1521568748766957568?s=21&t=ATpr7Y15PSYJjrGGQldVMQ

 

[purpleinnebraska]

His U-18s were below .500 this year in the USHL.

I’m sure he’s a good guy, but it doesn’t even seem like he’s one of the better coaches at his current level.

There’s nothing else to do but hope for the best now. MSU, at this point, is a four-year rebuild. That’s a tough job for anyone, regardless of experience level.

They're also playing against a lot of 20 year-olds, and have a roster that rotates in and out with other commitments. Winning is somewhat unlikely for that team. Development is what matters.

 

[Paul Goddard]

Everyone keeps bleating on and on about the NTDP players. That's not where you're going to rebuild this program. Southern Ontario and BC are where they need to reestablish Michigan State as a place to go. A couple three kids from the U-18s are a nice bonus but you're never going to get dominant numbers from there.

That being said, Adam has transformed the personality of the U-18s to finally inject a little grit. They're not the cake eater contact averse players of the recent past. It's a much more North American style ready player coming out, and that can only help. Let's hope he can do the same at the college level.

I agree but it's going to be a lot more difficult to get those Ontario/BCHL players then it was in the past! Even more so to sell them on giving up Major Juniors to go to an NCAA program (MSU) that hasn't been relevant in well over a decade!

 

[John J. MacInnes]

I agree but it's going to be a lot more difficult to get those Ontario/BCHL players then it was in the past! Even more so to sell them on giving up Major Juniors to go to an NCAA program (MSU) that hasn't been relevant in well over a decade!

So don't even bother?

Brian Maloney has been the head coach at Chilliwack for 4 years and on the staff for 6, and he's still trying to figure out why no one from MSU has called him. Time to get those kind of relationships rebuilt.

 

[J.D.]

Just curious, was Damon Whitten a candidate? Wouldn't his resume be a bit more appealing than going back to the NTDP? Sure he hasn't had off the charts success but they did win the WCHA tournament last year and made the NCAAs.

 

[Paul Goddard]

Just curious, was Damon Whitten a candidate? Wouldn't his resume be a bit more appealing than going back to the NTDP? Sure he hasn't had off the charts success but they did win the WCHA tournament last year and made the NCAAs.

Whitten's name was mentioned. I'm wondering if any candidates withdrew their interest after realizing what herculean task lays ahead of them (And wont be as well compensated as one would think) in regards to this rebuild. Damon Whitten better off staying in The Soo. :/

 

[gomsuman]

Looks like Cornell goalie Nate McDonalad will no longer be transfering to MSU this fall. He said in a tweet, "Due to the recent developments with regards to Michigan State’s hockey program, I am reopening my recruitment. It is unfortunate the way the situation was handled, but I look forward to the future and to new opportunities."

 

[FLHockeyMom]

Looks like Cornell goalie Nate McDonalad will no longer be transfering to MSU this fall. He said in a tweet, "Due to the recent developments with regards to Michigan State’s hockey program, I am reopening my recruitment. It is unfortunate the way the situation was handled, but I look forward to the future and to new opportunities."

Interesting and thanks for the development. I wonder if Nightingale will bring in Luca diPasquo who was ranked 15th for North American goalies in the final NHL Central Scouting list.

 

[wsummers]

Interesting and thanks for the development. I wonder if Nightingale will bring in Luca diPasquo who was ranked 15th for North American goalies in the final NHL Central Scouting list.

Looks like it will be Dylan St Cyr for next year replacing MacDonald. he has 1 covid year after 3 at Notre Dame and 1 at Q

 

[Puckstopper467]

Luca is no way ready for college hockey. needs 1-2 more years of junior hockey!!

 

[FLHockeyMom]

Luca is no way ready for college hockey. needs 1-2 more years of junior hockey!!

Well whatever the circumstances, and I'm admittedly no evaluator of goalies, that's a nice first upgrade by Nightingale IMO. Going from a guy who's hardly backstopped an NCAA game to an experienced, albeit undersized, goalie will only improve the position. Though Charleson's probably not happy with the competition....

 

[wsummers]

St Cyr is now official along with Underwood.

https://msuspartans.com/news/2022/5/...r-2022-23.aspx

 

[wsummers]

Well, the K twins are back for a 5th year. D and G are now set. We’ll see if there are any changes with the forwards.

All of the Spartans in the portal have now found new (or the same) homes for next year at Northern, UMass, North Dakota, and Long Island.

Nights is getting 470K and 5 year contract.