Merrimack College 2010-2011: taking H.E. one chair-back seat at a time

[Salvo1017]

First off, take your BC vs UNH quarrel elsewhere.

Second off, enough talk about post season, we're not there yet. Let's talk about how we just killed Maine and have a shot at another great season accomplishment tomorrow.

Once again the people talkin about Merrimack in the post season the most is opponent fans going on about how that's all we merrimak fans seem to do.

Quite frankly I think we all have a strong here and now and are enjoying this long sought after moment.

 

[mwade]

Re: Merrimack College 2010-2011: taking H.E. one chair-back seat at a time

Game vs. BU postponed until Jan. 18.

 

[Parker Ranger]

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See You Next Tuesday ... the 18th

 

[WarriorDJ]

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Dude, you to to FRIGGIN' MERRIMACK.

How many Baseball Hall of Famers has BC produced? Friggin' Merrimack will spot you one...

 

[Federal League]

Re: Merrimack College 2010-2011: taking H.E. one chair-back seat at a time

How many Baseball Hall of Famers has BC produced? Friggin' Merrimack will spot you one...

Charlie Day also went to Merrimack. Him and Yaz give Friggin' Merrimack the easy win.

 

[dmjossel]

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Raise a banner!

Good grief. I'm deliberately pointing out that I am looking only at each game, have no championship pretensions for this team, and are claiming nothing other than that they are "pretty good" and may have a chance at home ice, and you're putting words in my mouth-- that winning a series and one game are worth a banner.

I suggested no such thing, nor has anyone else. Please speak for yourself and I'll speak for myself.

(although you also seem to be interested in getting upset when someone points out that Merrimack hasn't beaten anyone on the road worth a ****).

No, I seem to be interested in pointing out that it doesn't affect the team's goals this season whether or not they beat anybody "worth a ****" in your estimation or anyone else's. They've beaten who they have been able to schedule outside the league. They've lost close games on the road to the #1 and #2 teams in the conference. Again, there's been no response as to why it counts against Merrimack somehow that they were unable to win against those teams on the road, but it doesn't count against BC, BU and Maine that they were unable to beat Merrimack at home.

From the perspective of BC, BU and Maine, aren't those "games against top half teams on the road"?

Yale has beaten no one of any consequence whatsoever and they're #1 in every computerized ranking and every poll of consequence. It must upset you so very much that this statistic that you and Carmine hold so dear seems to matter so very little.

And another one! Your buddy GoUNH is an expert on raising these things in January, if you want some help, just go ahead and ask him.

Right... because claiming that winning games is better than losing them-- no matter who you play-- is tantamount to having delusions of grandeur. No Merrimack fan is talking about banners of any kind at this stage. It's unwarranted. We are enjoying a team that is improving, performing well, and providing entertaining hockey games to watch.

Surely your team is doing as much-- is that not enough for you that it is necessary to attempt to belittle others enjoying their teams performance because it doesn't rise to your standards? Does it sting fans of other programs so much to have one season in ten in which Merrimack is not a doormat-- a school with an enrollment of only two thousand, half the size of the next smallest school, and a history of a mere sixty years, most of it playing at the division 2 level-- that it is necessary to project upon its fans the presumptuous arrogance more usually associated with fans of the Boston schools, and then to criticize this imagined arrogance as being unjustified by the results halfway through the season?

That's ridiculous.

 

[dmjossel]

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Dude, you to to FRIGGIN' MERRIMACK.

Our graduates can at least spell the word "go"; at least, on most days they can.

You have miles to go before you can even be on the same level as UMass or UMass-Lowell let alone BC or BU, so check yourself.

How do you figure?

Merrimack has been to the Garden once and lost in the semis.

Amherst has been to the Garden three times, and to the finals once.

That puts Amherst 2 semifinal appearances and one finals appearance ahead of MC in Hockey East play. That's miles? I don't see any banners for either team in there.

In the NCAAs, Amherst has participated once and made it through one round. Merrimack has participated once, and made it through one round. That looks even to me, with a footnote to the effect that MC's appearance was a long time ago, 1988, while Amherst's was much more recent (2007).

Still, one more apperance hardly seems to justify that Merrimack has "miles" to go.

Lowell and Merrimack's histories in Division 2 closely mirrored each other, with Lowell making the jump to Hockey East a few seasons earlier. Since then, they haven't won any more Hockey East championships than Merrimack has. They do have three NCAA appearances to Merrimack's one in the period from 1984 onwards, but UML's last such appearances was fifteen years ago, so I'm not really sure how relevant that is to anything.

Merrimack has yet to have a season at .500 or above since joining the league. Their last .500 season or better was the years they played as an Independent.

Amherst has four seasons at .500 or above since joining hockey east-- five if you count their Independent year before that.

Lowell has nine seasons at .500 or above-- but they also joined Hockey East five years before Merrimack. So you can certainly say they have been more consistently good than Merrimack has, and for longer. However, since all the critics in this thread seem to care about are banners and road wins against top teams I guess we have to call this a wash, since Lowell doesn't have a lot of those, either.

Look at all three teams history pages here on USCHO. There's not miles between them-- just a few good seasons. Certainly between MC and Amherst, and arguably between MC and Lowell. MC is having a pretty good season so far this year, and Lowell and Amherst, for the most part, are not.

As for BC, BU and Maine-- this year MC has only lost one game out of five against those three teams combined. That's not miles. Luckily for us, the officials don't handicap the teams based on past performance, so when the puck drops the score is 0-0. The "top four" don't get to carry forward their goals from past seasons.

Trust me, in the postseason, any of the top 4 will make mincemeat out of your team.

At the moment, I think you'd have to say top three or top five. I honestly don't see any way for Merrimack to make mincemeat of themselves.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Again, there's been no response as to why it counts against Merrimack somehow that they were unable to win against those teams on the road, but it doesn't count against BC, BU and Maine that they were unable to beat Merrimack at home.

From the perspective of BC, BU and Maine, aren't those "games against top half teams on the road"?

Yale has beaten no one of any consequence whatsoever and they're #1 in every computerized ranking and every poll of consequence. It must upset you so very much that this statistic that you and Carmine hold so dear seems to matter so very little.

Surely your team is doing as much-- is that not enough for you that it is necessary to attempt to belittle others enjoying their teams performance because it doesn't rise to your standards? Does it sting fans of other programs so much to have one season in ten in which Merrimack is not a doormat-- a school with an enrollment of only two thousand, half the size of the next smallest school, and a history of a mere sixty years, most of it playing at the division 2 level-- that it is necessary to project upon its fans the presumptuous arrogance more usually associated with fans of the Boston schools, and then to criticize this imagined arrogance as being unjustified by the results halfway through the season?

That's ridiculous.

My sweet Christ you are a buffoon. It's clear as day that you and your buddy Salivato can't keep your hands out of your pants when talking about how Merrimack beat BC twice or Maine or whoever else you get excited about beating. That's nice, it's a feather in the cap but it won't win you anything in March. That's the point. So sure, you didn't say this literally, I can't quote you... but... it's pretty obvious you're acting like this is some accomplishment that historians should write a book about (you didn't say that either so don't claim I'm putting words in your mouth).

Now... you seem to have trouble understanding certain things which have been said apparently. The contention is that Merrimack has no quality road wins. If you consider the bottom half of the RPI as quality teams, you have problems. Otherwise, you'd agree this is true. So yes, that "counts against" Merrimack. I don't see how you can be confused about this. BC does have quality road wins. The fact that BC lost on the road to Merrimack (twice) is not relevant to the original point as that doesn't erase the fact that they swept Denver in Colorado and bludgeoned BU at Egganus Arena as well. I don't know what BU or Maine has done on the road and I don't really care that much. Obviously, it's tough to find a real bad knock on a team like BC, which has a nice RPI, decent SOS, quality road wins, etc. That's all. Read. Stop. Think. Reread. Think. Post. Good reminder for all of us, myself included.

And I think most of us outside of the Nutmeg State would agree that Yale is suspect with their schedule. No one is arguing that except the Yale fans. And yes they deserve to be questioned and we will not know until they beat some good teams. Similar to the road win situation with Merrimack. Hasn't happened yet but it could. So it's reasonable to raise concerns about the two teams until they can show us something.

You're not in Div2 anymore. You're with the big boys... your enrollment doesn't matter. The NCAA isn't handicapping the NCAA tournament to help small schools get in. You're going to be scrutinized like everyone else. Embrace that.

I think Merrimack is a good team. I want to see a little more... like a good road win or further down the road maybe a good neutral site win (Garden?). That's all.

Bottom line, do what you want, I am not going to tell you how to act as a fan. But of course people are going to laugh at you when you act like this. If you're going to put your hand in your pants all over this board, at least wait until the postseason rolls around. Look forward and be excited, looking back on a RS win is so freakin UNH it's sad. And we can all agree it's hilarious to laugh at how UNH fans act about RS wins, especially when their teams drops a nugget in their pants in the postseason. Have higher standards for yourself.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Merrimack is one of four teams in the top twenty to have have only 4 losses or less

Merrimack has the worst SOS (33rd) in the RPI top 20.

 

[WarriorDJ]

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With the latest round of storms, do you think the team will make it to Nashville for the games Fri/Sat?

They are scheduled to fly out tomorrow, but the question isn't if they can get to the airport, but will their flight be delayed/canceled.

In the midst of the storm Logan remains open, but with a lot of air traffic grounded. The hope is that as the storm tails off this evening, they can clean up the runways and get the big bird to take off.

We remain optimistic!

 

[Slasher7]

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How do you figure?

Merrimack has been to the Garden once and lost in the semis.

Amherst has been to the Garden three times, and to the finals once.

That puts Amherst 2 semifinal appearances and one finals appearance ahead of MC in Hockey East play. That's miles? I don't see any banners for either team in there.

In the NCAAs, Amherst has participated once and made it through one round. Merrimack has participated once, and made it through one round. That looks even to me, with a footnote to the effect that MC's appearance was a long time ago, 1988, while Amherst's was much more recent (2007).

Still, one more apperance hardly seems to justify that Merrimack has "miles" to go.

Lowell and Merrimack's histories in Division 2 closely mirrored each other, with Lowell making the jump to Hockey East a few seasons earlier. Since then, they haven't won any more Hockey East championships than Merrimack has. They do have three NCAA appearances to Merrimack's one in the period from 1984 onwards, but UML's last such appearances was fifteen years ago, so I'm not really sure how relevant that is to anything.

Merrimack has yet to have a season at .500 or above since joining the league. Their last .500 season or better was the years they played as an Independent.

Amherst has four seasons at .500 or above since joining hockey east-- five if you count their Independent year before that.

Lowell has nine seasons at .500 or above-- but they also joined Hockey East five years before Merrimack. So you can certainly say they have been more consistently good than Merrimack has, and for longer. However, since all the critics in this thread seem to care about are banners and road wins against top teams I guess we have to call this a wash, since Lowell doesn't have a lot of those, either.

Look at all three teams history pages here on USCHO. There's not miles between them-- just a few good seasons. Certainly between MC and Amherst, and arguably between MC and Lowell. MC is having a pretty good season so far this year, and Lowell and Amherst, for the most part, are not.

As for BC, BU and Maine-- this year MC has only lost one game out of five against those three teams combined. That's not miles. Luckily for us, the officials don't handicap the teams based on past performance, so when the puck drops the score is 0-0. The "top four" don't get to carry forward their goals from past seasons.




At the moment, I think you'd have to say top three or top five. I honestly don't see any way for Merrimack to make mincemeat of themselves.

MC's greatest moment in D1 is making it to the Hockey East semis in 1998. Enough said. Get back to the kiddie table. MC has done nothing to earn my respect. As much as Lowell and UMass are equally laughable, at least they've made it to at least one Hockey East final.

 

[Federal League]

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MC's greatest moment in D1 is making it to the Hockey East semis in 1998. Enough said. Get back to the kiddie table. MC has done nothing to earn my respect. As much as Lowell and UMass are equally laughable, at least they've made it to at least one Hockey East final.

I'd say beating Northeastern in a total goals series in 1988 to reach the NCAA quarterfinals was bigger. They also won the first game against eventual national champion LSSU in the quarters before getting smoked in the second game and losing on total goals. Lowell has made it that far twice (1994 and 1996), but UMass has never gone that far.

 

[Salvo1017]

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lol once again I hear more post season talk from the likes of opponent fans than from Merrimack fans.

neither DJ nor I have hands down our pants...although on a snowy day like today...what else is there to do?

Seriously though, I think Merrimack fans are very cautious people, we have seen the administration promise things in the past and fail to deliver, we have seen glimmers of hope out of this team in the past and fail to be consistent. I think the likes of Dick Santagati has kept us very well grounded mentally. If you don't know who he is or the rest of the history of Merrimack than maybe you shouldn't be posting here and lecturing us on how to root for our own team.

If we want to gloat on here about beating what was supposed to be one of the "best teams" of college hockey ever 2 games out of 3...let us, what is it to you?

If it bothers you that much maybe you should have told Yorky to play harder against us and beat us more than once.

lol Ive stopped letting other fans not giving us credit/respect because it simply doesn't matter. This stuff gets settled ultimately on the ice, where so far BC has failed to show ME and fellow Merrimack fans that they deserve to be considered the better team.

Perhaps Dennehy can use a bellichik-like approach, "these are all the people that don't believe in you, now go show them why they're mistaken."

So far, I think we've done a **** good job of that this year, keep it up warriors.

 

[sterlippo1]

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like "where so far New England has failed to show Cleveland Browns fans that they deserve to be considered a better team"? because the Browns went 1-0 against said Patriots? isnt that the same argument? i think you need to look at the whole body of work here, not one game or a season series..............i dont think you have a good team, i think you have a VERY good team but just because you went 2-1 vs someone isn't the end all you portray it to be.........BU and UVM both went 2-1 vs BC last year in league play, BTW

 

[irishfan85]

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like "where so far New England has failed to show Cleveland Browns fans that they deserve to be considered a better team"? because the Browns went 1-0 against said Patriots? isnt that the same argument? i think you need to look at the whole body of work here, not one game or a season series..............i dont think you have a good team, i think you have a VERY good team but just because you went 2-1 vs someone isn't the end all you portray it to be.........BU and UVM both went 2-1 vs BC last year in league play, BTW

I would agree totally. As a long time Merrimack fan, the Warriors have a very good team this year. The best team since 88. They had some potent offenses from 96-98 with Stringer, Porter, Kesselring, Laroche, Pyliotis, Cohen, Beck, Krauss, Scoville, Jakopin, etc. However, they didn't have the depth or skating ability this team had and certainly no where near as good of a defense.

BC is one of my least favorite sports programs in the country with Ohio State. However, even I will acknowledge Jerry York has the best hockey program in the country right now. They have been the best hockey program in the country for about 12 years now ever since the run of Frozen Fours with Gionta, Mottau, etc.

What I am hoping for, as a Merrimack fan, is that the Warriors get home ice and advance to the Garden and avoid a possible meeting with BC until the finals. As good as UNH is this year, they do not scare me like BC does. The Eagles have proven for way too long they are the best when it comes to March and April.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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where so far BC has failed to show ME and fellow Merrimack fans that they deserve to be considered the better team.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. You need to take your hand out of your pants watch some more hockey then. BTW, which other Merrimack fans are you speaking for here?

What I am hoping for, as a Merrimack fan, is that the Warriors get home ice and advance to the Garden and avoid a possible meeting with BC until the finals. As good as UNH is this year, they do not scare me like BC does.

Does UNH scare anyone when it comes to the postseason?

ps - I really liked that Cohen-Porter-Stringer combo back in the day. Those boys had talent!

 

[Salvo1017]

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Browns saw the patriots once, Merrimack saw BC 3 times. Had a chance to win in all three games, and won two of them...definitely a different scenario.

I too agree that BC is one of the best clubs in the country, scary on paper and executes well. We have shown we can play with them, that's something that I take pride in...consider it a compliment.

 

[13renclan]

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Charlie Day also went to Merrimack. Him and Yaz give Friggin' Merrimack the easy win.

Just want to make sure, we all know Yaz didn't actually play baseball at Merrimack. He just finished his business degree. There are no bright spots in Merrimack Athletics' past on any distinguishing level.

 

[GoUNH]

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From what I see here, the Merrimack fans are talking about the today and now. Today and now, Merrimack owns BC.

 

[WarriorDJ]

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Just want to make sure, we all know Yaz didn't actually play baseball at Merrimack. He just finished his business degree. There are no bright spots in Merrimack Athletics' past on any distinguishing level.

Well, Yaz may not have played baseball at Merrimack, but Charlie Day did...