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Merrimack College 2010-2011: taking H.E. one chair-back seat at a time

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Acting like the BU's and BC's are sooo good at recruiting is absurd. All they have to do is put their name on stationery and send it to a kid.

This is a joke, right?
 
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Let's take the BU discussion to the BU thread, thanks.

come on salvo, look at all the hits your team's thread gets now that they are good.:eek: people chiming in on it with regularity sometimes leads to off topic discussions that quickly change back to the thread topic. you need to lighten up a little........:)
 
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come on salvo, look at all the hits your team's thread gets now that they are good.:eek: people chiming in on it with regularity sometimes leads to off topic discussions that quickly change back to the thread topic. you need to lighten up a little........:)

haha ur right.

As far as the comment above about BC and BU not knowing how to recruit...that's a little ridiculous. There are plenty other prime D1 schools out there, NoDak, Wisconsin, so on and so forth. You act as if all of the NHL's talent come out of the two teams with Boston in their name and that it would be unfathomable to want to play elsewhere if one of those schools were courting you.

Some of these kids, including the ones with NHL talent, have some idea of what type of education they want. The big difference between collegiate athletes and pro athletes is probably the fact that they're just that...COLLEGIATE athletes. There's more to team selection than the team...it's where they'll be spending the next four (or less lol) years of their lives [hopefully] learning stuff that doesn't revolve around pucks, skates, and checking.
 
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Sure the BU/BC staff's know how to recruit. But they recruit in a pretty small pond. That pond being the top teenage talent in the country or Canada that doesn't want to go MJ. To get a top talent to come to a NU, MC, St. Lawrence, Bemidji State, etc takes a heck of lot more convincing than it does to the BU/BC/UND's of the world.
 
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Given that frosh like Ellis and Heywood both have NHL scouts watching, in addition to DaCosta, Cannata, Stollery, Barton, Bigos, Todd and Ross, I find it hard to believe thier success is coming from "two players". That's not a fluke. Those are players from four separate classes. Whether it's a fan of one particular team or it upsets someone's idea of Hockey East equillibrium it seems much like sour grapes.

Acting like the BU's and BC's are sooo good at recruiting is absurd. All they have to do is put their name on stationery and send it to a kid. The MC's, NU's, PC's, UML's have to forecast where a player might be potentially in 3-4 years and take a chance.

Warsofsky is good but I really don't see him that much better than Stollery. He certainly can't skate as well although we could say that about most D-men in college hockey. Maybe Warsofsky will be the next Don Sweeney for the B's but I'd think he'd need time in the A. I certainly wouldn't expect a Shattenkirk rookie year from him.

The scouts are there to watch Dacosta, Bigos by Edmonton(if they are around) and Vancouver etc for Cannata. Why would you think NHL guys would be there to watch 22 year old freshmen?
Be nice if it happened but you are maybe exagerating if you think NHL guys are there for any reason outside Dacsota. If they are playing BU, they will be there to see Clendening, Gill as well
 
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The scouts are there to watch Dacosta, Bigos by Edmonton(if they are around) and Vancouver etc for Cannata. Why would you think NHL guys would be there to watch 22 year old freshmen?
Be nice if it happened but you are maybe exagerating if you think NHL guys are there for any reason outside Dacsota. If they are playing BU, they will be there to see Clendening, Gill as well

I forgot. No older freshmen have ever gotten looks from NHL teams. Gilroy, Lessard never won the Hobey Baker. Lessard won the Hobey as an almost 24 year old before going on to play for several years in the AHL and NHL. Gilroy won the Hobey as an almost 25 year old and is now playing in the NHL. Chris Kunitz was a Hobey Hat Trick Finalist and made it to be an NHL regular as a 23 year-old senior out of Ferris State. Merrimack had a 21 year old freshman forward in 1998-99 that would turn pro and play several years for the Nashville Predators and their AHL affiliate. Matt Jones and Joe Loprieno left Merrimack for the pro ranks just in the last few years with even less talent than Heywood, Ellis, Todd. And guess what, they were 20 or 21 year old freshman.

Want to keep looking like a moron?

You've made it perfectly clear you don't like older freshman. Of course the NHL scouts are at the games to see Da Costa, Cannata and Bigos most. However, to say they do not look at anyone else is absurd.
 
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Dustin Penner (Maine), Darrel Scoville (Merrimack), Steve McKenna (Merrimack), Alfie Michaud (Maine), Derek Bekar (UNH), Jayme Filipowicz (UNH), Brad Theissen (NU), Marc Robitaille (NU), Jake Newton (NU), Teddy Purcell (Maine), Trevor Smith (UNH), Andrew Sweetland (Maine) were all 20-21 year old freshman who were undrafted and turned pro early in the last 15 years. I'm sure I'm missing some more, but I just wanted to prove what a fool you are with your wild statements that you think are true.

Back in 1998, there was this 22 year old freshman goaltender for UNH who is still playing in the NHL.

There was another 20 year old freshman, Jason Krog, who went undrafted, won the Hobey Baker, and played in the NHL.
 
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The scouts are there to watch Dacosta, Bigos by Edmonton(if they are around) and Vancouver etc for Cannata. Why would you think NHL guys would be there to watch 22 year old freshmen?
Be nice if it happened but you are maybe exagerating if you think NHL guys are there for any reason outside Dacsota. If they are playing BU, they will be there to see Clendening, Gill as well
Some scouts may be there to see Da Costa/Cannata/Bigos, but Stollery is getting a ton of attention lately...also, VAN has an eye on Ellis and EDM on Todd...
 
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The scouts are there to watch Dacosta, Bigos by Edmonton(if they are around) and Vancouver etc for Cannata. Why would you think NHL guys would be there to watch 22 year old freshmen?
Be nice if it happened but you are maybe exagerating if you think NHL guys are there for any reason outside Dacsota. If they are playing BU, they will be there to see Clendening, Gill as well

Here is how I know. I've been at two games in different arenas where by chance I was sitting RIGHT NEXT TO scouts from NHL teams and spoke to them during the game. Sorry to burst your exaggeration bubble.

By the way, they all aren't 22 year old freshmen. I don't think NHL teams care where contributing players come from or at what age they are as long as they see a possibility they could help their organization.
 
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Here is how I know. I've been at two games in different arenas where by chance I was sitting RIGHT NEXT TO scouts from NHL teams and spoke to them during the game. Sorry to burst your exaggeration bubble.

By the way, they all aren't 22 year old freshmen. I don't think NHL teams care where contributing players come from or at what age they are as long as they see a possibility they could help their organization.

Hopefully....

the more kids from Hockey East in pros the better.
 
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Hopefully....

the more kids from Hockey East in pros the better.

No response to my commentary, huh? I guess it doesn't feel good to be wrong so often. It sure does feel bad to be contradicted. Those three negative reps you've sent me are priceless. I feel very sorry for you. Three very childish insults.
 
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As I said before, it really doesn't matter if Warsofsky is the best dman on either team, Merrimack's group of defense is better than BU's current group. They just are. I really don't care about what Clendening and Nicastro might develop into, that's not the discussion.

Dennehy has a good thing going. Going on a year to year basis, obviously there could be a year where MC finishes in 10th. That being said, as long as he's there, I think the days of MC being a pushover are certainly over. Couldn't say that about Serino ;) It's best to evaluate MC on a year to year basis. Right now, they are having a great year and have a very good team.
 
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Unfortunately, Maine and MC have both played 14 games according to hockeyeastonline...we have 2 games in hand over BC, but they are 5 points ahead of us.

Yup... I think when I was writing I was looking at the wrong numbers. Before the BU game, we had a game in hand on Maine. We played it and won it.

Still one game in hand over BU, though, and one point behind them.

Only one game for MC this weekend, and one for Maine, but BU plays a pair against the league iron, BC and UNH. An MC win and two BU losses (not impossible) and we jump over them by one point with two games in hand. BC I think is unreachable, so any points that the Eagles take away from other teams contending for home ice is good for the Warriors.
 
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As I said before, it really doesn't matter if Warsofsky is the best dman on either team, Merrimack's group of defense is better than BU's current group. They just are. I really don't care about what Clendening and Nicastro might develop into, that's not the discussion.

Dennehy has a good thing going. Going on a year to year basis, obviously there could be a year where MC finishes in 10th. That being said, as long as he's there, I think the days of MC being a pushover are certainly over. Couldn't say that about Serino ;) It's best to evaluate MC on a year to year basis. Right now, they are having a great year and have a very good team.

All 3 you mentioned from BU will play more pro hockey then any of the d FROM MC, in my opinion. Nicastro is going to be a very good pro, Clendening will as well. I would like to see them as 22 year old freshmen...... They will be graduated by 22. Not hangning out in the dorms for 4 more years.

All 3 were better Tuesday night as well.
 
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All 3 you mentioned from BU will play more pro hockey then any of the d FROM MC, in my opinion. Nicastro is going to be a very good pro, Clendening will as well. I would like to see them as 22 year old freshmen...... They will be graduated by 22. Not hangning out in the dorms for 4 more years.

All 3 were better Tuesday night as well.

HokyDopy strikes again. They might be better professional players. We're talking college hockey here. We're not talking who is going to make the best NHL player. We're talking about who gives their team the best chance to win now. I'd take Merrimack's defensive core over BU's. It is that simple. I can see that BU has more pro prospects than Merrimack. Do I care? Not one bit, because the Warriors took the season series and have a game in hand on BU.

That being said, I think Bigos, Stollery, Ellis and Heywood will all at least play one game in the AHL, which means scouts are giving them a look. Ross is too slow, but he's adequate. Allan has had too many injuries, but is decent for a 5th/6th d-man. McCarthy is only a freshman, but also I think is good for 6th/7th d-man.
 
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All 3 you mentioned from BU will play more pro hockey then any of the d FROM MC, in my opinion. Nicastro is going to be a very good pro, Clendening will as well.

What does any of this have to do with Merrimack having a better defense than BU this year?
 
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What does any of this have to do with Merrimack having a better defense than BU this year?

Nothing, unless you couple the fact that 2 out of the 3 are better than any D at MC and the other real close and has flashed much higher.

I am not disputing your opinion, just giving mine.

It is also my opinion, based on mnore than just an opinion, that the scouts that were there, Pitt, Montreal etc took notes on one player, Dacosta. Period. they are not there looking for 5/6th D for their AHL team. I hope that it works out for all but dont see it.
 
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Nothing, unless you couple the fact that 2 out of the 3 are better than any D at MC and the other real close and has flashed much higher.

I am not disputing your opinion, just giving mine.

It is also my opinion, based on mnore than just an opinion, that the scouts that were there, Pitt, Montreal etc took notes on one player, Dacosta. Period. they are not there looking for 5/6th D for their AHL team. I hope that it works out for all but dont see it.

How do you suppose the AHL teams pick up those 5th/6th d-men? Do they just decide to pick names out of hats? You are so foolish. They scout every player that might help their system. Some players will never make it to the AHL, but they might get a look and thus, the scouts at least take note. It is the same in baseball. Scouts give kids looks who will most likely never make it past single A.
 
Re: Merrimack College 2010-2011: taking H.E. one chair-back seat at a time

Nothing, unless you couple the fact that 2 out of the 3 are better than any D at MC and the other real close and has flashed much higher.

I am not disputing your opinion, just giving mine.

It is also my opinion, based on mnore than just an opinion, that the scouts that were there, Pitt, Montreal etc took notes on one player, Dacosta. Period. they are not there looking for 5/6th D for their AHL team. I hope that it works out for all but dont see it.

Merrimack does not have as many high end defensive prospects as BU. You are right, but for this level, I'd take Merrimack's defense over BU's. Same for as good as Da Costa is, I'd take Coyle over him at the next level. I'd rather have Da Costa for my college team.
 
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HokyDopy strikes again. They might be better professional players. We're talking college hockey here. We're not talking who is going to make the best NHL player.

Christ, I must be seeing things because I thought there was a rather large argument on this thread concerning which players the NHL scouts were looking at when attending Merrimack games, whether scouts are looking at 22 year old freshmen, and huge lists of every possible example of older college players that made the NHL from some yahoo Merrimack fan that was frothing at the mouth.

I must be in some variation of the space time continuum.
 
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